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California Governor announces end of high speed rail project

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Shaul, Feb 12, 2019.

  1. Shaul

    Shaul Well-Known Member

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    California Governor Newsom announced that the high speed rail project will be ended. Only the section in the Central Valley will be done. (The least needed part and only so they don’t have to repay Federal funds received.)
    Gov. Newsom: High Speed Rail to go only from Merced to Bakersfield

    Billions over budget and many times more costly than promised. Instead of a “green” transportation system promised by [Democrat] politicians the voters will get massive debt, boondoggle and money given to cronies.

    “Thank you, Jerry Brown”
     
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    It's a damn shame that the U.S. is seemingly incapable of establishing an effective and efficient high speed rail system like European and Asian countries can.
     
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    Why is it so difficult to build a train track between 2 of the richest cities in the world?
     
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    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    No money left over for the pork barrel.
     
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    It's also to try to help cut down on some of the pollution here. Pollution in the Central Valley is pretty bad, and it was mentioned at a recent conference as a possible means of helping to reduce the pollution, and thus the amount of smog and acid rain. That and the Central Valley is almost twice the length of Indiana, so it'll be nice to have such an option for getting from one end to the other.
     
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    If it's anything like the situation in Australia, which periodically geeks out over HSR, suitable land for the necessary trackwork may not be available, if the projected corridor is already heavily built up, difficult terrain, or both.
     
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    The project should have been developed in Washington-Boston corridor. The corridor is the comparable in population density to major European and Asian hubs. It is multi-state thus funding is not hindered by issues as per those of Cali. There are existing rail systems so retooling over new construction cuts costs. This is more applicable to the infrastructure than the actual the rails. There is an existing customer base using the current system which is easy to convert to high-speed customers.
     
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    Look at who’s in charge.
     
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    The high speed rail will not travel the entire length of the Central Valley.
     
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    There is a Boston-Washington high speed rail project well underway. The Amtrak Acela exists and will evolve into a true high speed rail.
     
  12. Augustus

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    I think they are planning to build it from Merced to Bakersfield.

    Much as I think trains are a great method of transport, a high speed link between 2 minor cities seems like a colossal waste of money.
     
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    Good to know what I suggested is already in the works. Toss in new lines could be developed later linking the corridor lines with a Chicago route
     
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    High speed rail would work out here in the west where there is a lot of open spaces. The only problem is we do not have the population to support it.
    Putting a high speed rail system, in a high population density area, or where there large amounts of farm land , that doesn't utilize an existing rail corridor would cause a major issue.
     
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    Unfortunately the Acela tracks are in no shape to support a true “bullet” train and there’s no funding to replace the tracks. Acela will be limited to its current 150 mph even though it will have trains that can go faster (if the tracks were right).

    EDIT: By contrast, Japan’s shinkansen bullet train travels at 200 mph.
     
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