Biden orders airstrikes on Iranian backed militias in Syria.

[Revoltingest]

So, you're saying that makes them qualified to speak for the regime they had no love for? Would Hillary Clinton make a good spokesperson for the Trump Administration?

I don't recall saying anything remotely like that.
Hillary speaking for Trump...extraordinarily unlikely.

Appeasing a public gripped by war fever seems a good way to get re-elected.

Politicians often place their own interests ahead of good public policy.

 

[sun rise]

So you agree that Biden has blood on his hands.

Do you agree that Trump has blood on his hands?

 

[Quetzal]

Do you agree that Trump has blood on his hands?

Why are we talking about Trump when the post is about Biden?

 

[esmith]

Why are we talking about Trump when the post is about Biden?

because to many people have post-Trump-derangement-syndrome.

 

[Revoltingest]

because to many people have post-Trump-derangement-syndrome.

Combine this with whataboutism as a Biden defense tool.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I was optimistic (my first mistake) that Biden wouldn't take this route, especially so soon.

I mention so many times. Mirror images of each other. The two party monopoly is more alike than people want to think on several fronts.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I knew Biden would be a neoliberal imperialist puppet who will drag us into more illegal wars, which is part of the reason why I voted for Trump. Iran is no threat to us. The only real threat to the US is China, and our neoliberal and Zionist foreign policy which is hurting us, too.

 

[Kooky]

What Trump didn't do, Biden did.

U.S. carries out airstrikes against Iranian-backed militia facilities in Syria: Pentagon

I'm actually impressed. Iran is a very dangerous country and the airstrikes serves a very strong message here.

What do you think of the situation and Biden's actions?

Do you believe he should have assassinated another Iranian general instead?

I'm genuinely curious about what constitutes the correct amount of involvement into Middle Eastern politics for American conservatives.

 

[Kooky]

I've never heard from any of the many Iranian ex-pats
I know that they wanted a more militaristic Ameristan.
Anger often results in dysfunctional reactions, eg, our
attacking Iraq & Afghanistan after 9/11. We never
thought that thru....we just reacted out of thoughtless
vengeance....which both Hillary & Biden supported.

Support for the invasion of Afghanistan was bipartisan, to the point of being nearly unanimous in the US. During that time, I talked to many right-wing "libertarians" who saw no issue with deploying US military force either. I remember that back then, I felt largely alone in my objection to such an invasion.

 

[Revoltingest]

Support for the invasion of Afghanistan was bipartisan, to the point of being nearly unanimous in the US. During that time, I talked to many right-wing "libertarians" who saw no issue with deploying US military force either. I remember that back then, I felt largely alone in my objection to such an invasion.

You didn't talk to me about it.

 

[Kooky]

You didn't talk to me about it.

Sorry, let me get my time machine!

 

[Revoltingest]

Sorry, let me get my time machine!

Libertarians can disagree among themselves
about how best to achieve shared goals.
My approach to an issue...
Which option is the most libertarian choice available.

Some non-libertarians here have decried this as not "pure".
I'm pragmatic. I don't do purity.

 

[Kooky]

Libertarians can disagree among themselves
about how best to achieve shared goals.

In fact, I'd argue that it's almost inevitable that they will.

 

[Revoltingest]

In fact, I'd argue that it's almost inevitable that they will.

But we have different tendencies than liberals & conservatives,
the result being some agreement with both on some issues.
I prefer our melange....or pastiche of policies to theirs.

@ChristineM....I spoke French!

 

[sun rise]

Why are we talking about Trump when the post is about Biden?

Because the question itself is not a serious statement about what a President does to deserve 'blood on his hands' but a political ploy designed to try to show that liberals are hypocritical.

The question is thus fair only if the questioner honestly will answer his own question about his own guy.

 

[sun rise]

because to many people have post-Trump-derangement-syndrome.

Yes, those who built a golden 'calf' to worship.

 

[esmith]

Yes, those who built a golden 'calf' to worship.

people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

 

[Stevicus]

I don't recall saying anything remotely like that.

Well, I said:

If they're ex-pats, then it's doubtful that they were speaking on behalf of the regime they fled from.

Then you said:

Wrongo pongo.
They had no love for that regime. Secular folk, draft dodgers
(who didn't want to die from poison gas on the front). And
they still have family & property back in the old country.

So, either they were speaking on behalf of the government of the Islamic Republic of Iran, or they weren't. I thought that since they were ex-pats, then it was doubtful that they would speak on behalf of the current Iranian government, but then you said "Wrongo pongo" to that.

Hillary speaking for Trump...extraordinarily unlikely.

Just like it's extraordinarily unlikely that ex-pats would speak for the regime they fled from. But you said "wrongo pongo" when I suggested that.

Politicians often place their own interests ahead of good public policy.

It depends on what the public wants (or is led to believe that they want). Also, I don't think politicians necessarily place their own interests ahead of things. They have campaign donors and party bosses to answer. They're never their own man.

 

[Revoltingest]

So, either they were speaking on behalf of the government of the Islamic Republic of Iran, or they weren't. I thought that since they were ex-pats, then it was doubtful that they would speak on behalf of the current Iranian government, but then you said "Wrongo pongo" to that.

I'm losing track of things.
Suffice to say that they spoke personally,
& not on behalf of the government.

It depends on what the public wants (or is led to believe that they want). Also, I don't think politicians necessarily place their own interests ahead of things. They have campaign donors and party bosses to answer. They're never their own man.

Doing what the public wants is often not in the public's interest.

 

[Left Coast]

I knew Biden would be a neoliberal imperialist puppet who will drag us into more illegal wars, which is part of the reason why I voted for Trump. Iran is no threat to us. The only real threat to the US is China, and our neoliberal and Zionist foreign policy which is hurting us, too.

Except Trump was no different. It is sad that Biden continues the neoliberal bull**** of his predecessors. But voting for people who are even more authoritarian is not a rational alternative.