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Benjamin Baruch

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by justthefacts, Jun 17, 2004.

  1. justthefacts

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    Benjamin Baruch - Author of "The Day of the LORD is at Hand" claims he is not a prophet, but insists that he hears the audible voice of God - read these EXACT quotes of (Ben and God speaking) taken from the book...

    “And when the Lord speaks to you, who can but prophesy? I have been able to hear the voice of the Lord from my youth. I was surprised to learn recently that the majority of Christians have never heard His voice.” (BEN)

    "I have cancelled your hotel reservation…” (GOD)

    "When you get to the hotel, don’t get upset, just sit in the lobby and wait for me. I will get you a room. I only wanted to move you.” (GOD)

    “When you get to the hotel in Anaheim, a man who I have been chasing for many years will crash into your car in the parking lot. Get out of the car and speak to him the words that I give you. And don’t worry about the car. It will just be a little ding. And besides, it’s My car.” (GOD)

    “The Lord says to say to you, if you don’t return to Him and repent of your sin, He is going to kill you. This is your last warning!” (BEN)

    “I created this entire country! I know where you are and you are in the wrong place! Get back on the bus. It is leaving. I don’t want to have to argue with you again.” (GOD)

    "At this point the Lord was literally yelling at me. And what did I do? I thought to myself, I know the Lord wants me on this bus, so I better get on it. But if this is a mistake, He won’t hear the end of it, until He gets me out of this mess” (BEN)

    "That is why I am writing this book. Dear reader, you are being warned. Listen to his voice!" (BEN)

    "The highest prophetic office is held by those who can hear the Lord’s voice directly, and who have been chosen to speak to the Lord face to face.” (BEN)

    *****The Benjamin Baruch ministries claim to have witness JANET RENO on LARRY KING LIVE give her definition of what a CULT is. Upon investigation, this supposed interview with Reno NEVER HAPPENED and has been documented as a HOAX and URBAN LEGEND - Even the 700 Club aired a TV show about this RENO URBAN LEGEND being just that - AN URBAN LEGEND.

    Yet, the the prophet Benjamin Baruch claims he witnessed this, yet out of MILLIONS of viewers, no one else has stepped forward.

    What more evidence is needed to expose a false prophet? Or can a prophet make these false allegations and still be a TRUE MESSENGER?
     
  2. Ceridwen018

    Ceridwen018 Well-Known Member

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    Wow...this guy has got it bad. I don't think he is a prophet, and I can assure you that that is not just because I don't believe in god. Doesn't it all seem a little weird to you? I mean, no one has ever heard god speak (until now, apparently) but does that really sound like what god would say--"Get yer *** on the bus". Seriously though, it seems a bit fishy.

    Then again, god seems to be all about inceredibly ambiguous miracles like crying statues, so perhaps it fits...
     
  3. LCMS Sprecher

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    I would agree with Ceridwen, this guy is a quack. It is unfortunate that some people actually believe that the things he says are true.
     
  4. LCMS Sprecher

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    I would agree with Ceridwen, this guy is a quack. It is unfortunate that some people actually believe that the things he says are true.

    - Somehow got posted twice, sorry
     
  5. cando

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    1Pe 3:10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:

    Only eight souls were saved way back when @ Noah's Ark....

    "1Pe 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water."


    The way is narrow, and your soul is at risk for what you are saying about Benjamin Baruch.

    It's interesting, even Jesus Christ himself was murdered by a generation who watched miracles right in front of them, yet they killed him. Laughed at him, mocked him. Today it is the same yet worse. "Christians" (who say the are...) are slamming the true Christians who are doing the works of JESUS.

    Jesus Christ said, I am the same today, yesterday and forever.

    Anyone, like myself, professing the Giftings of the Spirit, speaking in tongues, casting out demons, etc.... is persecuted, yet it is the Gospel!

    People want to live in their religious glass boxes, and not move in the power of God, smashing satan and his demons with the word of God. Binding and loosing..... Many are going to hell because they refuse the word of God, and only listen to what their itching ears want to hear.

    I would warn any of you reading this trash from (Ozark Barbie, just the facts, linuxdude, tell the truth...some of her names) , that you seek first His kingdom...not the barbie kingdom, not seek the destruction of a man who is professing to seek God!

