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Featured Buddha and Christ identical Beings

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by InvestigateTruth, Mar 17, 2019.

  1. Vinayaka

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    That makes no sense to me. All these vague sayings, my, my, where do you find them?
     
  2. Tony Bristow-Stagg

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    In all the worlds faiths and virtues, that weŕe given by God, great it is. :D;)

    With that quote I see in one way it suggests that we can always do better and at no time can we think we have got it right.

    Regards Tony
     
  3. Vinayaka

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    Really? We, again? And you got this from ... "The good deed of the righteous are the sins of the near ones."

    Wow. Seems some folks can extrapolate any meaning whatever from whatever.

    The oak seed is in the fish belly, well that actually means that Superman rode his horse to the moon.
     
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  4. Tony Bristow-Stagg

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    If it is for personal growth in virtue and for the good of all, then the purpose of the passage is acheived.

    Regards Tony
     
  5. Vinayaka

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    Vague simplistic meaningless sayings don't work for me, but if they work for you, fine.
     
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    Investigate Truth, your source even mentions it as being legend, not sutta.
    Secondly your logic is flawed. If Buddha actually did say,
    "I am chief of the world,
    Eldest am I in the world,
    Foremost am I in the world.
    This is the last birth.
    There is now no more coming to be."​
    Then there is no way that Buddha and Jesus could be the identical person, as Jesus was born some 500 to 600 years later, which would invalidate the claim of "This is the last birth."
     
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  7. Vinayaka

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    Maybe he spent 600 years in 'The Cave of the Ancients'
     
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    i will try to explain it again. Buddha is not a m.f.g. He was a wise old man who taught lessons for the living this life. He has nothing to do with Jesus or "divinity".

    In fact, he told his students NOT to follow him. He was interested in the mind and how to control it in order to live a peaceful compassionate, minialmist life without useless thoughts of unknowns. He was interested in how people live from within here and now. Not living to worship gods, heavens and some unknown future.

    The Baha'i religion is not a path Buddha would recommend or agree with from reading his lessons. They are incompatible in both practice and basic ideology.

    You can believe anything you want to but that does not make it true .
     
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    "This is the Last Birth", has a meaning, which is figurative. If it was literal, then no one else would be born after Buddha? Just because it is a symbolic expression, it does not mean it is false.. . And its meaning is as follows: the appearence of Buddha, or the Enlightened One (in the Person of Jesus, Buddha, or Krishna), Marks the beginning of a new Age, or cycle, and the end of the past cycle, or Age.
    Thus, He is the last One who is born in the previous cycle, that is: 'this is the last birth!'. Now, a new time, a new cycle starts. Previous cycle is expired! 'I am the beginning', meaning, with Me, a new beginning began!
    All of these expressions, are related to the 'power of renewal'. Everytime, a Buddha appears, through His knowledge and inspiration, He creates a new human, with new spirit and mind.
     
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    Kinda like these threads ... they spin on for awhile, then they slow, then fade, then cease .. but then, alas, ah ha! ... a new fake debate, and a new beginning ... the resemblance is remarkable, or is that just markable.
     
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    With regard to the topic, the other thread on whether or not Islamic and Christian theology can be reconciled, the vote is currently 27 No versus 10 yes. Given the widely recognised idea that Buddhism and Christianity are in two separate families of religion (dharmic. and Abrahamic) it would seem the vote on this would be substantially wider yet. Shucks darn.
     
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    Jesus and Buddha are both said to have been born of a pure virgin, honoured by heavenly beings at their birth, prayed to by Kings, and loaded with presents, ’ happy is the whole world sing the gods, under the form of young Brahmins at the birth of the child Buddha. And it is said over and over again in the Chinese books that Buddha was incarnate of the Holy Spirit, and born of a ‘pure virgin’. It is written also in the Lalita Vistara, ‘ the legendary biography of Buddha,’ dating from before the time of Christ, “For he is indeed born who brings salvation, and will establish the world in blessedness. He is born who will darken sun and moon by the splendor of his merits and will put all darkness to flight. The blind see, the deaf hear, the demented are restored to reason.” A. Drews, ‘The Christ Myth, P. 104.
     
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    No. Buddha was not born of a virgin at all. That is the silliest thing I have heard about Buddha in here yet.

    The narrative is that Buddha's mother, queen Mayadevi was unhappy because she was unable to conceive a child. The king, then invited brahmins and performed a fire oblation ritual for having a child with Mayadevi. After that their union had fruit and Mayadevi conceived.
     
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    And what denomination of the Buddhist religion do you belong to? Do you belong to the Chinese division, in whose books it is said over and over again, that Buddha was incarnate of the Holy Spirit, and born of a ‘pure virgin’.

    Maty, I don't really care one way or another as to the many, many and varied beliefs of the Buddhist religion, I merely quoted from the book, ‘The Christ Myth, P. 104. written by A Drews.
     
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    I'm a Mahayana Buddhist. Buddha's mother was Queen Maya, who died shortly after childbirth. Queen Maya was married to King Suddhodana for twenty years before she finally conceived, so she was not a virgin in any sense of the word.
     
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    Go and tell that to the Chinese Buddhists, in whose books it is said over and over again that Buddha was incarnate of the Holy Spirit, and born of a ‘pure virgin’. I have no interest in the Buddhist religion.
     
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    Jesus claimed to be the Almighty. Said things only God can say. Also the writers of the New Testament claim that Jesus was God in the flesh, created all things, and died for the sins of mankind.
    Buddha never made such claims. Case closed.
    Mostly all religions are going to be similar in some way when it comes to social issues: love, peace, don't kill, etc.. Only Christianity claims that a personal God who created the universe became human and died for the sins of mankind and was resurrected to life and now offers eternal life to all that believe in his name. Not even a comparison to Buddhism.
     
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    The Lord God our savior, said to Moses in Deuteronomy 18:18-19; " I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put MY WORDS in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him. I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to MY WORDS that the prophet speaks in my name.

    Jesus did not claim to be the Almighty, they were the words of the Lord as spoken through the mouth of his obedient servant, Jesus.
     
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    Jesus and Moses were totally different. Moses was a warmonger who called down evil on others. Jesus refused to do such. Luke 9:51-56
     
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    Yes. And the book has its information wrong. Apparently the authors confused chastity (not having extra-marital inclinations) with virginity.
     
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