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Discussion in 'Scriptural Debates' started by Wandering Monk, May 17, 2019.

  1. Wandering Monk

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    How prevalent do you think Bibliolatry is in the United States, using this definition:

    "In Christianity, bibliolatry is used to describe extreme devotion to the Bible or to biblical inerrancy.[3] Supporters of biblical inerrancy point to passages (such as 2 Timothy 3:16–17) interpreted to say that the Bible, as received, is a complete source of what must be known about God."

    Bibliolatry - Wikipedia


     
  2. KenS

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    Who determines when one is overly devoted to what is called the word of God?
     
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  3. Wandering Monk

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    To the exclusion of any other authority in all matters, IMO.
     
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    OK... I don't think I have every met someone like that. Certainly if the "other authority" says, "It's ok to have an adulterous affair", I would be classified as an "Bibliolator". :D
     
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    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
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    Personally, what someone chooses to believe is up to them except when they want to impose it on me or others who don't believe the way they do or put me at risk (refusal to vaccinate).

    Because if they do try to impose their beliefs, then they are no different in essence from ISIS. The details do vary, but the central similarity is imposing their beliefs on others.
     
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    Bibliolatry means "worship of the Bible."
    It is usually used as an attack on those who believe in the inerrancy, infallibility, and supremacy of the Scripture, and on those who hold to "Sola Scriptura" (which means "Scriptures alone"), and/or a literal interpretation of the Bible.



    It is bibliolatry to elevate the Bible as being equal with God that studying the Bible becomes more important than developing a personal relationship with God.



    It is important though, to understand what is written in the Bible, describing the Bible itself.


    2 Tim 3
    16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

    17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.



    If the Bible is God-breathed, and if God does not lie......then, every word in the Bible must be true. That means, believing in the infallibility, innerancy and authority of the Bible, is not bibliolatry.

    It is simply believing in what God says about the Bible.
     
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  7. Wandering Monk

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    Which is completely circular reasoning. 'The Bible is God's Word because the Bible says the Bible is God's word.'
     
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    My impression is that Bibliots are pretty much confined to the evangelical denominations, which amount to 25% or so of the US population.

    [​IMG]

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  9. Wandering Monk

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    There are a subset of Evangelical in my opinion. Not all Evangelical are Fundamentalist in regard to the Bible.
     
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    According to Pew Research in 2017:

    "Christians, who make up a majority of U.S. adults (71%), are divided over how to interpret the Bible. While about four-in-ten Christians (39%) say the Bible’s text is the word of God and should be taken literally, 36% say it should not be interpreted literally or express another or no opinion. A separate 18% of Christians view the Bible as a book written by men, not God."

    hyperlink >>> pewresearch.org - 5 facts on how Americans view the Bible and other religious texts
     
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    That's from a Christian perspective. That's a belief!

    Here is a good explanation - I only quoted an excerpt of it. It also gives evidences why the Bible is the Word of God.

    Is the Bible truly God's Word?
     
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  12. tosca1

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    No. Not circular.

    The Bible is the Book written by God (through various authors).
    In 2 Tim 3, God explains what the Bible is.
     
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  13. Wandering Monk

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    I know it is a Christian belief. There is no way to prove the premise so it is an article of faith. Don't try to paint it otherwise.
     
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    How do you know the Bible is God's Word?
     
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    And its not God's words as He moved on people because you say so?
     
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    Circular reasoning is not a way to prove anything, Bible or otherwise.

    Circular reasoning is not a formal logical fallacy but a pragmatic defect in an argument whereby the premises are just as much in need of proof or evidence as the conclusion, and as a consequence the argument fails to persuade.

    Circular reasoning - Wikipedia
     
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    So, Paul's view is wrong because you said it is wrong?
     
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    Not because I said it was wrong but because the premise is unproven.
     
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    About 25 years ago I was flipping through channels, and landed on a religious channel. The televangelist was standing on the far side of a large, empty stage, holding up a copy of his Bible. He said, in tones that would have been appropriate from Moses on the mount, 'If Jesus Himself came down and told me that there was something wrong with this Book, I would turn my back upon Him and HOLD TO THE BOOK." (Caps reflect his tone....)

    I have since met many evangelical, biblical (usually KJV only, but not always) inerrantists since then who shared this televangelist's opinion.

    That, I believe, is bibliolatry.

    ..........pretty much the definition of it, I think.

    Whatever, that experience sits in my memory like some other things, like, oh, where I was when Kennedy was assassinated, the Challenger explosion, the moon landing, 9/11...one of the big, life changing, memories. Before that I, even though I was in my forties, had no clue that anybody actually believed that.

    But then, my own faith system has this belief about the bible: we believe the bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly. I've never had a problem with 'problems' with the Bible, and have never been taught, or believed, that it was inerrant. How could it be? Men wrote it.
     
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    I find it quite proven with its prophetic capacity. But I'm sure there are those who disagree.
     
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