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Big Brother Is Watching

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by esmith, Mar 8, 2021.

  1. esmith

    esmith Veteran Member

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    Remember when there was a hugh stink raised about the Federal Government spying on citizens.
    For those of you who don't : The NSA Continues to Violate Americans' Internet Privacy Rights

    Now stop and think about the idea that Big Brother is now Google, Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, and a host of other high tech social media companies.

    Those that use those services(?) should not have an issue with the little ole government prying into you life, you have already given permission to the worst offenders.
     
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  2. Conscious thoughts

    Conscious thoughts Veteran Member

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    A few years ago i tried to "hide" from the government both here in Norway and especially NSA from USA, i used all the fancy tools to be unseen online. But soon realized how much work it involved to be off grid, and what do i have to hide anyway. If the big cooperations want my info they get it anyway.
     
  3. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    I was waiting for that justification.
    Thank you.

    Anyone's life can yield prosecution-worthy acts
    when put under a microscope. Surveillance is
    a powerful tool to control people.
    Have you ever engaged in or advocated civil
    disobedience?
     
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  4. Debater Slayer

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    The idea that "only those doing wrong need to worry" is one of the biggest pieces of authoritarian apologetics ever conceived. Almost anything could be viewed as "wrong" by those carrying out the overly intrusive surveillance. Just look at blasphemy charges for online posts in some countries as an example.
     
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  5. Secret Chief

    Secret Chief Meghalayan Ape

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    Bloody hell I'm agreeing with you again.
    Erich "If you've done nothing wrong you've nothing to fear" Honecker.
     
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  6. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    You have my condolences.
    Take a shower to wash off the shame.
     
  7. Secret Chief

    Secret Chief Meghalayan Ape

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  8. Kooky

    Kooky Freedom from Sanity

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    This is not a surprise for anybody living outside of America.

    That's a bit of a spurious question, is it not? I don't need to have anything illegal going on in order to not want people to spy on my private conversations, sensitive personal data, business transactions, or any other information that really shouldn't be the business of organizations not directly involved in them.

    Privacy is a human right, and I frankly find it shocking how casually people who value that right are frequently derided in discussions online, as if feeling very strongly about one's basic human rights was somehow worthy of suspicion or mockery.



    This position, I might add, can be independent of a deep suspicion for an agency that has, in the past, freely abused said data to secure unfair advantages of economic and political nature, hunted down dissenters, and is still using its political influence to guarantee that a large number of companies have become vulnerable to criminal hacking due to mandatory digital backdoors in commercial software.
     
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  9. esmith

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    I'm not worried, I'm too old to care.
    However, it is well understood on this forum that I am right of center on polictical and some social philosophies and with some calling for the re-education of those that support those ideals who knows. (by the way this is the only social media outlet that I express my political and social thoughts)
     
  10. KenS

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    I am all for fighting it all the way...however, in my view, global control is inevitable:

    Rev 13:So that no one will have power to buy or sell unless he bears the stamp (mark, inscription), [that is] the name of the beast or the number of his name.

    Call me a crazy fanatic if you will... but control is still moving forward.

    How One State Managed to Actually Write Rules on Facial Recognition

    It will always have a good reason: "At the same time, automated facial recognition has become a powerful investigative tool, helping to identify child molesters and, in a recent high-profile example, people who participated in the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol."

    But it also depends on the person in charge (as we have seen)
     
  11. exchemist

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    Indeed, I do not use Google, except YouTube on occasions, nor do I use Faecebook or Twatter. I keep my use of Amazon to an absolute minimum, not least in order to support my local High Street. I have the location service turned off on all my devices.

    The EU has some rules to control the use these companies make of personal data, but it probably does not go far enough, yet.
     
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  12. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    I used to live in the UK which has the distinction of being one of the most surveilled country in the world with approximately 7.5 cctv cameras per 100 people. I always considered this an intrusion into privacy until a friend had her handbag snatched. She stopped a passing police car just a few seconds later, gave a description of the thief. Police caller it in, cctv operator's picked up the culprit and followed him right to his home. Bag and personal effects recovered within 7 minutes.

    So yes, an intrusion that does have ar least one good use.
     
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  13. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    Well, yes. That is old news. In practice we are not free, but freedom is in sense an illusion and always in practice how much you can do as you without others trying to control you.
     
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    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    I'm glad you brought up this very vital subject. We all know that the big companies you mentioned are really part of the Government/Deep State. We all know that the Pandemic and the Covid shots are just a ruse to implant transmitters into our bodies.

    But we must continue to post about in all of our social media outlets.
     
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    That, exactly, is the crux. The corporations have asked for permission and the customers have given the permission. I won't speculate what permissions you have given to your SO to do to you in the bedroom, but imagine some government agent doing that to you without your permission. Still the same?
     
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    OK
     
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    Google, Amazon, Facebook and Twitter ARE Big Brother. If utilized, they could perform the same function if the authorities wish.

    Coincidentally I am reading 1984 now. I am nearing the end where Winston is being tortured.
     
  19. Secret Chief

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    At the least, data is harvested to enhance sales, through targeted marketing and the like. And as for going off grid....anyone watched Hunted? You've got Bob Hope.
     
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    Is that where he has a cage strapped to him and there's a monitor in it showing an endless loop of Trump's tweets?
     
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