    I have heard from God many times. And so have thousands of American's and people all over the world. It is a minority that is speaking slander

    This is why the bible says that only a remnant will be saved.

    Benjamin Baruch is a man of God. I ask that you read his book for yourself and seek the word of God and the Spirit of God and the voice of God for yourself. Your soul is in your hands. When you see Jesus face to face what will you say? "Well, ozark barbie said so."

    People, plastic, blond theology will get you sent to hell.

    Judgment is coming upon America, we are going through the triblation, but you will not be protected if you do not repent and seek God like you never have before. This is part of Benjamin's message. This is life, not death. What you see written above is death. It's a person void of the true Spirit of God. A person hearing a god,but not THE GOD. We pray for you. We do not seek your destruction, but the work of destruction that you are doing we do condemn. We pray for your souls. Helen and Alan.

    No one would want to come forward with Janet Reno's and Larry Kings comments; look what you have done to Benjamin? You seek to slay him when he exposes a truth that only will help the Body of Christ Jesus to pray in a more directed manner. There are two other witnesses who are signing affidavits alone with Benjamin. Will you seek to destroy and defame their lives as well?

    Where is the time for ministry in a life when all they do is slander and defame people's good names. This cannot be the Spirit of Christ. This must be another spirit not of God.


    Mat 20:16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

    Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:


    1Jo 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

    ------The attack against a man of God exposing truth that could be detramental to Christians, ((ie: Larry King Live show with Janet R.)) is fruit in itself that it is the spirit of the antichrist working here.

    ------Just as is the attack that no one can hear God's voice. Show me a scripture where man does not hear God's voice anymore. I can show you thousands of scriptures where we can and show you more who have actually heard his voice in their Spirit and AUDIBLY. Why would a spirit of God, attack the very premise that people cannot hear God. This is the antichrist spirit as well.

    Know the fruit people of God. Weigh it, measure it, and then abolish it with the SWORD of the SPIRIT if it is from satan.

    Jud 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

    Daniel 11 v 33
    ------"They that understand among the people shall instruct many.

    Quote from Benjamin's book:

    The book of Daniel contains many prophecies in the form of visions and dreams revealing the events of the end of the age, and the kingdoms which would come to power preceeding the coming of the Lord. Much of the book is in symbolic form and required interpretation. Daniel himself inquired of the angel what would be the fulfillment of the visions that he saw. " I heard , but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? And he said go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end."

    THE BOOK IS SEALED UNTIL THE TIME OF THE END

    The angel responds to Daniel, telling him the prophecies contained in his visions are to be sealed untilo the time of the end, and that no further explanation would be given. It is little wonder that men of god who labored to read this ealed book over the many centuries of the church age failed to discern the true meaning. the book of Daniel is sealed, and it's true meaning has been kept secret until the time of the end. Only then will the book be opnned by the Lord, and it's true meaning revealed. The prophet Isaias speaks of the Lord sealing up prophecy saying: "and the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. Wherefore the Lord said, For as much as this people draw near to me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men: Therefore, behold, I will proceded to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wie men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid."

    The Lord declares in His word that He turns His face away from His people because of their sins...................

    This is the hour which has been appointed for the books to be unsealed, and for the men of wisdom to raise their voices in the wilderness declaring to the whole world: Make straight the wy of the Lord, for the Day of the Lord is at hand! These messengers of the Lord will comprise both men and women. For brevity, I shall refer to these messengers as men of wisdom throughout this text.

    when the prophecy teacers speak about the end times, they all miss one sign- those with insight will come and give understanding to many. These chosen ones have been prepared by God himself. Until now they have been hidden away, like David and his mighty men in the cave at Adullum. "And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me." These messengers have been prepared like Joseph, waiting in prison until the day of his shwoing unto Israel. The life of Joseph was filled iwth suffering and sorrow until the appointed time for His rising among the people. Joseph first had to be pruged with fire befor the Lord would use him. Rejection and repudiation, hatred and jealousy, false accusation and abandonment were all used by the Lord to purify Joseph for the hour of his ministry to the people.

