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Biden Approval Drops to 50%, Lowest for Him to Date

Discussion in 'Political Debates' started by We Never Know, Jul 26, 2021.

  1. Left Coast

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    Ah yes, look at all these communist dictatorships!

    America’s Image Abroad Rebounds With Transition From Trump to Biden

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  2. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    Popularity polls, especially by ferriners are very
    important because......zzzZZZzzzzZZZZzzz......
     
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    Well, yeah, they play golf too. But golf tends to be associated with wealthy people and snooty country clubs. Bowling alleys are different, more of a working class, blue-collar vibe to it.
     
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    Of course we can't trust everything the Democrats say about Republicans and vice versa, but I would share with you my experience living here during 2020.

    President Trump, for better or for worse, at first denied that anyone should take this virus seriously. He refused to wear masks and discouraged others from doing so for many months. He actively spread the virus to his own friends and supporters at rallies. His reaction to the virus was to downplay it and say it wouldn't be a problem. Then he came down with the virus and was saved through experimental medicine. He was gone for several days and the experimental medicine was not available to average citizens. Sometime after this he changed his mind about the danger of the virus. I saw this happening and am not just talking about things said to me by other people. That's the straight dope make of it what you will.

    Yes, the Democrats did take advantage of this, and they cried bloody murder over it. They made sure that all of their people wore masks during speeches, actively supported shutdowns and partial shutdowns and school closings. The Republicans talked about how deadly it was to close businesses and the problems with closing schools. They pointed out the scary draconian measures taken by some Democrat governors of states when they declared curfews. In the end the Republicans were embarrassed but never admitted such embarrassment. It would not have been politically expedient, since they might have lost some supporters that way. You win some you lose some, and each party made a guess about how to handle the pandemic. They made their guess and went with it 100% to the end.

    President Trump (yes our president) was forced to change his mind about the virus being dangerous, but he also denied having done all those things: discouraging masks, criticizing school closings and business closings. He was unable to admit any fault. He took credit for the vaccine even. I believe this was one of his character flaws, an inability to self criticize. The Democrats also took advantage of that at every turn. They are, of course, the antagonists of the Republicans. Its their job to criticize Republicans and call out the flaws of the opposing party members.

    What does it matter in hindsight? That is debatable. That is opinion and comedy and politics. It did happen though exactly as I am telling you.

    Nah, just probably has to do with them being across the ocean. I don't closely follow things in S.A. either.
     
  5. Quetzal

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    Yeah, I don't take the opinion of folks from outside of the country regarding the goings-on here very seriously.
     
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    Doesn't the White House heve a bowling alley in it?
     
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    Yes, there is. It was constructed during the Truman Administration.
     
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    I didn't check the poll. I'm feeling a little tired / not awake yet this morning. But if it's Americans being polled, my theory is that there's some disapproval of the large spending bills he wants to do. While I had RF explain to me why it's good spending, the majority of people may not agree / may not have RF explaining things to them, and I recall an article on Yahoo news stating that the large majority disapproved of his large spending bills including the infrastructure bill.
     
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    It's because all the democrats ever do is hold down the fort until the republicans can regroup and attack it again. And the republicans are doing their level best to make sure that's all he can do until they can regroup and attack, again.
     
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    Now that falls into the "seriously bizarre" category.
     
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    You really don't know what you're talking about, so why should I even waste my time.
     
  13. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    My goodness -- you do know everything that social media knows. I suspect your grasp of reality is not quite so strong, however.
     
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    Comparison to other polls might be something to consider.

    The Rasmussen polls indicate that approval for Biden has been bouncing around but more or less about the same somewhere between 47% and 54% (49% currently) with disapproval somewhere between 46% and 51% (49% currently). The trend has been in those who Strongly Approve of Biden, which has been more or less dropping since the start of the year from a 36% high (30% currently). The percent of those who Strongly Disapprove of Biden has risen slightly, experiencing a dip at the end of May, but Disapproval of Biden recovered quickly (40% currently).

