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Biden Administration opens tent facilities to hold illegal immigrants

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That has nothing to do with this topic. It's an entirely separate issue.
There is no reason we can't do both.
It has everything to do with it. If we can't handle our homeless, adding to the problem is only going to make a bad situation much worse.

It's common sense.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I had a friend in a group home who fought for his life. He was perfectly sound but he would be homeless if he got a full time job and in the US you can't just jump into a nice place. He didn't have access to his own funds so he caries all his cash on him. Thousands of dollars. It's one of those dam if you do scenarios. I'm in the same situation minus the danger. And $1400 in covid relief is like a smack to the face for thousands and a million dollars for others but can't do anything with it cause people just don't take cash

Forbes is cool but, well
We are people not taking cash?
But you can have trillions if dollars and still live in a poor environment some with something to live on. It's nice theology to say we are the ruches nation but it falls on deaf ears ri those who py see wealth in stats and not as good on their plate
If you have trillions of dollars and live in a poor environment then it is entirely by choice.
As for richest nations, it means how much wealth do we have. And America is indeed a mighty nation when it comes to wealth, easily being on par with a "modern day Roman Empire." They had a lot of people in poverty as well, but there is no denying to wealth and riches commanded by the Roman Empire.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
It has everything to do with it. If we can't handle our homeless, adding to the problem is only going to make a bad situation much worse.

It's common sense.
We aren't adding to the problem. Homelessness is often due to mental illness and physical handicapped. And some places, in America, are having success stories when it comes to the homeless. Or like police reform. This too is an issue that effects the homeless and the mentally ill, but policing is a separate issue and there is no reason we can't and shouldn't address all three issues.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
We can't handle our own homeless/displaced problem. That's just plain fact.
It's not that you can't. It's just that you don't.

A lot of that is for deeply ingrained ideological reasons, in the US, about the virtues of self-reliance and the concomitant contempt for those who are not.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Define "can't." Is it for lack of finances in the world's wealthiest country, or is it due to incompetent leadership and their lack of desire or drive to address the problem?
Does it matter? The fact remains we have a homeless problem with our own citizens.

As for why, I suspect its because politicians outright refuse and won't allow any type of reform or accommodation to occur. It's intentionally made that way. Otherwise, it would be solved by now.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
We aren't adding to the problem. Homelessness is often due to mental illness and physical handicapped. And some places, in America, are having success stories when it comes to the homeless. Or like police reform. This too is an issue that effects the homeless and the mentally ill, but policing is a separate issue and there is no reason we can't and shouldn't address all three issues.
No. It won't work.

First fix our own house. Then bring in the others.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It's not that you can't. It's just that you don't.

A lot of that is for deeply ingrained ideological reasons, in the US, about the virtues of self-reliance and the concomitant contempt for those who are not.

I think bought and paid for politics is also a factor.
 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
It has everything to do with it. If we can't handle our homeless, adding to the problem is only going to make a bad situation much worse.

It's common sense.
So what has been done within the last 4 years of anti-immigration policies to alleviate homelessness in the US? If it's such an important issue for conservatives, surely somebody from the Republican party or Trump's inner circle would have pushed for ways to improve the situation.
 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
What people need to learn is the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
When I do workshops with migrants, in one of the early I usually go around and ask people why they're here and what they think of their new country. Once, a young woman from Syria said, "I like that it's so peaceful here." When I asked what she meant by that, she simply replied, "Well, nobody is shooting one another."
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
No. It won't work.

First fix our own house. Then bring in the others.
Fortunately the state has never functioned on a "strictly one issue at a time" means. Amd it can't. And it can't pragmatically work, because as I pointed out these issues (like homelessness) overlap into other areas needing addressed (such as how homelessness heavily overlaps into mental health accessibility and police reform). We can do more than one issue, and we should. And we do these, not because they are easy, but because they are hard and they test our abilities as a nation.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
Why are we so burdened with so many refugees? Our homeless are out of control too, it's crazy here, what the heck are we gonna do as Americans, we have immigrants we can only afford to put in tent cities and so many unemployed homeless folks in America our country is in a bad place.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
And the reason more space is needed is because of policy changes made by the Biden Administration.
Correct, social distancing was a CDC recommendation during the Trump admin. Biden is continuing that and following the science.
Seems you have a problem with that.
 

Suave

Simulated character
The Biden Administration has set up temporary facilities to hold overflowing numbers of illegal immigrants.

https://nypost.com/2021/02/11/biden-admini-opens-tent-city-to-detain-illegal-migrants/

This is so sad on so many levels.

For our love of humanity, the environment, and hard-working migrants, please let us convert non-resident detainment facilities into clean energy job development centers where Hispanic Americans would be given the opportunity to receive training and employment in high paying jobs asembling solar panels or manufacturing lithium ion batteries. We should please urge our Congressional representives to transform these non-resident detainment facilities into clean energy job development centers.

The Green New Deal promises jobs, but workers need to be ready to fill them
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
IMO, the OP is just a another disingenuous attempt to try and justify what the Trump administration did and is just another use of "false equivalency". Obama administration had to do it because of an influx that they couldn't handle, but the average stay was 6 days. All children were eventually either reunited with their parents or were handed over to relatives or friends of the family.

The Trump administration, otoh, did it as a matter of political policy in order to "send a message", as Trump repeatedly stated, and here we are with still around 600 or so children whom have still not been reunited, the last count I heard which was several weeks ago. Not only were reporters not allowed to see the conditions, neither were the vast majority of even those in Congress! And we also know that some children were being breast fed and yet were still ripped way from their mothers.

The utter depravity of the Trump administration on so many things, including this, was and is truly sickening.
 
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