1. Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Featured Bible & Critical Thinking

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by AT-AT, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. Road Warrior

    Road Warrior Seeking the middle path..

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2012
    Messages:
    2,444
    Ratings:
    +423
    Some certainly do. Some become obnoxious Bible-thumpers walking around with a Bible and saying “Jesus is Lord” with their index finger in the air.
     
  2. InChrist

    InChrist Free4ever

    Joined:
    May 9, 2011
    Messages:
    6,462
    Ratings:
    +1,181
    Sarcasm is often hostility disguised as humor. It can be intended to mock or hurt and is often bitter and caustic. I've noticed you often make sarcastic remarks and makes me think you may not be as secure in your views concerning the accounts in the Bible, which are presented as actual historical events and which I have no problem believing an all powerful God is capable of accomplishing.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  3. Road Warrior

    Road Warrior Seeking the middle path..

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2012
    Messages:
    2,444
    Ratings:
    +423
    While that premise would be true, why do you have trouble believing an all powerful God couldn’t create the Big Bang and know what would happen 14 Billion years later? Why would God give mankind free agency then trick us with dinosaur bones and deliberately break the very rules of the Universe God had created in the first place?
     
    #183 Road Warrior, Jun 14, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2019
  4. AT-AT

    AT-AT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2019
    Messages:
    2,515
    Ratings:
    +1,568
    Religion:
    God
    In before the edit.
     
  5. Audie

    Audie Veteran Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2018
    Messages:
    11,192
    Ratings:
    +5,312
    Religion:
    None
    There is no hostility toward you, though I understand
    Christians are taught to expect "mockers" and so forth
    and believe they find them even when they are not there.

    That is what believers do, they just believe things.

    I believe you are unwilling to go int o what kind of
    thinking is required to believe in things like the 6 day
    poof and the flood, that being why you turned it back on
    me as a bitter, caustic and insecure person.

    I causticize those who have it coming. "Bitter"
    and "insecure"?

    You are just making things up, for lack of
    something real to say.
     
  6. AT-AT

    AT-AT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2019
    Messages:
    2,515
    Ratings:
    +1,568
    Religion:
    God
    Perception is a complicated thing, but I think you're nice. Sometimes I myself respond in sarcasm when I don't think a serious post will do the proper good.
     
  7. Audie

    Audie Veteran Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2018
    Messages:
    11,192
    Ratings:
    +5,312
    Religion:
    None
    A noteworthy aspect of believing the almighty could do such
    things is what a facile, simple minded, really, thing that
    is to say and do. SURE, if there is a almighty, it can do as
    it likes. No dispute there.

    What takes ignorance x intellectual dishonesty is to believe
    that there was, say, such a flood-even though there is absolutely
    no evidence that it happened! To proclaim the god they claim
    to respect and worship performed some hideous crime!

    And what is more, to be proudly virtue-signaling by saying so!


    Keep in mind that the greatest talent of believers
    is to believe things.

    "Alice laughed: "There's no use trying," she said; "one can't believe impossible things." "I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."

    (all the above should be understood as bitter insecure sarcasm
    from someone who is rebelling against god coz she wants t o
    be her own god and revel in sin)
     
    #187 Audie, Jun 14, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2019
  8. Road Warrior

    Road Warrior Seeking the middle path..

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2012
    Messages:
    2,444
    Ratings:
    +423
    When it comes to fundies on all sides, there’s little chance of convincing them of anything. The only reason to post, IMO, is to voice disagreement for those who are undecided or not convinced either way.

    I’m guilty of sarcasm and ridicule myself, but try to keep it to a minimum since, while it feels good, it’s done to inflict pain...even if that pain is minor.
     
  9. AT-AT

    AT-AT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2019
    Messages:
    2,515
    Ratings:
    +1,568
    Religion:
    God
    At some point, I feel you just have to appeal to the crowd, present your debate-points or clever rhetoric for them more than the other side.
     
  10. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2013
    Messages:
    3,554
    Ratings:
    +3,348
    Religion:
    None, a humanist who doesn't even worship humans
    But whatever you are doing with this "animal language" thing, it certainly is not "critical thinking" in the context of the discussion's of Balaam's a$$
     
  11. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2013
    Messages:
    3,554
    Ratings:
    +3,348
    Religion:
    None, a humanist who doesn't even worship humans
    But whatever you are doing with this "animal language" thing, it certainly is not "critical thinking" in the context of the discussion's of Balaam's a$$
     
  12. Road Warrior

    Road Warrior Seeking the middle path..

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2012
    Messages:
    2,444
    Ratings:
    +423
    Which is exactly the reason to post, but sarcasm is just a slightly more polite way of saying “F U!” It does nothing to persuade those are leaning in the opposite direction but are also not completely convinced. In fact, it could have the opposite effect.
     
  13. AT-AT

    AT-AT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2019
    Messages:
    2,515
    Ratings:
    +1,568
    Religion:
    God
    On the other hand, I've met people in real life and elsewhere that don't have a fine appreciation of sarcasm. They often spend their time sharing TV dinners with their cats.

    ...

    I went there.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  14. Road Warrior

    Road Warrior Seeking the middle path..

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2012
    Messages:
    2,444
    Ratings:
    +423
    Sarcasm is fine but it does have it’s limits. It’s one thing to make sarcastic remarks about the US government, but another to use it against a group of atheists or theists. What is to be gained other than to make a few laugh on one side and tick off everyone leaning the other way?
     
  15. dianaiad

    dianaiad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2010
    Messages:
    2,539
    Ratings:
    +794
    Religion:
    LDS (the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints)
    Your implication is that the creationist isn't using critical thinking about a; the factual nature of the creation stories, b; the moral/lesson of the story as told, c; about anything at all.

    Please be more precise.
     
  16. dybmh

    dybmh Terminal Optimist
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2019
    Messages:
    2,803
    Ratings:
    +1,463
    Religion:
    diversity
    Ok. My opinion on the matter is not important. Hope you're having a nice day
     
  17. dybmh

    dybmh Terminal Optimist
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2019
    Messages:
    2,803
    Ratings:
    +1,463
    Religion:
    diversity
    That's interesting. Probably not.
     
  18. dybmh

    dybmh Terminal Optimist
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2019
    Messages:
    2,803
    Ratings:
    +1,463
    Religion:
    diversity
    Ratings
     
  19. dianaiad

    dianaiad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2010
    Messages:
    2,539
    Ratings:
    +794
    Religion:
    LDS (the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints)

    Having looked up the definition of 'critical thinking,' by several experts, such as Edward Glaser, I have come to the conclusion that 'critical thinking' is defined by the observer of whoever is doing the thinking, and is defined best as:

    "S/he who agrees with me is thinking critically, and s/he who disagrees with me is a lock-step fundamentalist zombie idiot who has no clue what thinking critically means...which is, of course, agreeing with me."
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  20. Dan From Smithville

    Dan From Smithville Well-Known Member
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2017
    Messages:
    4,761
    Ratings:
    +3,223
    Religion:
    Methodist
    Maybe a dogmatic, vacuous quip.
     
Loading...