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Discussion in 'Evolution Vs. Creationism' started by Power Stone, Jun 28, 2020.

  1. Power Stone

    Power Stone Unknown Member

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    IMG_0204.GIF For people who believe in God do they also believe in the Big Bang and evolution? if not when do they think the world began?
     
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    Yes. Evolution is God creating.
     
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    they guess Adam and eve could've been made 50 to 200,000 years ago. But why did God have to make 2 people when there Were Homo sapiens in droves on the earth already evolving? Something seems weird
     
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    The idea is that Adam and Eve are simply metaphorical representations of the first true homo-sapiens to evolve.
     
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    With a whole metaphorical lineage too I guess. Then I guess the whole Bible is metaphorical
     
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    Yes. There is something weird. I don't think the bible is meant to be read that way. Adam and Eve are symbolic figures that represent humankind. They are not a separate species, but representative of homo sapiens, biologically, but more importantly existentially, or dealing with what it means to be a self-aware human being.

    Don't read the bible as a book of science. It'll just confuse you. :)
     
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    Yes, the Bible is metaphorical, along with human imaginations of what the world was like before having a scientific advantage. You'll find it's not all that accurate when it comes to technical details about the earth, or human history and evolution. They simply did not have that advantage we do today. Some parts are historical, other parts are myths and legends.
     
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    from your perspective it is a science book. So what does Jesus supposed to symbolize?
     
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    What do you mean? No, from my perspective bible is not scientific. Not at all. I do not believe that, and encourage others to not confuse themselves, thinking it is.

    A lot. :) Too much for a short response.
     
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    Yes, sensible and scientifically literate believers in God recognise that the big bang and evolution theories are the best models we have in their fields of science.
     
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    Why do so many people believe that Jesus actually existed but not Adam and Eve?
     
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    There is historical evidence for the existence of Jesus, independent of the gospels.

    P.S. Details here: Historical Jesus - Wikipedia
     
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    There are historical markers that a real man named Jesus existed. There are no such evidences for a historical Adam and Eve. They are mythological in nature, meant to stand in symbolically for humankind in a storyline.
     
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    Well you told me that Adam and eve symbolize the first Homo sapiens which is scientific aint it?
     
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    Oh really like what?
     
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    Read the link. That's why I added it.

    Josephus and Tacitus are independent sources. Tacitus is especially relevant as he is negative about Jesus, so it is unlikely that the text from him has been forged, later on, by Christians.
     
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    Have you introduced yourself to @Frank Goad? You seem very similar to one another and it is nice when a friendship can be forged on a forum.
     
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    For Christians who believe in the big bang and evolution, much of it pretty much has to be.
     
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    I've also heard it argued that Adam and Eve in the bible don't represent the first human beings, but rather the first Hebrews. And that the origin stories of other religions represent he fist Egyptians or the first Babylonians and that none of them were originally interpreted to mean the origins of the entire human race.
     
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