    The men of wisdom, whom the Lord is now raising up, have walked the same path. This must be, fore whenever God chooses to use a man, He first must empty him. The fires endured by these broken ones have been intense. The Lord has prepared them "by the spirit of judgment, and by the spirit of burning. " Out of these flames, the Lord has forged a people for Himself with a faith made of steele. In their mouths, He has placed a sharpened swift sword. They shall teach the people the truth, and shall cast down all the altara of baal!

    " And they that undertand amondg the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days. Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them flatteries. And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: beause it is yet for a time appointed. Daniel 11:33-35.

    Why haven't the prophecy teachers told us to look for the men of wisdom? And where would you expect them to be found? these anointed messengers of the Lord will be found in the wilderness, even as John the Baptist came before the first coming of the Lord. Isaiah speaks of these messengers and where they will be found!

    THE VOICES IN THE WILDERNESS CRY OUT

    The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hil shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain: And the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it. Isaiah 40v3-5

    *end quote*

    This whole attact is so that people will not read what the Lord has told Benjamin, that lives will be sucked into satan's kingdom and lost forever!


    Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow. Isaiah 1
     
  6. Ceridwen018

    Ceridwen018 Well-Known Member

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    Cando,

    I'm sorry if my criticism offended you. What you have to say actually interests me greatly. Would you mind talking with me about Benjamin Baruch as well as explaining your own personal experiences with god to me?
     
  7. cando

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    Dear Friend,

    I don't take offense at anything. :mrgreen: It is the word of God that I speak in response to messages of death, for those who come behind and read. For those that accept the message and life of Christ, them therein lies freedom. Many will not choose, this is true.

    And if people truly seek God, and pray and fast and TRULY discontinue their sin, (which is what Benjamin Baruch preaches) God will give them discernment as to who is speaking falsehood, and who is not.

    Most of the world is in sin, even Christiandome, (sadly). There is only a small remnant who will even see Christ. A small remnant who put sin out and have chosen to live for HIM, not for themselves. Who walk in His love daily .

    So this job, is truly frustrating at times, yet, we know that who does come truly to Christ, and truly lives repentant lives constantly; that our efforts were not wasted. There is hope for anyone who wants to repent. Yet time is closing in this hour.

    When you go to the mall and you see a beautiful red corvette in the parking lot, you know that you've seen it. You step back and say, wow. (Unless you don't like Corvett's) Well, with God in my life, it is the same, to a point. (This is a really good plact to twist my words when you respond.) I know I've seen God, heard God, met with God, and I know it. No one can take that away from me, they can try, but deep down I know what I saw and I know it's real. How can you take that from someone? You can't.

    The efforts of satan to eradicate a true belief system is an effort with no outcome.

    This is Jesus Christ in my life. Anyone who comes against His word, you are an antichrist. Read about yourself in His word if you are interested. There is time, though, to find out who He (Jesus) is and live, if you so desire. :mrgreen: Most will not choose. Most will meet eternal punishment.

    Let me share something with you from 2 Thessalonians that we studied in Bible Study last night.


    Seeing [it is] a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;


    2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,


    2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:


    2Th 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;


    2Th 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.


    2Th 1:11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of [this] calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of [his] goodness, and the work of faith with power:


    2Th 1:12 That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him,


    2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

    2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.


    2Th 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?


    2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.


    2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth [will let], until he be taken out of the way.


    2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:


    2Th 2:9 [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,


    2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.


    2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:


    2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


    2Th 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:


    2Th 2:14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.


    2Th 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.


    2Th 2:16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given [us] everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,


    2Th 2:17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work. Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have [free] course, and be glorified, even as [it is] with you:


    2Th 3:2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all [men] have not faith.


    2Th 3:3 But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep [you] from evil.


    2Th 3:4 And we have confidence in the Lord touching you, that ye both do and will do the things which we command you.


    2Th 3:5 And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ.


    2Th 3:6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.


    2Th 3:7 For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;


    2Th 3:8 Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you:


    2Th 3:9 Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us.


    2Th 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.


    2Th 3:11 For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.


    2Th 3:12 Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.


    2Th 3:13 But ye, brethren, be not weary in well doing.


    2Th 3:14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.


    2Th 3:15 Yet count [him] not as an enemy, but admonish [him] as a brother.