    It seems to me that approval for Biden has softened: those who approve of Biden do not support him as strongly as they did at the start of the year.
     
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    I think you watched CNN too much, and got the one side of the story.

    perhaps you should mention that at that stage the WHO gave statisticsw that the fatalities were amongst people older than 70 years, with underlying conditions. Fauchi also supported the view that Quininne will be a freat precautionary, as reports came in on people on Chloroquinne for other illnesses prevented tham from getting very ill.
    Then there were other experimental medicines, etc.

    Dont blame Trump for what happened, and what was said right in the beginning of the pandemic, he had advisors that was looking at all possibilities, and he listened to all openminded discussions.

    I do not hear anything from you about Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Shummer and all those vicious fools who went to the China Town in protest against Trump, when he stopped any persons from China to enter the US. Remember how the Media, CNN, MSNBC etc went bezerk when Trump closed the borders of Europe, and UK?
    They could not get enough to critisize him as a racist, and fear monger.
    Funny that you dont mention that?
    How about when he needed to give billions to Pharmaceutical companies to look for a vaccine, The Dems had to push all sorts of agendas in his way to be the biggest obsticle Trump had to save lives?
    You dont say anything about that.
    Or when Trump assisted NY with a medical warship to assist covid patients, and Como rather had them die in old age homes.
    You are silent on that murders too.
    How about when Trump mentioned alternative treatment, and they all made jokes about it, forgetting he was treated and recovered by that methods.
    How about when Trump said the vaccine will be formulated before December, after his councill reported the strides the Pharm companies reached?
    The Dems made that vaccines out as untrustworthy.
    And when Trump had the covid, recovered and did not wear a mask, because he had natural immunity, they had Fauchi and Biden wearing 3 masks.

    Nope, Just as I dont thrust CNN, and MSNBC on their reporting, such as Como's brother having covid, and did not stay at home, or how they all covered for the slime of the Dems going out to dinner, hair doe's, parties etc, but forcing the population to get arrested for s***, I have doubts about your view on Trump and the fact that he singlehandedly saved hunrdeds of millions of lives.

    Sorry pal, I watch Fox and the liberal media, and I can tell you that If I was a US citizen, I would have the Dems arrested just as they did to inocent people who fell victim to their farces and lies.
     
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    So is this what RF was like between 2016 and 2020?

    I would have been banned for sure eventually.
     
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    Wait untill the US inflation rate marinades these supporters even more.
    His biggest mistake was to stop Oil production, and to allow Russian oil to Germany.
    This created a shortfall internationally, and all the countries in the world are now paying high fuel prices.
    His second biggest mistake was to print extra dollars to assist "Covid" relief and "Infrastructure Investment".
    The American workers will start to pay deerly from their hard earned money, to purchase products which was incredibly cheap an year ago.
     
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    Well, why dont you take your own American science seriously, but decides to listen to socialist propaganda instead?
    Lasting immunity found after recovery from COVID-19
    News: Lasting immunity found after recovery... (NIH Research Matters) - Behind the headlines - NLM

    Please tell me now why Fauchi and Biden dont know what your own researchers found?

    And this is the reason why I do not trust Biden on anything he does.
    When Trump had the covid, he said he has natural immunity, which any doctor will tell you is true.
    Even high school biology students understands natural immunity.
    He was made out as a "KILLER"!
    to fit the political narative of the Dems, they denied any such claims, and Fauchi even went so far as to say 3 masks is the correct way to stop killing other people.
    Oh, and Biden obviously loved that narrative, because he could portray himself as this masked hero, whilst accusing Trump of killing Americans. Something the Media pumper to overfill the market.
    Even after the Vaccines were introduced, and the Dems were propagating "Get vaccinated... get Vaccinated..." Fauchi and Biden and the media, demanded the wearing of masks!

    Well, What fools I said to myself!
    If the Vaccines prevents you from dying, and prevents you from spreading the Virus, or as the dems say, 'killing other people', why the use of masks?
    Or why get vaccinated?

