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Boy Scouts to allow girls, raising ire of Girl Scouts

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Stevicus, Oct 12, 2017.

  1. Stevicus

    Stevicus Well-Known Member
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    Girl Scouts slam Boy Scouts' decision to accept girls

    I don't get it. I recall when there were girls trying to get into all-male military schools and other similar situations, but now that they're being accepted into the Boy Scouts, they're crying foul?

    Now they're talking about the benefit of a single-gender environment. Doesn't this contradict the idea that the genders are equal and that both genders can work side by side as equals? Should we go back to having all-male military schools now?
     
  2. Mister Silver

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    If the girls join the "Boy Scouts", what happens to "girl scout cookies"?
    And do they drop the gender labels to simply call themselves "Scouts"?
     
  3. DavidFirth

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    It is probably just that the Boys Scouts of America wish to avoid costly lawsuits for not accepting girls.
     
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  4. Brickjectivity

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    I think this is because the Boy Scouts is trying to change and to stay relevant. I have Life rank, and I think I am familiar enough to understand. Girl Scouts don't do much camping in the woods, but Boy Scouts do. The camping is important, and its why boys join. There is nothing like roughing it, and second to that there's nothing like having responsibility for the safety of others. There are also problems that stem from that. There are risks.
     
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    It's business not principle. They're upset because Boy Scouts is going to take membership away from them, and membership is money.

    That isn't a controversial point. Single sex environments are beneficial in development.
     
  6. Stevicus

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    Well, I suppose they could sell the cookies alongside the kettle corn that the Boy Scouts sell.

    I stopped buying the cookies after they discontinued the chocolate chip version.
     
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    The kettle corn sucks. I hope they just get rid of it and sell cookies. ;)
     
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  8. The Ragin Pagan

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    Because fixing up the Girl Scouts is apparently impossible...

    This is as stupid as much of the post-Harry Potter retcon throes to remain relevant without creating actual content.
     
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    There has been a decent amount of pressure on the Girl Scouts to adopt a more outdoors focused curriculum. That is one of the more common complaints I heard when I was in Boy Scouts, girls wanted to go camping, too. The Girl Scout organization is upset now because the Boy Scouts are going to start taking from their membership, which cuts into their profits. As @Mister Emu pointed out, this is a business problem for them.
     
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    I see it as more about them wanting to stop the decline in their membership without resorting to letting in LGBT scouts or atheists.
     
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    Oh, that'll probably be next. People want a taco at McDonald's, and rather than go to Taco Bell they force the Mc Taco into being.
     
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    Take both sides out to the desert and give them ball-pein hammers and let them settle it once and for all
     
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    I don't think so. The BSA is too closely allied with some pretty anti-gay churches to bend on the issue of LGBT scouts, I think. It would suffer a tremendous blow in terms of money and membership if it did the right thing on this issue.
     
  14. Stevicus

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    What about in public schools, higher education, or in the Service Academies?
     
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    I can understand your comment, but they have already changed policy to let in LGBT members. This acceptance of girls is a further change that fits well with that.

    www.cnn.com/2013/05/23/us/boy-scouts-sexual-orientation/index.html
     
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    Just an inferior organization scared of a much, much better competitor who's moving in on their market. :p The fears raised by the GSUSA are all nonsense, as an open-to-all-genders model has worked fine for Venture Crews without issue.
     
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    I guarantee that's it. Like Mister Silver said. Are they going to drop the label and just call it 'Scouts"?
     
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    Actually when it comes to churches there are alternative groups that mimic the boys scouts even buying the same uniforms and using different badges. For example there's a group called the Royal Rangers who look just like Boy Scouts but are exclusively Christian. So the churches are not loyal to Boy Scouts and do not control the organization. You can compare the two below:

    National Royal Rangers Boy Scouts of America | Prepared. For Life.®
     
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    Allowing girls into the boy scouts and boys into the girls scouts is a common sense decision that is too late already. Some girls want to do more outdoorsy activities like the Boy Scouts, and some boys want to do more home ec style things like the girl scouts offer. This is a completely reasonable decision. The Girl Scouts are mad because of competition, but they need to suck it up and include boys who want to join them. Or just combine the two, call it the boys and girl scouts of america and offer different learning experiences to both girls and boys.

    This old fashioned, unrealistic separation of sexes is just silly at this point. Guys behave and learn better when they are around girls. Just go to an all-boys high school and see how they behave. Girls keep boys in line.
     
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    At a certain age I did not want to have anything to do with icky girls.
     
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