    2Th 3:16 Now the Lord of peace himself give you peace always by all means. The Lord [be] with you all.


    2Th 3:17 The salutation of Paul with mine own hand, which is the token in every epistle: so I write.


    2Th 3:18 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ [be] with you all. Amen. [[[The second [epistle] to the Thessalonians was written from Athens.]]]


    Those who read Benjamin's Book will be blessed.
    Those who rise against it will be stopped, by God Almighty.

    I do not strive with anyone, I speak for the Lord and for His truth.
    His word is His truth.

    This is His word, not mine.

    I doubt that anyone who comes against people like Benjamin Baruch has any peace at all that the bible talks about.

    I have some beautiful teenagers, a great church family, I am incredibly happy. Making strides everyday to become a better person. When I go to sleep at night I know that I am right with God.


    It's a wonderful place to be.
     
  8. cando

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    And just to recap: I have heard the audible voice of God as well as Benjamin Baruch , and countless others in Christ.

    I head Him everyday, He leads and guides me. He speaks to my children.

    When I moved to my new townhouse about a year ago we were going through tons of pictures from my parents who had passed recently. My 13 year old son picked up a picture of a relative who has been dead for over 30 years, and said the Lord spoke to him when he touched the picture, "This man is in hell." It's a much longer story, but that impacted my child for Jesus in a positive way. Sin has a penalty. God wants my son saved and living right.

    http://www.benjaminbaruch.com
    http://www.thedayofthelordisathand.com
     
  9. Ceridwen018

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    Hi Cando,

    I had actually never heard of Benjamin before this thread appeared. I was a little disturbed at the quotes that justthefacts provided from his book of god talking to him. They didn't portray the merciful and loving god that I'm used to hearing about and it took me by surprise. Also, what about that whole Janet Reno fiasco? What is that about?
     
  10. cando

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    You are only disturbed :eek:mg: when you don't have the knowledge you need.
    Scriptural backing
    My people will die for lack of knowledge. Hosea



    >quote from forum
    (((Benjamin Baruch - Author of "The Day of the LORD is at Hand"
    >claims he is not a prophet, but insists that he hears the
    >audible voice of God - read these EXACT quotes of (Ben and God
    >speaking) taken from the book...))))
    >
    >“And when the Lord speaks to you, who can but prophesy? I have
    >been able to hear the voice of the Lord from my youth. I was
    >surprised to learn recently that the majority of Christians
    >have never heard His voice.” (BEN)

    GOD DOES SPEAK BUT ONLY TO HIS PEOPLE
    GOD IS LOUD (scriptures below)

    You arguing and striving with the imaginations of your own mind (with no scriptural backing) is useless!!!!!!!

    John 18 v 37 clears can clear up what your ITCHING EARS want to hear:

    Dear Friends who are opposing Benjamin Baruch and his ‘hearing from God.

    It is a pleasure and a task of love that I present to you some truth from God’s word that dispels every and anything that has been said by Ozark Barbie (Helen), and her husband Alan and their hateful website.

    It is clear in John 18 v 37 that only those of the truth hear His voice.

    ONLY THOSE OF THE TRUTH HEAR HIS VOICE

    This passage of scripture is found when the soilders come to take Jesus away to kill him.

    "Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth.

    Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice."

    We are all born into this world to do the works of Jesus, to do what he TELLS us to do. Again, those of you who HEAR nothing, are not of the truth, this is why you attack and lie.

    Jesus said for this cause I came into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth....(same scripture). Likewise, we (Benjamin Baurch) , myself, and countless others, are here, born to witness the truth. Only the truth will set you free, this is why you are captives, hating and lying about the elect of God, you have no truth in you.

    This is why Ozark Barbie (just the facts) (tell the truth) (linuxdude) (dukie) ( chaser) (she posts her hate with many names conspiring against God’s elect.) … this is why she does not believe that Benjamin hear’s God,

    *****because she herself cannot hear God*********
    ********because she is not of the truth****************

    So please pray for Ozark Barbie, (Helen) and her husband (Alan) that they would be saved, repent and come to know Jesus Christ.


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    If you would like to read Benjamin Baruch’s book Go to

    http://www.thedayofthelordisathand.com
    http://www.benjaminbaruch.com

    He preaches repentance, fasting, and to seek for yourself God’s word regarding the end of this age and regarding YOUR OWN SOUL.

