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  1. I am more of a Seller of my Ideas, I go around spreading ideas and convincing people.

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  2. I am more of a Buyer of ideas, I don't sell or talk about my ideas or interpret much and preach .

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  3. I do both pretty equally! (Discuss your Buys & Sales)

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  4. I find myself neither buying nor selling, I contribute nothing.

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  1. DagonVarunaMitraApolloZan

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    Nyarlathotep, a smooth sales person for an Unknown Cause:

    Hello! Thank you for your interest! I am here to sell you Anything! Whatever you like to do, you can do it!

    Have you ever wondered what the meaning of life is or should be and about your limited lifespan and life expectancy? Have you ever just wanted to "be" or feel like something? Have you ever wanted to take a stance and make a stand?

    Well here is your chance! Select as many as you like! Who cares! Do you think you'll have to answer for it? Then select which is best! Can't figure it out? Then select whichever you feel matches up to you already!

    Atheism: This little beauty can be yours! All it takes is denying that any such thing as an all-powerful intelligence deliberately controls what you experience and witness! All you have to say to be an Atheist is the first part of the Muslim Shahada, There is no god (illah)!

    Deluxe "Robust" Atheist: Congratulations on becoming an Atheist! Are you ready for the next step in Atheist technology? Denial of True Sentience of Any Sort Whatsoever and thinking that everything is "Hard Deterministically" causational so that really you're just a completely randomly occurring anamoly like everything else, with no importance, and if anyone or anything at all seems to care about you, that really just comes down to the luck of the draw entirely, as even what you turned out to be or ended up doing was due to a chain of circumstances long out of your control which got you to be born the way you were and do every little thing and make every little thing you did happen exactly the way it did. Wow! You wear it well! Furthermore, nothing has any intrinsic meaning or value and the only thing which might determine such meaning or value is only an illusion, nothing has any purpose, meaning, or value, except maybe a little sense pleasure in some way, but that doesn't mean its anything more meaningful than that! You're like a leaf blowing in the wind, and when you die, you're totally dead and gone, and there is no being made of any information which is likely to ever be able to save you, whatever "save" might mean to you! Ooo, I like it!

    Judaism: Like Tradition? Like History? Like Community? Want to be part of a millennia long tradition stretching back to the very first human? Join Judaism! With Judaism, you can build confidence that you are following a Divine Authority and Law that Rules Over and is Superior to All the Nations and their varieties of cultures and religions! You too can be Chosen and belong to the ones called Yehudi (Praised)! All it takes is visiting a synagogue or Jewish community center or researching online about conversion! Learn the Commandments and the Oral Torah and explanations and understandings and start your way towards the Throne of the One and Only God, Adonay!

    Ultra Judaism: Want more Jewishness in your life? Then be your own Ultra Orthodox or Jewish Reconstructionist or Extreme Hasidic Jew A.S.A.P! You will study the Tanakh and other writings daily, extensively, absorbed in the Word of God and his wisely guides Sages and find perhaps the Very Mysteries of Existence and Your Duty in This World and the World To Come Becoming Clear! If you do not think that the Tanakh is referring to the Real God, and is God's Guidance to Our People, then Please Stay Away, For Your Own Sake and Ours! We don't want you and your ideas polluting our community or minds, and you should be expelled!

    Shia Islam: Have you ever felt that there might be Mystical Knowledge just waiting out there for you somewhere? Have you ever felt that maybe special things, like rare treasures, have been kept away from the eyes or understanding of the many? With the help of the family of the Guided Ones, You can Begin to Unlock the Miraculous World of the Subtle and Sublime through the Prophet of Islam and His Family and those who were guided aright and told the inner secrets of True Surrender to God (Khudah)!

