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Behavior and Belief
- Thread starter Fool
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wolves in sheep's clothing
No.
Sorry for the long reply.
Sorry for the long reply.
Viker
Häxan
paradox
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Actually self's appearance did not change at all since there is no change in behavior.
The point being, my behaviors define who I am, not my beliefs.
Viker
Häxan
So if someone gets "saved" they're going to still go out on the town with a bottle of Scotch, a couple of hookers and curse God all night? Okay.
How did you find how I spend my Saturday nights?!
Viker
Häxan
I have spies. Ravens and crows are everywhere watching everyone. They keep me informed. They're better than news agencies, too.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, if that person is going for a con, it might be the case.
I suspect most adopt a belief system which supports their behavior.
Generally IMO, a person changes their beliefs when they find their behavior is no longer supported by it.
Some will however stick with a belief system because they've been convinced they have to. They accept their belief as the truth.
Though I think there will always be some unhappiness in this arrangement. One may feel they are unable to live up to some obligation of behavior required by their beliefs.
I see men telling other men what God obligates them to do with no guarantees that they are right about their claims.
paradox
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I didn't say that.
What I said is that your behaviors define you rather than what you believe.
Therefore if you go out on the town with a bottle of Scotch, a couple of hookers and curse God all night and believe you are "saved", this means your behavior define who you are not what you believe.
God judges by deeds (or behaviors) not by beliefs.
Viker
Häxan
Beliefs have no influence on behavior? And so a change in belief has no affect on one's deeds or behavior?
Pfft, that's crazy.
*Nonchalantly pushes fuzzy bunny slippers under the bed*
Often times a new belief system just comes with a whole new set of rationalizations.
God/church sanctioned rationalizations can be particularly dangerous.
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
Never watch youtube then?
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
Greengrocer's apostrophe outrage.
paradox
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Changing our mind is theoretical, changing our behaviors is practical.
In other words, it's easy to say but hard to do.
Did your beliefs change your behavior?
Viker
Häxan
Yes. No more running. No more hiding. No more fear of monsters. No more groveling. No more begging. No more self hate. No more self doubt. No more self pity.
My beliefs helped shape who I am today. I found them and they assured me I can be this.
paradox
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OK I get your point, but what you have enumerated are mental states not human behaviors.
We are talking about "visible" or "external" behaviors, in this context primarily social interactions with others.
Belief systems or religions are kind of "burden" on human behavior because all beliefs demand social change in one way or another.
If there is no change in behavior then belief is in vain.
What is the benefit of belief a lone?