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siti

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I was thinking - since we have diverged a little into the realms of the fragmentation of the Disunited Queendom, perhaps we should just dissolve the Union altogether and go back to four separate countries - each with its own monarch (none of this republican BS if you please) - if we alter the system to make them all female preference primogenitures they can all be Queendoms instead of Kingdoms so we can just call it 4Q instead of UK and since this is more or less a sequel what we had before the Kingdoms were "united" perhaps we should call it 4Q2 - that would have the bonus value of showing the rest of the world - and especially the bits that famously 'opted out' a couple of centuries or so back - what we really think of our relative statuses on the wider world scene!
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
I was thinking - since we have diverged a little into the realms of the fragmentation of the Disunited Queendom, perhaps we should just dissolve the Union altogether and go back to four separate countries - each with its own monarch (none of this republican BS if you please)

Eh. Monarchy is what led to the Union in the first place. Also, there's no reason to bestow so much wealth or unaccountable privilege on a person or their family - as opposed to having an elected head of state who can only stay in office for a set amount of time - so I can't see why a republic wouldn't be the way to go. In order to establish our own monarchy again we'd have to essentially... what's the word? Disinherit? Dethrone? We'd have to dethrone the current monarch as she's still technically our Queen (spits).

You're talking about ending the Union of the Crowns, not the Union of the Parliaments (which is what independence is all about).

Why do you think a monarchy would be better for an independent Scotland than a republic?


- if we alter the system to make them all female preference primogenitures they can all be Queendoms instead of Kingdoms so we can just call it 4Q instead of UK and since this is more or less a sequel what we had before the Kingdoms were "united" perhaps we should call it 4Q2 - that would have the bonus value of showing the rest of the world - and especially the bits that famously 'opted out' a couple of centuries or so back - what we really think of our relative statuses on the wider world scene!

I'm confused. How would that change anything?
 

siti

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Monarchy is what led to the Union in the first place. Also, there's no reason to bestow so much wealth or unaccountable privilege on a person or their family - as opposed to having an elected head of state who can only stay in office for a set amount of time - so I can't see why a republic wouldn't be the way to go.
That's been tried - you may have heard of the United States of America...'nuf said. I reckon if we have a republic it has to be socialist one - no monarchs and no rich b'stards.

I'm confused. How would that change anything?
We'd have the coolest name of any country in the world...but really it was just a joke - a bit like the conservative leadership contest - except I didn't expect anyone to take my joke seriously.
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
That's been tried - you may have heard of the United States of America...'nuf said. I reckon if we have a republic it has to be socialist one - no monarchs and no rich b'stards.

That's too vague to be an answer. If your justification for not doing a republic is that they don't work, why a monarchy? They work even worse than republics do and you can get rid of a President or, at the very least place restrictions upon their power and time in office. Those are principles the States got right.

I'd agree with a social democratic republic like the Nordic nations.


We'd have the coolest name of any country in the world...but really it was just a joke - a bit like the conservative leadership contest - except I didn't expect anyone to take my joke seriously.

In my defence I can only read these in the morning before work so I see them with a half-functioning brain.


Scotland has some blood-sucking midges.

Conservatives, UKIP, the Brexit Party and the far-right are truly blood-sucking parasites.
 

siti

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I'd agree with a social democratic republic like the Nordic nations.
Well yes, except that only 2 out of 5 of them are republics - the other 3 are (still) constitutional monarchies. Anyway, that apart, they certainly do all seem to have a rather better balance of social welfare, equitable wealth distribution, private ownership and "free" market economics than most of the rest of the world. I'd be OK with that - a republic run on social democratic principles. But the more urgent issue is to exit Europe as economically intact as possible - I don't see the next decade as being terribly good for the Disunited Queendom and if it fractures itself even further in the process, I'm afraid the "cure" might end up being worse than the "disease" - but maybe its just one of those cases where you have to break an already broken limb in order to set it. Its not looking good and its almost certainly going to be painful I think. But maybe what emerges will be a fairer, more compassionate and, above all, wiser system of government - ironically perhaps, a government more like some of the countries we are currently going through divorce proceedings with.
 
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