    Sunni Islam: One of the Most Popular Online Multiplayer Worlds, With New Players Joining Constantly, Al-Islam is your Ticket Straight to Paradise! Find it difficult to swallow all that Jesus business? Not quite liking the Biblical stories but still wanting to be part of the action? Want to have a clean buttocks and genitals at almost all times? Feel like Christianity and the other religions are a lot of talk without much Action? That the other religions just don't have enough of something to do? Feel a vacuum in your heart throughout the day and no sense of duty or purpose? Well! Islam may be your answer! Simply Follow the 5 Pillars and read the Qur'an. You can even supposedly convert just by saying "Ashadhu'unla'illaha'ill'lil'lah wa ashadhu unna MoohummudurRa'sool Uhlluh" with your right index finger raised if you can, especially in front of two witnesses, probably ideally Muslim witnesses. Many believers who have read the Qur'an ( which you can read at www.islamawakened.com/quran ) report a strange sensation like a "weight being lifted off their chest" when they say it even in the comfort and privacy of their own homes, and you'll be saying it a lot more! More than once in every prayer set you'll be performing throughout many parts of your waking day! This occupies your time only slightly but constantly returns one to a sense of religiousity and thoughts of God and makes it a little more difficult and possibly guilt inducing to do wrong when you either have just purified yourself and worshipped God directly or are about to!

    Macho Muslim: If you want be a Macho Muslim, All you have to do is read the Qur'an, and come to the understanding that God, an unseeable all-powerful intelligence literally controls every instance of your experience. Very similar to Deluxe "Robust" Atheism except that God is the Sole Intelligence ( See Occassionalism ) ( See Berkeley's Idealism ) instantly and consciously and deliberately generating every nuance of whatever you are experiencing, thinking, reactinf, doing and deciding. There is no escape or true "self" even except whatever you are made to see or think you are in a moment which can be effortlessly changed, total control over your experience and all experience and information, everything you think is solid is illusory and easily changeable, You Know Nothing and Are Nothing, just whatever God wants and says and makes you BE! ( See Descartes Evil Demon ). There is no other force or conditioning factor and God is unconditioned, can not be influenced but is influencing everything and is utterly present behind all you see and go through inside and out, directly and immediately, closer to you than your own jugular vein. All the religions and all history belongs to God, and so the Macho Muslim finds God and reminders everywhere and makes reminders of everything they can, even words on a shampoo bottle, and their obsession with God is total, denying no God, accepting All as potential reminders of The One Unseeable Power who Generates All Experience and Information but is Not Information and so can never be experienced as a form or image truly, and all images and forms are Its creations!

    Christianity: Ecstatic Spiritual Love and Intense Emotions Await You In Opening Your Heart To God who was Born Wholly A Man named Jesus who was Christ (meaning "annointed"), the Universal Sovereign and Rightful King of Everything! Take the namr of Jesus! Jesus who is your only hope and savior as the standards of the Almighty are so unattainable by your iwn efforts, you need to accept the truth, that you can't do it, and Jesus who is God Incarnate is Your Only Hope To Escape the Harsh Judgment and Fiery Hell of Your God and My God, Your Father, who is also known as The Son, Jesus, the Only Begotten Son and Incarnation of the True and Only God, The God who Walked Before Moses and Walked in the Garden With Our Sinful Ancestor and Forefather Adam who with his wife Eve introduced into this existence all manner of suffering and evil by disobeying God's direct Commands! Yet, God relented, and like a Father might lovingly have Mercy upon his own children that He Loves, He might Become One of Them, Authentically and Wholly, To Suffer as They Do and Know Their Suffering as a Hopeless and Helpless Human Might, and then through his sacrifice, save all that may accept His great miracle and gesture. Escape the debauchery of the worldly life, and dedicate your life to following and imitating God as a Man, as Jesus! Then You Too May be Glorified and Attain Divinization, Apotheosis, Theosis!

    Buddhism: Mankind is lost as a dog chasing its own tail! One Man among many, saw the error of the dog, by looking in another direction altogether, within! Siddhartha Gautama known as The Buddha and Shakyamuni and Tathagata was the Savior The World Needed, One Person, Just Like You, to WAKE UP! The Awakened One then with all his faculties sharp penetrated through the layers of delusion and all important and pragmatic mysteries became unraveled and clear to navigate! Do you want a mind that is clear? Do you want to see the world for what it is? Then let the Great Doctor, The Original Psycho-Therapist, Help You through a record of his sayings and deeds, and you might just be able to escape or at least start your ascent and escape from a life flushed down the drain endlessly like Sisyphus and his suffering plight in this Tartarus of endless and repeating highs and lows! Get a clear head (even on top if you shave off your hair!) with Buddhism!

