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Discussion in 'Science and Religion' started by dad, May 24, 2020.

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  1. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    POST #1

    And you know it.
     
  2. dad

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    In other words the OP. Great, that narrows it down. Something in the quotes there you disagree with.

    Should I guess?

    The guy mentioned a trillionth of a second, was that it? It was exponentially more ore less imaginary time? Ha.
     
  3. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    You know what we have been discussing, stop being stilly just because you failed
     
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  4. dad

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    No idea what you are babbling about. You are not welcome to continue to post dishonestly though. If any other poster knows the issue with the article that Christinem is talking about, let us know.
     
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  5. Native

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    Didn´t you just undermined your own religious beliefs with this statement?
     
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    Ah, the delusional, egotistical view of one who believes he has been blessed by God.
     
  7. dad

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    Not at all. When a belief system is presented as science it is evil.
     
  8. dad

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    You never met Isaiah, why slander him by calling him names? If you are referring to the believer who posted Scripture, or any other believer that ever lived...they are blessed.
    By not accepting so called science we get that extra blessing! Ps 1:1
     
  9. Thief

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    ok....I skipped most of this....because....

    the universe is expanding

    reverse that motion and it all comes back to a single location

    at the 'point' of the primordial singularity the numbers run off the chalkboard

    and paradoxically……..resulting in......nothing
    nada
    zip

    all that we 'know'.....
    in one location

    think about it
     
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    When science is twisted to accommodate a belief system, that is really evil. Right, Dad?
     
  11. ecco

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    I didn't call him names. I referred to his stated worldview. Are you suggesting that Isiah did not say the things you quoted him as saying?
     
  12. dad

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    I did, and here is what I came up with.

    The earth was created first as well as what we call space. Then the rest of what we call the universe was created. The stars were made in that expanse. Part of the reason stars were made was for earth people to be able to mark time. Possibly there is an even greater connection in regulating time with the stars also. There is also a spiritual connection. Certain star groups are associated with various spirits. Possibly some of the fallen angels that live out there as we speak dwell in the various areas where these star groups are. (they will all be made to come down to live in earth soon)

    So the origin and true nature of stars is completely different that the models science has concocted based on faith alone.

    What could cause red shifting of light in deep space is very different from what caused light shifting here near earth. WE don't know what all causes it. Possibly time itself changes as we move away from earth, and that could cause red shifting..or...etc etc.

    The idea of the universe expanding at a certain rate now is faith based and of course, so is the notion that it must have been a little tiny hot soup speck at one time!
     
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    When I read what you said "delusional, egotistical view" I find that ignorant and slanderous when applied to God's word.
     
  14. dad

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    Science can't be twisted. So called science is a twisted pile of fables and it can be and is twisted. Real knowledge is fine. The origins sciences (paleo this and that, geology for the most part, cosmology, evolutionary biology, etc etc etc) are NOT knowledge or real sciences.
     
  15. IndigoChild5559

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    Do you ascribe to the idea that everything on the internet is right?
     
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    I ascribe to the idea that if someone wants to correct a science article, that is fine. One should tell us the part they are correcting, as well as explain why the correction was needed. If a poster whines and insults for several posts, beating around the bush and avoiding honest debate, well, good riddance.
     
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    not buying any of that
     
  18. dad

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    No problem. Believe what you like. Remember, it is a belief, not actual science when it comes to all origin issues.
     
  19. IndigoChild5559

    IndigoChild5559 Loving God and my neighbor as myself.

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    I thought I was pretty clear.
     
  20. dad

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    Read for comprehension.
     
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