Believers, Debate, or Discussion

[Fool]

Why would a believer, not necessarily a theist and/or atheist, broadcast their beliefs and not believe their beliefs should be debatable? Not open for discussion?

Why proselytize or broadcast if it's not open for debate?

 

[LuisDantas]

Pretty good question.

My best guess is that it would come from some sort of expectation of acceptance, presumed respect, and/or attention for those beliefs.

 

[stvdv]

Why would a believer, not necessarily a theist and/or atheist, broadcast their beliefs and not believe their beliefs should be debatable? Not open for discussion?

Why proselytize or broadcast if it's not open for debate?

Well, that's easy for me. I like to listen to what others "share" with me. I don't need to "debate"

IF Shared info is good
THEN I say "thank you" and apply it in life
ELSE I say "thank you"

 

[Fool]

Well, that's easy for me. I like to listen to what others "share" with me. I don't need to "debate"

IF it's good, I say "thank you" and apply it in life
IF not good, I say "thank you"

That doesn't really respond to why "they" might be doing so.

Just tells me what you would do in response.

Honestly no one really needs to know what someone else believes unless they are seeking validation/opposition. Beliefs in something are not necessarily real except the belief itself.

So why broadcast an opinion?

character is developed through evolution and adaptation to struggle. There is no spiritual/physical growth without challenge.

 

[Vinayaka]

Pretty good question.

My best guess is that it would come from some sort of expectation of acceptance, presumed respect, and/or attention for those beliefs.

An excellent best guess, I think. It could also be as simple as needing attention.

 

[dybmh]

Why proselytize or broadcast if it's not open for debate?

seeking validation and recognition from others for their self-perceived religious/spiritual accomplishments

 

[MikeF]

Why would a believer, not necessarily a theist and/or atheist, broadcast their beliefs and not believe their beliefs should be debatable? Not open for discussion?

Why proselytize or broadcast if it's not open for debate?

If one were indoctrinated or conditioned to a particular belief, and a primary element of that belief was that it was unquestionable, then one might be ill-equipped to handle challenge once outside the sheltered environment of their indoctrination. I assume they have a strong compulsion to broadcast their belief because it is an integral requirement of the belief that it be accepted by everyone.

 

[stvdv]

There is no spiritual/physical growth without challenge.

Is "virtual debate" a "real challenge" in life?

 

[Fool]

Is "virtual debate" a "real challenge" in life?

definitely can be spiritual=mental. physical no

 

[stvdv]

There is no spiritual/physical growth without challenge

Is "virtual debate" a "real challenge" in life?

definitely can be spiritual=mental.
physical no

Spiritual (beyond the mind)
Mental
Physical (below the mind)

 

[Fool]

Spiritual (beyond the mind)
Mental
Physical (below the mind)

Not in Hebrew. Spirit and mind literally mean the same thing. Nor in the English language. They are literally synonyms

 

[stvdv]

Not in Hebrew. Spirit and mind literally mean the same thing. Nor in the English language. They are literally synonyms

Yes, Sanskrit is much more precise when it comes to wording Spiritual concepts

 

[Fool]

Yes, Sanskrit is much more precise when it comes to wording Spiritual concepts

when i start to have conversations, discussions with non-mindful beings, I'll take that in to consideration. spirit can also mean will but that doesn't work without consciousness, or a mind.

brahman is consciousness; which literally mind is a synonym for in the english language..

i've studied a bit of, kabalah, alchemy, judaism, buddhism, and christianity. i've never heard of spirit beyond mind.

 

[dybmh]

i've studied a bit of, kabalah, alchemy, judaism, buddhism, and christianity. i've never heard of spirit beyond mind

Quoting your signature: "as above so below". If there is a spirit/mind below, there is a spirit/mind above. Above and beyond In kabbalah it's called Mochin, I think I've mentioned it before.

 

[stvdv]

i've never heard of spirit beyond mind.

"Spirituality is beyond the mind"

Meaning:
Silence the mind (beyond the mind) is the key to the Spiritual Realms.

So, first purify all sense organs and body, mind, emotions. Gradually the thoughts (mind) reduce. And you are truly free

 

[Fool]

"Spirituality is beyond the mind"

Meaning:
Silence the mind (beyond the mind) is the key to the Spiritual Realms.

So, first purify all sense organs and body, mind, emotions. Gradually the thoughts (mind) reduce. And you are truly free

Silence is obvious to the mind. It isn't beyond.

Hear that absence of the 7th? That is the octave, the symbol of infinity.

Revelation 8:1

 

[stvdv]

Silence is obvious to the mind. It isn't beyond

Trying to find faults I see, and not even succesful. Well good luck experiencing Silence

 

[Fool]

Trying to find faults I see, and not even succesful. Well good luck experiencing Silence

The pot calling the kettle black.

 

[stvdv]

The pot calling the kettle black.

No.

You asked for help, as you didn't understand. I explained. You tried finding faults

 

[stvdv]

Pretty good question.

My best guess is that it would come from some sort of expectation of acceptance, presumed respect, and/or attention for those beliefs.

I've been wondering for myself too, why do I share things?

When I know the answer, I stop sharing. As long as I am not 100% convinced I search and share.

For me it is because deep down "I know I need to know" to solve my "lack of experiencing Bliss", which is my true state

Hence I keep searching till I have found it. Though sharing is not needed. So, I think I share, as to avoid what I really need to do, to experience Bliss. Sharing gives a little bit of bliss (good feeling). Others use drugs. But both don't solve the problem, which is "lack of Bliss"