    Salvic Buddhisms: Let the Cosmic Buddha and All Well-Intended Beings Save You! You can be saved within this lifetime! You can make your way to any of the great destinations existing for you based on where you focus and direct your prayers and intentions! From there, you may be able to cleanse your karmic residue even further so that, if you desire, you may ascend even further or otherwise assist other sentient beings! You can start right away! Simply say Aaahmeeeethoooohbfuaaaaaaaah, and you will immediately start as you repeat it in long low tones resonating and vibrating that things will begin correcting themselves. Then learn all that pleases you and is intended towards your salvation from among the Mahayana Sutras and commentaries!

    There are many more philosophies and ways of life established by people, can you imagine what their sales pitches may be? Write out the rest if you please, or sell your own brand of thought and action here!

    I've bought most of them myself!

    You can even be inspired by systems in fictional materials regarding fictional "Universes" or "Worlds", such as the Sith Way or the Way of the Jedi!

    Who says you can only have one? You might just have one life and one chance, are you going to waste it worrying about people scoffing at you or thinking you are silly? They are dying too! Don't let their frowns scare you away from being happy while you can be! They are clowns with frowns! Honk Honk!

    So the greatest thing you can be from me is Permission, and Freedom, Ma'Liberte!!!



    Good and enjoyable music isn't usually played with one tone and note ongoing!
     
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  2. Israel Khan

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    This. Is. BRILLIANT!!!

    Should be in the jokes section.

    My favourite quotes:

    Ultra Judaism: "Want more Jewishness in your life?"

    Sunni Islam:"Not quite liking the Biblical stories but still wanting to be part of the action? "
    " You can even supposedly convert just by saying "Ashadhu'unla'illaha'ill'lil'lah wa ashadhu unna MoohummudurRa'sool Uhlluh" with your right index finger raised if you can, especially in front of two witnesses, probably ideally Muslim witnesses"

    Buddhism: "Mankind is lost as a dog chasing its own tail! One Man among many, saw the error of the dog, by looking in another direction altogether, within!"

    Too bad I don't desire to sign up to any of them!
     
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    Seventh Day Adventism: "Have I got a bridge with snake oil to sell you. The snake that produced the oil deceived the world and wants you dead."
     
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    Spiritualism: "The sales pitch is in my $50 book."
     
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  5. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Hihg Intellajence Kwoshunt.
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    I invite more people to become a Bokononist.
    Advantages....
    - No study required.
    - Very belief free.
    - Fun jargon.
    - It's designed to make you happy.
     
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    Hinduism: "Frankly, we don't care whether you join or don't join. Who do you think we are?"
     
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    New Age: "I feel a deep connection with you. Do you have 15 minutes for me to radiate your being?"
     
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    This one is meant with all due respect, and I really hope it doesn't offend the Baha'is here because I do think they are an important part of everything, but...

    Baha'i faith: "Pitching our religion could be the crux of it. We'll go ahead and try it, but keep in mind just because I have opinions, you have a whole different set of opinions, well they are all right. The only way they could be wrong in this time, without a new incarnation, is if the Baha'i house says otherwise. So, I will teach you what it's like to worship Krishna, God, and several others."
     
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    Somebody go tell Wizanda the Swap-meet is open.
     
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    This vaguely reminds me of the book The Phantom Tollbooth.
     
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    Sounds suspiciously like "Everybody's Heretic" that I saw on a "Wanted poster" in the Post Office.
     
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  12. DagonVarunaMitraApolloZan

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    What the heck is a Bokononist Revvy? *looks at the camera weirdly*

    I'd like to hear more!
     
