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Black Mass in Oklahoma Today.

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Saint Frankenstein, Sep 21, 2014.

  1. Saint Frankenstein

    Saint Frankenstein On the funeral pyre of existence
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    Amid a flurry of controversy and confusion, the Oklahoma Civic Center Music Hall in Oklahoma City will be become the setting for a public Black Mass this Sunday, Sept. 21. The event, which is being billed as “enlightening and educational,” is reportedly now sold out. The purpose of the public staging, as written in the Civic Center’s blurb, is to bring a feared ritual “into the light.”

    Just as problems arose when a Harvard University Extension club attempted to sponsor a Black Mass, the Oklahoma event has inspired local protests that began immediately after the Civic Center listed the Black Mass on its schedule. However, in this story, the ensuing controversy took a few unexpected twists and turns that go well-beyond typical outrage from the city’s Catholic community.

    - See more at: The Oklahoma Black Mass: Controversy, Confusion and Religious Freedom | The Wild Hunt

    Apparently there's going to be a big protest:

    An organizer says he expects up to 600 people from as far away as Pennsylvania to attend a prayer rally expressing opposition to the “black mass” at downtown’s Civic Center Music Hall.

    A Satanist plans the event Sunday evening in CitySpace, a small theater in the Civic Center basement that holds fewer than 100 people. The event has been sold out for a couple of weeks.

    Oklahoma City Archbishop Paul Coakley has directed Catholics to conduct a “campaign of prayer” in response to the black mass. The city declined his request that officials ban the event.

    Brian McCall received a permit from the city for a procession through downtown and prayer rally outside the Civic Center on Sunday afternoon, preceding the black mass.
    The event is being led by the Society of St. Pius X in America.

    The organization says on its website that its U.S. District Superior, the Rev. Jurgen Wegner, has issued a “call to reparation” in response to the black mass.

    Plans are for a traditional Latin Mass at the downtown Sheraton Hotel at 11 a.m. Sunday, followed by a procession through downtown to the Civic Center, McCall said.
    An outdoor prayer rally is planned between 1 and 2 p.m. Participants then plan to return to the Sheraton, he said.

    McCall said the organization had received RSVPs from Kansas, Texas, Oklahoma, Illinois and Pennsylvania.

    Another group has a permit for a prayer rally between 5 and 7 p.m. outside the Civic Center.

    In addition, a man from Longdale, in northwestern Oklahoma, has a permit to pass out Christian CDs and literature on Sunday evening at the Civic Center.
    The black mass is to begin at 7 p.m. Sunday.

    Coakley plans to lead a church service and procession beginning at 3 p.m. Sunday at Saint Francis of Assisi Catholic Church, 1901 NW 18 St.

    Organizer expects more than 600 to rally against Oklahoma City 'black mass' | News OK

    My sympathies are with the Satanists. :D
     
  2. Thruve

    Thruve Sheppard for the Die Hard

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    What exactly is a black mass?
     
  3. Saint Frankenstein

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    A parody of the Catholic Mass that denounces God and Christ and praises Satan. It's mostly a joke that's done for theatrical purposes.
     
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    Thruve Sheppard for the Die Hard

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    And when people get shot or killed, or beaten half to death, I don't wana see a single news article about it because ill lawl out my squiggly scqooch.
     
  5. Saint Frankenstein

    Saint Frankenstein On the funeral pyre of existence
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    No one's going to get beaten or killed. :rolleyes: If anyone does get hurt, I guarantee that it'll be the fault of the fanatical Christians.
     
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    An excellent opportunity for religious people to demonstrate there position on freedom of religion for all.
     
  7. Saint Frankenstein

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    Indeed!
     
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    If I were a christianist strategy wonk I would be thrilled.
    How often is there an event that rallies the troops in Oklahoma?

    Think of the data they can collect, the donations, the commitments, the contacts. Think how well this will provide sermon material for years. SATAN IS ALIVE AND WELL IN OKLAHOMA! SAVE YOURSELF WHILE YOU CAN!

    Tom
     
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    Gjallarhorn N'yog-Sothep

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    Satan's the best friend the Church has ever had, and Satanists know it. They're so compassionate. :angel2:
     
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    I think the group has a right to hold the event. I also can't be a bit surprised that a group would be offended by an event designed with an obvious intent to mock that group and everything they hold as sacred (edit, add: that they identify with, hold in high esteem, or that they think is being mistreated.)
     
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    Praise Jesus it isn't a group of Muslims being so offended.
    Tom
     
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    Saint Frankenstein On the funeral pyre of existence
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    Yeah, imagine the fallout of a group of people having a high-profile ceremony worshiping Iblis. :eek:

    Honestly, offending uptight Christians is old hat and predictable. Even Marilyn Manson moved on from it.
     
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    In Mosul...
    Tom
     
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    Eh, Praise Thomas Jefferson that american religious groups have been reminded every day for 240 years that americans so not accept religious fervor as a justification for violence. Do you really think if someone held a black mass in salem 300 years ago there would have been more tolerance from christians than muslims today may exhibit?

    The only difference between muslim and christian is 250 years of beating it into their heads that religious fervor is an unacceptable justification for violence!
     
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    Huey09 He who struggles with God

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    I don't know much about Satanism but my philosophy about demonstrations and religious moments is in line with Will Smith in MIB: "Don't start none, won't be none" :) I hope everyone in the black mass has fun and that these Fanatics will go home and read a book. I suggest the DC comic series Lucifer ;) hahaha
     
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    Hahahaha. That's a good idea!
     
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    I don't watch movies much so I don't know Men in Black. (Will is hot, that's all I know)

    But the quote is dead wrong. Anybody can be quietly minding their own business and still get their everything trashed by one violent dufous with a plan or a weapon. That is why the world is so violent. Because violence works in the short term way humans tend to think.

    Tom
     
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    Is it being recorded?
     
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    Whiterain Get me off of this planet

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    I doubt there will be any lynching, stonings, immolation's or molotov cocktails, that would be a fascinating development though..

    Religious freedom is a constitutional right of American citizens and the
    Christians are a always up and up about how this was a Christian nation
    and should be a Christian nation. It's one of those fine print things people
    just disregard about American citizenship.
     
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