Big Bang is dead. Long live Big Bang?

[It Aint Necessarily So]

The James Webb telescope has disproven that 13.7 billion years ago was Big Bang.
Dear professors of RF, will new age of 1000 0000 billion years solve all problems
and inconsistencies? Obviously, no. The stars cannot shine so long, because the fuel of the stars is limited.
So, Universe cannot be much older than 13.7 billion years.

Perhaps it is only 6000 years?

No. The universe is billions of years old, not 6000. The latter is from religion, an unreliable source of information about the cosmos. Biblical cosmology is based in a fictional genealogy beginning with fictional characters (an ending in a virgin birth), and containing wrong ideas about the structure of the earth and of the heavens. You shouldn't go to such sources for information about reality.

Your video was a nice illustration of the difference between academia and religion. The first seven minutes all come from science and technology, not religion, and are facts intended to educate rather than persuade. All of that comes from science and technology, and none from religion.

Then, abruptly, just before the seven-minute mark, it changes to religion with a series of unsupported, faith-based claims intended to persuade rather than educate, none of which did what you claim that it did. And that is typical of theology. It's at this point that the video goes from useful to not useful except as another attempt at indoctrinating the susceptible. The contrast in the traditions of the two couldn't be more apparent.

 

[stvdv]

Doesn't science answer the physical world questions? They might get it wrong from time to time, or discover deeper knowledge about a subject, but why would they lie?

Well, they need to be paid, and their employers might demand certain minor changes. Would not be the first time this has happened

 

[stvdv]

The James Webb telescope has disproven that 13.7 billion years ago was Big Bang.
Dear professors of RF, will new age of 1000 0000 billion years solve all problems
and inconsistencies? Obviously, no. The stars cannot shine so long, because the fuel of the stars is limited.
So, Universe cannot be much older than 13.7 billion years.

Perhaps it is only 6000 years?

What do you think?
Closer to 6000 years
Closer to 13 billion years

 

[questfortruth]

What do you think?
Closer to 6000 years
Closer to 13 billion years

I am what I am. I am Christian. Hence, I am Creationist, not Darwinist.

 

[fantome profane]

I am what I am. I am Christian. Hence, I am Creationist, not Darwinist.

Might be the first time I have seen someone use an ad hominem attack against themselves.

 

[Sand Dancer]

No. The universe is billions of years old, not 6000. The latter is from religion, an unreliable source of information about the cosmos. Biblical cosmology is based in a fictional genealogy beginning with fictional characters (an ending in a virgin birth), and containing wrong ideas about the structure of the earth and of the heavens. You shouldn't go to such sources for information about reality.

Your video was a nice illustration of the difference between academia and religion. The first seven minutes all come from science and technology, not religion, and are facts intended to educate rather than persuade. All of that comes from science and technology, and none from religion.

Then, abruptly, just before the seven-minute mark, it changes to religion with a series of unsupported, faith-based claims intended to persuade rather than educate, none of which did what you claim that it did. And that is typical of theology. It's at this point that the video goes from useful to not useful except as another attempt at indoctrinating the susceptible. The contrast in the traditions of the two couldn't be more apparent.

The 6,000 year old earth rumor was made recently. It was made up by James Ussher in 1650.

 

[Sand Dancer]

I am what I am. I am Christian. Hence, I am Creationist, not Darwinist.

Not all Christians at creationists.

 

[Aupmanyav]

YouTube.

Yeah, if Bible is God's word, then Youtube sure is a reliable source of scientific information.

 

[questfortruth]

Not all Christians at creationists.

And not all Christians are Schizophrenic. Not all Christians are retarded. Not all Christians will be in Heaven.

 

[RestlessSoul]

Reality is not determined by popular vote.

Maybe not. But there is an argument that objective reality can only be understood collectively, given that we each experience it subjectively. If objective reality is defined as mind-independent, how can we, each from our unique perspective, understand that which we hold models of only in our minds?

If the only escape from solipsism is through connection, and I would strongly argue that it is, how do we connect with others and with the world, if not through communication, consensus and compromise? To say that it is the consensus view among astronomers, involving not inconsiderable intellectual compromise, is an observation we can reasonably make of the Big Bang theory.

 

[gnostic]

I am what I am. I am Christian. Hence, I am Creationist, not Darwinist.

What do the Big Bang cosmology have to do with Darwinism or with Evolution.

The theory of Evolution only focused on biology, not on astronomy, astrophysics or physical cosmology.

 

[Revoltingest]

The scientific method has an excellent track record. Sometimes the public can have a reasonable understanding of science. When they don't. they are wrong.

But the religiontific method is superior because
unlike the scientific method, it proves things to
be true.
Examples of things shown by religion to be
indisputably absolutely true....
Atheists burn in Hell.
There is one god, named God.
Jesus Christ is God's only prophet.
The Earth is 10,000 years old.
Atheists can go to Heaven.
The Bible is incorruptible.
Thou shalt not commit murder.
There is one god, named Allah.
Muhammed is Allah's prophet.
The Earth is 6,000 years old.
Joseph Smith is God's prophet.
Murdering abortion doctors is good.
The Bible is corrupted.
Only the Koran is the true word of Allah.

 

[muhammad_isa]

Atheists burn in Hell..

God is that which you expect from Him..

Only the Koran is the true word of Allah.

..but it isn't..
Leave that which makes you doubt, for that which does NOT make you doubt.

 

[Revoltingest]

God is that which you expect from Him..


..but it isn't..
Leave that which makes you doubt, for that which does NOT make you doubt.

There's no point in arguing against the "facts" I posted.
They were culled for the purpose of illustrating the
contradictory claims believed to be inerrantly true.

 

[muhammad_isa]

There's no point in arguing against the "facts" I posted.
They were culled for the purpose of illustrating the
contradictory claims believed to be inerrantly true.

I know why you posted them .. but do you know why I posted what I did?

 

[Revoltingest]

I know why you posted them .. but do you know why I posted what I did?

You disagreed with those "facts".
But there are others who believe them.

 

[Astrophile]

The 6,000 year old earth rumor was made recently. It was made up by James Ussher in 1650.

William Shakespeare got there earlier. In As You Like It (written in about 1600), he made Rosalind say, 'The poor world is almost six thousand years old' (AYLI, IV, 1, 89-90).