    This book could save someone’s life!!!! ********************************
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    Scriptures of LIFE about the VOICE of God......

    Jhn 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

    Pro 8:4 Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice to the sons of man.

    It’s very interesting that some say they do not hear the voice of God….
    God’s word is very direct about those who don’t….hear
    Jhn 18:37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

    -That tells me directly that those who are not of the truth are the one’s saying that God does not speak to people!

    Jhn 10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.

    YOU ARE NOT A SHEEP of CHRIST
    You do not hear His voice
    ……….’’’’YOU’’’’ ARE THE WOLF. YOU HAVE JUST BEEN EXPOSED!


    First voice/latter voice…
    Exd 4:8 And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe thee, neither hearken to the voice of the first sign, that they will believe the voice of the latter sign.



    Jer 32:23 And they came in, and possessed it; but they obeyed not thy voice, neither walked in thy law; they have done nothing of all that thou commandedst them to do: therefore thou hast caused all this evil to come upon them:

    A dangerous place to be……………………………


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    Act And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.
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    Deception says that God only speaks softly…………….Here is the word of God!!!

    Voice of mighty thunderings
    Rev 19:5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.

    Rev 19:6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

    Rev 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

    Angel with a loud voice
    Rev 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

    Great voice
    Rev 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

    Loud voice
    Rev 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

    Rev 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

    Rev 7:10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

    Rev 8:13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!

    Act 10:13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
    Will you say as well that the Lord could not possibly have told Peter this?

    Act 1 But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath cleansed, call not thou common.

    God answers us; God answers Benjamin Baruch. God speaks to him. This is not strange or false, this is God’s way, His word. How He has relationship with us.

    http://www.thedayofthelordisathand.com
    http://www.benjaminbaruch.com


    Mar 1:11 And there came a voice from heaven, , Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

    Luk 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

    Mar And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.

    Hbr Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,…

    Jhn 3:29 He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.

    Jer 22:21 I spake unto thee in thy prosperity; thou saidst, I will not hear. This thy manner from thy youth, that thou obeyedst not my voice.

    Psa 106:25 But murmured in their tents, hearkened not unto the voice of the LORD.

    Jer 25:30 Therefore prophesy thou against them all these words, and say unto them, The LORD shall roar from on high, and utter his voice from his holy habitation; he shall mightily roar upon his habitation; he shall give a shout, as they that tread , against all the inhabitants of the earth.

    Isa 28:23 Give ye ear, and hear my voice; hearken, and hear my speech.



    Isa 6:8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here I; send me.

    Psa 103:20 Bless the LORD, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word.

    Jer 7:23 But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.

    Jer 1 For I earnestly protested unto your fathers in the day I brought them up out of the land of Egypt, unto this day, rising early and protesting, saying, Obey my voice.

    Hbr 12:26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.



    Rev 1 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

    Rev 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

    Rev 1 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

    Act 2 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

    Is Saul a false prophet too because He heard God’s voice?
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    >Baruch, who also claims that God has helped him with the stock
    >market, also claims to have witnessed JANET RENO on LARRY KING
    >LIVE give her definition of what a CULT is. Upon
    >investigation, this supposed interview with Reno NEVER
    >HAPPENED and has been documented as a HOAX and URBAN LEGEND -
    >Even the 700 Club aired a TV show about this RENO URBAN LEGEND
    >being just that - AN URBAN LEGEND.
    >
    >Yet, the the prophet Benjamin Baruch claims he witnessed this,
    >yet out of MILLIONS of viewers, no one else has stepped
    >forward.
    >
    >What more evidence is needed to expose a false prophet? Or can
    >a prophet make these false allegations and still be a TRUE
    >MESSENGER?

    The only thing going on here is that the EYEWITNESS (of which there are 2 more coming forth) account contradicts the official report, ...

    No one has PROOF that he lied!!!

    No one can prove that I did not see a kangaroo go down my street at 3am in the morning. Anyone who tries to is doing so with no proof!
    IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE

    NO ONE has proved that Benjamin Baruch lied!!
    No one ever can.

