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Black lives matter co-founder says they are trained Marxists.

Notanumber

A Free Man
I think people are slowly waking up to it now. The only reason I was aware of this was because yesterday I heard about this on the radio, otherwise I would not have even known had it not been for that.

Most I think see it as a movement to fight racism and leveling the playing field for minority groups without realizing it is an encroachment of Marxism.

It kind of suggests BLM organizers have been wantonly dishonest and were suppressing that particular piece of information.

It's out now thankfully, and it's going to need to be addressed.

The Left have been using racism for ages to silence anyone that disagrees with their ideology.

BLM is just another step in that direction.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The Left have been using racism for ages to silence anyone that disagrees with their ideology.

BLM is just another step in that direction.
There's no question about their intolerance to opinions that do not match up with their own. I think a lot of people are not fooled by the left's facade whenever it comes to openness and fairness of views.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
fRight-wingers just hear the word and think it sounds evil. That's the power of propaganda. I don't see anyone calling for a Marxist society. I do see people pushing Fascism. Which is much worse.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
fRight-wingers just hear the word and think it sounds evil. That's the power of propaganda. I don't see anyone calling for a Marxist society. I do see people pushing Fascism. Which is much worse.

This man explains what Fascism really is and those that use it deceitfully.


The Right and knowledge are the enemies of the Big Lie.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
This doesn't really address the big question...
Would we be "better off" under Stalin's great control in modern Ameristan?
Vague as the quoted criterion is, if one cannot demonstrate a positive answer,
then the cure for crime might be worse than the crime. After all, isn't heavy
handed policing the problem?

If Stalin took control of America today? Heck, I don't know what would happen.

When it came to the police and the USSR, most people complained about the NKVD/KGB, not so much the average beat cop.

Moreover, if their goal is to end racism, they've not
stated how adoption of Marxism would accomplish that.

Marxism advocates equality of treatment.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
If you were still alive to see it... Such 'progress' came at the cost of up to 10 million peacetime deaths, mostly in the Ukraine.

Not sure how you price in the fear factor into quality of life either.

Well, yes, as I said, it was a bad time during the 1920s when that was going on.

Of course, as so many often say in the US, if people would just obey the law, follow police instructions, and refrain from resisting arrest, they'd stay alive.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
If Stalin took control of America today? Heck, I don't know what would happen.

When it came to the police and the USSR, most people complained about the NKVD/KGB, not so much the average beat cop.



Marxism advocates equality of treatment.

Was it possible to hear the complaints of most people from their Siberian prison cells?

Advocating and reality are not the same.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
If Stalin took control of America today? Heck, I don't know what would happen.

When it came to the police and the USSR, most people complained about the NKVD/KGB, not so much the average beat cop.
The policing system was what it was, including the secret police,
gulags, & all other mechanisms which maintained strict control.
I favor a balance between crime & its prevention which is less
oppressive than what Stalin imposed.

I've read estimates of Stalin's killings from 3 to 60 million.
Let's take the lower figure, & reduce it one order of magnitude.
300k is still far far worse than the rate BLM decries in Ameristan.
Marxism advocates equality of treatment.
We can advocate this equality without being shackled by marxism.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Trump appears to be a criminal but has not been brought to book (maybe he will once he's out of office).
We have a system.
The Dems tried to convict him after impeachment.
They failed.
Now he's up for re-election.
The voters will decide if the prefer him to the opposition.
I say that's a system that's functioning as designed.

Too many people think the system should prevent leaders
they hate. It just doesn't work that way. People hated
Johnson, Nixon, Clinton, Reagan, Dubya, etc. But they
came & went, with the system surviving them...no descent
into fascism or civil war. One should take the long view.
 

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
We have a system.
The Dems tried to convict him after impeachment.
They failed.
Now he's up for re-election.
The voters will decide if the prefer him to the opposition.
I say that's a system that's functioning as designed.

Too many people think the system should prevent leaders
they hate. It just doesn't work that way. People hated
Johnson, Nixon, Clinton, Reagan, Dubya, etc. But they
came & went, with the system surviving them...no descent
into fascism or civil war. One should take the long view.
Criminals don't normally get a period of grace, as he seems to have.
 

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
They do if they're politicians.
Bill Clinton got off (excuse the pun).
Rod Blagojevich was a rare exception.
With all the imperfections, the system still endures.
Then imo Clinton should not have either. The leader of a country is the last person who should be exempt from the law, whilst in office.
 
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