Flat Earth Kyle
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Was there ever a time when God existed as a singular being surrounded by absolute nothingness?
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Deja vu.
outhouse
Atheistically
Nope.
Evolved along with people's fears, wants, needs and desire to answer questions he didn't know about nature.
When cultures evolved, so did these beliefs.
ben_jamin23
Member
God is infinite and eternal. She has and will always exist as a singular being. She is everything, everyone, everywhere, every moment, in short God is all there is. It is impossible for anything to exist outside of God. Nothingness does not surround God, but is an apect her her being and essence; as is everything else, including you, me, everyone and all.
Separation from all there is, is an illusion we cannot yet reconcile with, but ironically,without it we we could not exist and experience ourselves as something 'other than'
That would be pantheism/panentheism. And if there ever was a time when God existed as a singular being surrounded by absolute nothingness and "created" the universe then the universe would either have to have been created from nothing or from herself.
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jtartar
Well-Known Member
ArtieE,
It seems to me that your philosophrasting, is extreme dereism. This is unless you can point to, at least ONE place in the Holy Scriptures that even hint at the idea that Jehovah God is female
Have you ever read the scriptures where God, Himself says that He is a man, Ex 15:3, Deut 6:15-17. Before you can prove anything, your premises must be on a sound foundation. Where is one place in the Holy Scriptures that says that Joejovah is female, or one place where a female adjective is used for HIM???
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Yeah!
I just copied ben_jamin23. ben_jamin23 says "her".
""G-d has no body, no genitalia, therefore the very idea that G-d is male or female is patently absurd. We refer to G-d using masculine terms simply for convenience's sake, because Hebrew has no neutral gender; G-d is no more male than a table is." Judaism 101. "The fact that we always refer to God as 'He' is also not meant to imply that the concept of sex or gender applies to God." Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan, The Aryeh Kaplan Reader, Mesorah Publications (1983), p. 144" Gender of God - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I just call him/her/it whatever the person in the post I'm answering call him/her/it. From now on I'll simply call it it.
outhouse
Atheistically
Well you are factually wrong.
Do you have any evidence of this?
I do, I have evidence he was male, not only that he was the father of himself if you want to follow the mythology back far enough.
outhouse
Atheistically
Everyone is entitled to personal faith.
Trying to prove this faith by unsubstantiated claims, is where your getting into trouble.
Not only that, your now perverting someone else's mythology by calling their god a female
about 9:30 this morning I posted this piece of crap:
~Outside of the natural void that once contained the singular and only original singularity,
there was the only and supreme Panentheist, called the Creator.
From Him came all, including the container that held Him, the ultimate Cosmos.
And He was called the immaculate incarnate god of all gods.
He was called 'I Am what I will be', Moses called Him 'God', and wrote a book about Him !
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And that's as far as I can go, someone else have any answers ?
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Just kidding......I guess !
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In answer to Ben's question about what 'Panentheist' was.
Boy......plag,plag,plag.......and crap
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'mud
~Outside of the natural void that once contained the singular and only original singularity,
there was the only and supreme Panentheist, called the Creator.
From Him came all, including the container that held Him, the ultimate Cosmos.
And He was called the immaculate incarnate god of all gods.
He was called 'I Am what I will be', Moses called Him 'God', and wrote a book about Him !
~
And that's as far as I can go, someone else have any answers ?
~
Just kidding......I guess !
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In answer to Ben's question about what 'Panentheist' was.
Boy......plag,plag,plag.......and crap
~
'mud
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outhouse
Atheistically
Ancient mens imagination from the looks of it, perverted by some modern men
You're joking right? Go back to my post number 9 and read the quote and follow the link.
LOL!
"As one rabbi explained it to me, G-d has no body, no genitalia, therefore the very idea that G-d is male or female is patently absurd. We refer to G-d using masculine terms simply for convenience's sake, because Hebrew has no neutral gender; G-d is no more male than a table is. Although we usually speak of G-d in masculine terms, there are times when we refer to G-d using feminine terms. The Shechinah, the manifestation of G-d's presence that fills the universe, is conceived of in feminine terms, and the word Shechinah is a feminine word"
Judaism 101: The Nature of G-d
outhouse
Atheistically
Wrong, rabbi has no credibility at all.
You need to look at the origins of the Israelite gods. El and Yahweh. early on Yahweh was defined as man, as a son, as being married, and having genitals.
But your severe ignorance of how gods are defined by man, and not know who and when these concepts evolved at which time, has led you to be blind to real history.
"The Catechism of the Catholic Church #239 specifically states that "God is neither man nor woman: he is God".[16][17]" Gender of God - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Aren't Catholics men then?
outhouse
Atheistically
Glad your quoting wiki, then I will use it on you.
History of ancient Israel and Judah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Israelite monotheism evolved gradually out of pre-existing beliefs and practices of the ancient world.[76] The religion of the Israelites of Iron Age I, like the Canaanite faith from which it evolved [77] and other ancient Near Eastern religions, was based on a cult of ancestors and worship of family gods (the "gods of the fathers").[78] Its major deities were not numerous El, Asherah, and Yahweh, with Baal as a fourth god, and perhaps Shamash (the sun) in the early period.[79] By the time of the early Hebrew kings, El and Yahweh had become fused and Asherah did not continue as a separate state cult,
God also had a wife in case you were ignorant of that as well.
outhouse
Atheistically
Not credible.
And gender is talking about current beliefs followed. Not an actual definition of god, as I told you beliefs have changed in different cultures
outhouse
Atheistically
Did God Have a Wife? - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
ancient Israelite religion:
namely that the Israelite god of antiquity (before 600 BCE), Yahweh, had a consort, that her name was Asherah, and that she was part of the Canaanite pantheon.
ancient Israelite religion:
namely that the Israelite god of antiquity (before 600 BCE), Yahweh, had a consort, that her name was Asherah, and that she was part of the Canaanite pantheon.