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Biden Hire's Racist Who Teaches Blacks are "Superior" to Whites

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I'm sorry to tell you the term "white hispanic" (or a close equivalent to be more precise) was invented by the Spanish in the 16th century when they started to classify the population into a system of racial caste in 17 categories. It's a fairly common distinction in South and Central America. I suppose it would be the same in ancient Spanish possession in the Southern US like Florida.
It wasn't in popular usage here until the media found
it necessary to label a Hispanic "racist". It was the
only way to inflame leftish passions, since minorities
killing minorities isn't newsworthy. A white perp is
essential.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
I'm the idiot?
I'm not the one using a tautology, ie, rationalizing
the accusation of racism based solely upon your
labelling the person racist.

Well no, I'm using a behavior and a historic of past behavior to call someone racist. If you discriminate against or slander black people and accuse a black person of being foreigner (a bad thing) publicly, that would be racist behavior in my opinion.

You are the one saying that doing those things isn't signs of racist behavior, that's incidental. I wonder what's your standard to call someone racist at that point.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
It wasn't in popular usage here until the media found
it necessary to label a Hispanic "racist" It was the
only way to inflame leftish passions, since minorities
killing minorities isn't newsworthy.

Except it was used and create by the census bureau in the US in the 70's well before those events making your theory appear to me like good old prejudice against the Left. It was important to make the distinction in segregationists States between white hispanics and those back then dubbed Mexicans for marriage laws for example.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
It wasn't in popular usage here until the media found
it necessary to label a Hispanic "racist". It was the
only way to inflame leftish passions, since minorities
killing minorities isn't newsworthy. A white perp is
essential.

Re-invent seems more likely than that the 16th century Spanish historians revived the term.
Whether invented or reintroduced, the purpose was the same.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Except it was used and create by the census bureau in the US in the 70's well before those events making your theory appear to me like good old prejudice against the Left. It was important to make the distinction in segregationists States between white hispanics and those back then dubbed Mexicans for marriage laws for example.
And yet, there it was in the media...current plethora vs prior paucity.
Don't ignore the necessity of making Zimmerman white instead of
Hispanic. Twas pure race bating by the leftish media.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Re-invent seems more likely than that the 16th century Spanish historians revived the term.
Whether invented or reintroduced, the purpose was the same.
The left will never admit their purpose.
Just hide behind superficialities.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
Saying someone was born in another country is not racism... Not in America, the meltingpot.

...Maybe in an ethnic country. But not here.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
This doesn't mean that everything they say is racist.
It's useful to actually consider what is said.
That's my standard.

As is context and other's people reaction.

Nativism is always suspect of racism since those two forms of tribalistic discrimination and ideology are closely related a=in style and substance and fed by the same form of xenophobia.

If nativist accusation against Obama were carried by more than the classical group of already bigoted people, it would indeed by prudent not to wash the entire movement as just "racist and bigots scratching their hitch", but it never appeared to have hit the mainstream. Even opponents of Obama were not quick to jump on it with McCain and the tenors of the GOP rejecting birtherism out of hand.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
The left will never admit their purpose.
Just hide behind superficialities.

I've been saying that for a long time. I don’t think they have a purpose, it's all pure folly. Which isn't necessarily "bad", but it ought to be recognized by those capable.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Saying someone was born in another country is not racism... Not in America, the meltingpot.

...Maybe in an ethnic country. But not here.
Well, as I've been told, I'm a racist.
So when I criticized an Obama policy, it was racist.
It is difficult to converse with people who see others
thru that lens, ie, applied labels define one.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
As is context and other's people reaction.

Nativism is always suspect of racism since those two forms of tribalistic discrimination and ideology are closely related a=in style and substance and fed by the same form of xenophobia.

If nativist accusation against Obama were carried by more than the classical group of already bigoted people, it would indeed by prudent not to wash the entire movement as just "racist and bigots scratching their hitch", but it never appeared to have hit the mainstream. Even opponents of Obama were not quick to jump on it with McCain and the tenors of the GOP rejecting birtherism out of hand.

This won't apply in a place where all are immigrants, or descendants of immigrants... Such as the United States.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
As is context and other's people reaction.
And now your reaction, ie, that it's racism,
is further evidence that it's racist? Oh, dear.

That's the same rationale that MAGAs use
to defend Trump now, ie, that having labelled
prior attacks on him as a "witch hunt", this
latest impeachment is mere "witch hunt".
They ignore the reality in favor of the label.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
And now your reaction, ie, that it's racism,
is further evidence that it's racist? Oh, dear.

That's the same rationale that MAGAs use
to defend Trump now, ie, that having labelled
prior attacks on him as a "witch hunt", this
latest impeachment is mere "witch hunt".
They ignore the reality in favor of the label.

Racism in this country is embedded with conspiracy theory.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Would a white person get the same benefit of the doubt? Asian?
Yes and yes. Not only do white people get the benefit of the doubt, they've been enjoying the benefit of the doubt on matters like this for decades.

And also, it's not "benefit of the doubt". Again, any "doubt" is based entirely ignoring literally everything else this person has said and done for the last 27 years. Does that sound reasonable, to you?

If the republicans had promoted a white person who had written something similar, the same people championing KC would be screaming about how it is a national disgrace that proves America is a fundamentally racist country.
False. Are you unaware that there was a former member of the KKK in the democratic party?

When assessing somebody's racism, you don't judge it solely by an anonymous letter they wrote 27 years ago. You look at their track record and their rhetoric throughout their life. In this case, you have one letter (which she claims doesn't represent her views), and a lifetime of work as a civil rights lawyer. Which carries more weight?

Perfectly good other than the racialism...

When the 'optics' are that you look like a massive hypocrite thus damage an important cause, just appoint one of the thousand other equally qualified and capable people who are perfectly good candidates rather than "perfectly good excusing the racialism"
Or, you could not play into the hands of disingenuous people and appoint the person you believe is right for the job.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
And yet, there it was in the media...current plethora vs prior paucity.
Don't ignore the necessity of making Zimmerman white instead of
Hispanic. Twas pure race bating by the leftish media.

I would say this is pure bias on your part.

The term was in wide usage back then and now. It was used often in the media because that's how Zimmerman described himself. Your idea that it was "race bating" has only your own biased perception to rely on and was factually incorrect on several points. Hell, most of the report don't even mention the race of Zimmerman.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I would say this is pure bias on your part.
Everyone has biases.
I'm sure you won't deny having them.
So it's fruitless to call anyone on that.

The difference between our views...
You argue that prejudice (prior judgement of a
person) determine their motives for all things said.
I prefer to examine what's said.

Btw, Zimmerman was a "white Hispanic" in the news.
I didn't refer to any report.
 
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