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Featured Big-bang has happened, or currently in progress ?

Discussion in 'Science and Religion' started by chinu, Aug 14, 2020.

  1. chinu

    chinu One of "His" creature.

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    means "re-union" with from where we all started the journey of life in the beginning.
    "Happened" refers to something which has comes to its end.
    Keeping this thing in mind my my question to science is:
    • Big-bang has happened ?
    • Or, big-bang currently in progress ?
     
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  2. Heyo

    Heyo Well-Known Member

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    The expansion of the universe has never stopped and likely will never stop.
    The rapid expansion (inflation) stopped as the universe was as big as a grapefruit. (Though there may be regions where it didn't stop.)
    So, the correct answer is 1. depends what you mean and 2. we don't know.
     
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  3. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    Evidence as evidence. You know, evidence!!!
     
  4. chinu

    chinu One of "His" creature.

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    Evidence for what ?
     
  5. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    The bold part.
     
  6. chinu

    chinu One of "His" creature.

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    Still don't understand your question.
    Do you care to rephrase it ?
     
  7. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    I want evidence for the fact of this claim: "The rapid expansion (inflation) stopped as the universe was as big as a grapefruit."
     
  8. chinu

    chinu One of "His" creature.

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    means "re-union" with from where we all started the journey of life in the beginning.
    He used the word "Rapid" along with expansion.
    Perhaps there might be some meaning of this.

    Let us wait for Heyo to come and explain. :)
     
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  9. 'mud

    'mud ~~ Life is Stuff ~~
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    And to the question of how comes to mind !
    Oh....I know....`Godidit`,

    and where was `God` at that time ?
    Hiding in the emptiness of the void !
    Was `He` in the singularity all that time ?
    Smaller than the smallest of the nothingness ?
    And on and on and......

    Sorry...but someone is leaving Stuff out here !
    Or....................
     
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    'mud ~~ Life is Stuff ~~
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    I really love imagination
     
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    That is a question separate from the theory of the big bang. According to the theory of relativity we are inside time, so in that sense we are part of the big bang and cannot see outside of it. Without relativity we'd have some hope of thinking about what could happen before the big bang, but I think that relativity is more certain than the big bang is. It has held up against experimentation. If we are wrong about the big bang though, then maybe there is a before. Probably there is not.
     
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    'mud ~~ Life is Stuff ~~
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    There is not a container for the Cosmos,
    nor it's common ingredients as universes !
    We'll see not the edge, or the container, ever !
     
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    'mud ~~ Life is Stuff ~~
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    I would guess that `God` is out there somewhere, you think ?
    NAH !
     
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    "When the universe was just 10-34 of a second or so old — that is, a hundredth of a billionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of a second in age — it experienced an incredible burst of expansion known as inflation, in which space itself expanded faster than the speed of light. During this period, the universe doubled in size at least 90 times, going from subatomic-sized to golf-ball-sized almost instantaneously." - from Our Expanding Universe: Age, History & Other Facts | Space

    Note that the size of a golf ball is the lower limit, so, in cosmological dimensions, a grapefruit is nearer to the assumed volume.
     
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    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    In progress.
    Still happening.
    We're still whizzing through space.
    Wweeeeee........ !!!
     
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    'mud ~~ Life is Stuff ~~
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    All this from a super smart Priest !
    Without a real good telescope !
    How far is far ?
     
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    An introduction to cosmological inflation
     
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  18. mikkel_the_dane

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    "The work that goes into understanding the expanding universe comes from a combination of theoretical physics." From the article. If you don't understand what that means, namely that is hypotheses and not factual theories, I can't help you.
    That is not a fact, like say the monitor in front of you is a fact.

    Now if you can show the actual measurements of that grapefruit as based on observation, you know evidence, I will listen.
     
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    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    The BB may have never happened, there are alternatives among the plethora of hypothesis. Imagine blowing up a balloon, would you say that first puff was a bang?

    There is no doubt there was a period of rapid inflation that has left its mark in the CMB, lots of energy involved so had there been a medium to carry sound it would have sounded like the biggest bang in the universe ;-)

    Followed by a period of expansion that is still going on and is unlikely to stop.
     
  20. mikkel_the_dane

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    "... which postulates ..." At the start in your link. Could you learn to read and comprehend? And if you have to, put me on ignore.
    It gets old. You are not the first one, which treats a postulate as a fact. I can do that too. I postulate that God exists, therefore it is a fact. You wouldn't accept that and nor would I. But I don't accept as a fact something which starts with "which postulates".
     
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