    You can't prove something that never occurred.
    You can't prove he lied when he didn't.

    These attacks come from 'supposed' Christians, go back to the verse in John : it is PROOF and all that you need that 1. there is no love in these """Christians"""" to attack Benjamin and 2. that only those of the TRUTH hear God. Which again, leaves them, according to the word of God, as Not Christ followers at all. All according to God's word, not my word, not Ben's word.
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    May the peace of God be with you all.
     
  11. Ceridwen018

    Ceridwen018 Well-Known Member

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    No one can prove whether or not you saw a kangaroo go down your street because you were the sole witness, this is true. However, in Benjamin's case, there were other people involved which could prove him false, namely Janet Reno, Larry King, the camera and production crews, etc. He claims that all of these people were somewhere they were not, doing something they were not. Therefore in this instance, he has been caught in a lie.
     
  12. KBC1963

    KBC1963 Active Member

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    Cando,
    I am impressed by your use of scriptures to back up what you say and I thought for a moment that "hey it looks like I was here already" but this is great to see another person using the bible for its intended purpose;

    2Ti 3:16
    All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
    2Ti 3:17
    That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

    Ro 15:4
    For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope

    I would ask that you might search through the forums and look at some of my posts here mayhaps we have a common understanding of things.

    I will investigate Benjamin Baruch seeing as I have never heard of him.
     
  13. cando

    cando Member

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    kbc1963 I will check them out. definately. thanks.
     
  14. cando

    cando Member

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    No one can prove whether or not you saw a kangaroo go down your street because you were the sole witness, this is true. However, in Benjamin's case, there were other people involved which could prove him false, namely Janet Reno, Larry King, the camera and production crews, etc. He claims that all of these people were somewhere they were not, doing something they were not. Therefore in this instance, he has been caught in a lie.

    Helen
    ****I'm sure they were all paid off********* lol
    Janet Reno surely has power and funds to do so.
    Maybe you should concentrate your energy on making Followers of Jesus instead of crucifying them. Your soul is at risk here. Seems all you have time to do is hurt good folks. I'll be praying for you.
     
  15. KBC1963

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    Hmmm it appears I have lost something in this thread but oh well I guess i'll ask, who is Helen? Cando you appear to be answering Ceridwen018, but.... I didnt' notice a Helen anywhere in this post. maybe speed reading is not the best way to run through some things.
     
  16. Ceridwen018

    Ceridwen018 Well-Known Member

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    Cando,

    I don't mean to be pushing something that perhaps doesn't really matter, but it is very dangerous to make outrageous claims like 'Janet Reno paid all of them off' just to save Benjamin's skin. Truth be told, the show is called 'Larry King Live', meaning that it is a live show. If Janet really appeared, it would have been impossible to keep people from knowing about it because everyone would have already seen. Do you understand that? What is the more logical sounding explanation anyway? That Janet was involved in a huge urban legend conspiracy because for some unknown reason she didn't want people to see the show, or that Benjamin was just mistaken?
     
  17. YACOOB BEN YESHU

    YACOOB BEN YESHU New Member

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    All the Glory and Honor and Power and Strength to the ONE ELOHIM OF ISRAEL.

    JESUS is the Messiah

    Shalom,

    Whatever you say and whatever you do , do it for the Glory of the ONE GOD of Israel

    Tribulation has just begun.

    The Image of the beast is WORK TIME AND FAITH
    for the love of money is the root of all evil
    Illuminati is the WORK sign symbol of one us dollar
    People everday busy for Money
    Religion is a religion of money

    The Doctrine of Trinity is the Sign of BABYLON
    Babylon will Fall


    There is no other G-D but the G-D of Israel
    Worship him in spirit and truth.

    Dont worry be happy The Lion of Judah is roaring.
    After the appointed time together with the TWELVE TRIBE of Israel
    They will travel across from nation to nation.


    Read this . Isaiah 48

    Always Trust The G-D of Israel..

    Your Brother Yacoob
     
  18. YACOOB BEN YESHU

    YACOOB BEN YESHU New Member

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    Feathers in Hair World's Tallest Hobbit

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    I'm with Ceridwen on this. I've never heard of this Benjamin person. I'm curious about the Janet Reno thing, too.
     
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