    Again, someone is lying, not to me, but to you too.

    Biden is realy an iddiot from my point of view concerning Vaccines and Masks.
     
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    I live here. I'm telling you how things progressed as I lived through them, not through CNN or whatever you watched across the ocean.

    True but it doesn't change what I've said.

    It was given experimentally in large doses to the aged, possibly causing fatalities and increasing the fatality rate. Later it became understood that the dosage must not be so large. It was never a great solution, but Dr. Trump, not President Trump, called it a cure which then became news. Whoever Fauci was I did not care nor watched anything about him on the news. He wasn't a big name. I looked at what epidemiologists were saying. I posted about this on RF and am on record as being very neutral about it. I followed the information and wore a mask in accordance with epidemiologist suggestions. I ignored the two parties and their talking points.

    I didn't blame anyone. I said: "President Trump, for better or for worse, at first denied that anyone should take this virus seriously. He refused to wear masks and discouraged others from doing so for many months. He actively spread the virus to his own friends and supporters at rallies. His reaction to the virus was to downplay it and say it wouldn't be a problem. Then he came down with the virus and was saved through experimental medicine." Notice he was not saved through natural immunity. He was saved through having a cloud of personal doctors and using Regeneron.

    Nope, you did not. I of course had no opinion on the matter which was beyond my pay grade. This is hindsight.

    You have, in SA, actual concerns about black marauding armies. We don't have such problems here. If there are gangs of any kind then the police and national guard take care of business. President Trump left himself open to these accusations by Pelosi by his publicly defending white supremacist organizations in America. These are not anything like you seem to think they are. Maybe I can understand such a thing as a white militia SA. Maybe you actually need one, but here in the states we have a very bad history with white supremacists. President Trump defends organizations which are organized around fear and keeping white people afraid of anyone different. Its crazy, because we don't need white armies to defend whites here. Of course...of course Pelosi's crew are going to benefit from publicity stunts about it. It would be stupid for them not to take such an opportunity.

    I heard about that. I didn't organize it and wasn't responsible for it.

    He received a treatment that used stem cells called Regeneron. It was expensive and unavailable to other people. None of the people that he spread the virus to had that. He continued to promote spreading the virus. This was his political gamble. He believed for a long time and promoted for a long time the idea of herd immunity even after his treatment with Regeneron.

    I admit not hearing about that. The Democrats mislead people about the efficacy of a vaccine? Could be, but generally the Dems were on the side of mass vaccination the whole time. The Republicans were on the side of keeping businesses open, schools open and promoting herd immunity over all other courses of action. They made some ground on it, too, because there are arguments for keeping businesses going and not shutting down schools. Obviously its a hard decision to make. They rolled wrong. They went against the epidemiologists, and they lost some credit. As one of the two political parties they won't admit any fault. I wouldn't believe them if God gave them a talking donkey. You shouldn't either. Neither do I fault you for not trusting Democrats, but please don't try to tell me that Trump is pleasing in every way. Choose the middle ground, and don't be afraid of him. He's just one president and can only hold office for 4 years, assuming he doesn't figure out how to take over the country this time. He tried last time.

    President Trump used Regeneron to save his own life, but he forbids it to you and I. Regeneron is made from fetal stem cells, antithetical to everything his pro life voters believe in. My own family would not accept such a loathsome and repugnant treatment. They suffer from macular degeneration but have refused experimental treatment with anything related to fetal stem cells. This is a treatment that Republicans want to stop, have been trying to stop, that Trump has been promising to stop for ethical reasons, but President Trump made an exception for himself.

    This is not propaganda. I'm telling you what has happened. I'm personally in favor of Regeneron. I think its a great idea. President Trump does, too; but he opposes it politically.


    Its not your fight, and you gain nothing by impressing President Trump. He'll shake your hand with his right and stab you when you turn around unless you pay for the right to walk away. Maybe Biden will, too, but he's more of a mystery.
     
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