I combined your conversation with Ken since its seems to be interrelated to what I'm saying.
know I am right to believe in Jehovah and Jesus Christ.
I know that I am changed
I know that my eyes were opened.
I know I am a better person for believing.
I don't know why.
I am saying no, I don't know that.
I don't understand these replies. You are a theist so you believe in god and jesus christ. Your life has been changed because you believe in god and jesus christ.
First you don't know why, then you say it's based on your own criteria, then you say your belief is based on jesus christ.
If belief is based on knowledge (one needs knowledge to come to the belief, I think you said) then you must know some god exist in order for you to believe in him and christ, right?
Wouldn't your beliefs be confirmed to knowledge based on the facts that you have changed because of your belief in god and christ?
If your life had not changed, I'd ask why would you believe in something you don't know exists. Since your life has changed, I understand why you believe in god and christ but then to say you
still don't know god exists makes me wonder if you really believed your life has changed or is this experienced based on a different criteria (like your own?) rather than jehovah and christ?
I am a theist. Do you smoke reefer?
Sarcasm? Please be direct and to the point.
I do know that I am changed and a better person etc. I am saying that I do not trust that God did
If your criteria is based on jesus christ, why would he not be the one who has changed you?
You said either god exists or he does not. Since you are a theist, you believe he does. Then you say you don't know he exists and that he trust that he has changed you but you don't trust god changed you.
Why believe in jesus and god if you (
edit: don't) believe and trust god or jesus changed you?
John 3:8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but
you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit
The holy spirit comes from christ, right? The form of a dove and what rose the apostles in the pentecost? (aka spirit of jesus?)
To believe in God because you know that God exists eliminates faith and faith is a fruit of The Spirit and God is The Spirit. God is Spirit and those worshipping must do it in spirit and truth.
John 4:24
When you know god exists, your belief in him disappears and you have faith-the
trust in things that you cannot see but you know it exists anyway.
It is based on trust that what you believe
is true/fact/knowledge. If you take away knowledge, you have what they call blind faith or doubt. Nothing wrong with either. Just the whole bible says god
does exists and to know he does is a huge act of faith. If you don't know god exists, then the act of faith is missing because you can't put trust in something you don't know exists. That's why it's a belief not faith and definitely not knowledge.
I'm just sharing my observation by this conversation. Please don't take it personal.