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    Revoltingest Hihg Intellajence Kwoshunt.
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    Cat's Cradle - Wikipedia
    Excerpted.....
    Bokononism[edit]
    The semi-humorous religion secretly practiced by the people of San Lorenzo, called Bokononism, encompasses concepts unique to the novel. Many of these concepts use words from the San Lorenzan creole "dialect" of English. Many of its sacred texts, collectively called The Books of Bokonon, are written in the form of calypso songs.[8] Bokononist rituals are equally strange or absurdist; for example, the supreme religious act consists of any two worshippers rubbing the bare soles of their feet together to inspire spiritual connection. Here are some Bokononist terms:[9]

    • karass – A group of people linked in a cosmically significant manner, even when superficial linkages are not evident.
    • duprass – a karass of only two people, who almost always die within a week of each other. The typical example is a loving couple who work together for a great purpose.
    • granfalloon – a false karass; i.e., a group of people who imagine they have a connection that does not really exist. An example is "Hoosiers"; Hoosiers are people from Indiana, and Hoosiers have no true spiritual destiny in common, so really share little more than a name.
    • wampeter – the central theme or purpose of a karass. Each karass has two wampeters at any given time, one waxing and one waning.
    • foma – harmless untruths
    • wrang-wrang – Someone who steers a Bokononist away from their line of perception. For example, the narrator of the book is steered away from Nihilism when his Nihilist house sitter kills his cat and leaves his apartment in disrepair.
    • kan-kan – An object or item that brings a person into their karass. The narrator states in the book that his kan-kan was the book he wrote about the Hiroshima bombing.
    • sinookas – The intertwining "tendrils" of peoples' lives.
    • vin-dit – a sudden shove in the direction of Bokononism
    • saroon – to acquiesce to a vin-dit
    • stuppa – a fogbound child (i.e. an idiot)
    • duffle – the destiny of thousands of people placed on one "stuppa"
    • sin-wat – a person who wants all of somebody's love for themself
    • pool-pah – **** storm, but in some contexts: wrath of God
    • Busy, busy, busy – words Bokononists whisper when they think about how complicated and unpredictable the machinery of life really is
    • Now I will destroy the whole world – last words of a Bokononist before committing suicide
    • boko-maru – the supreme act of worship of the Bokononists, which is an intimate act consisting of prolonged physical contact between the naked soles of the feet of two persons
    • zah-mah-ki-bo – Inevitable destiny
    • Borasisi and Pabu, the Sun god and Lunar goddess; the binary trans-Neptunian object 66652 Borasisi and its moon, 66652 Borasisi I Pabu, now bear their names.
      • Borasisi, the Sun, held Pabu, the Moon, in his arms and hoped that Pabu would bear him a fiery child. But poor Pabu gave birth to children that were cold, that did not burn...Then poor Pabu herself was cast away, and she went to live with her favorite child, which was Earth.

    The Books of Bokonon

    Excerpted.....
    The First Book
    Warning from title page: Don't be a fool! Close this book at once! It is nothing but foma!
    [ 118 ]

    Verse 1: All of the true things that I am about to tell you are shameless lies. [ 4 ]

    Verses 2-4 (?): In the beginning, God created the earth, and he looked upon it in His cosmic loneliness.

    And God said, "Let Us make living creatures out of mud, so the mud can see what We have done." And God created every living creature that now moveth, and one was man. Mud as man alone could speak. God leaned close as mud as man sat up, looked around, and spoke. Man blinked. "What is the purpose of all this?" he asked politely.

    "Everything must have a purpose?" asked God.

    "Certainly," said man.

    "Then I leave it to you to think of one for all this," said God.

    And He went away. [ 118 ]

    Verse 5: Live by the foma that make you brave and kind and healthy and happy. [ frontispiece ]
     
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    PART 1 H-R-M Thrice Praised:
    Haha Hinduism was the point at which I felt super tired and pretended like I left so many spaces to encourage others to submit entries. I had only slept like 3 hours or something.

    I downloaded a 3 volume massive book called Black Athena and some additional materials related to it and fell asleep.

    I dreamed of people taking drugs and planning to have sex but I kept interrupting them. The drug they had to repeat its name to me in the dream multiple times was D.A.X. rather than D.E.X. or something. Anyway, I was being a major pee pee obstruction and then later in the dream I was bouncing around with my mom and she had a slim waiste and because of my bouncing around making noises there was the suggestion that people would think I'm having sex with my mother, not knowing it was my mother, or maybe even knowing it was my mother.

    That is right ladies and gentlemen, Sleep!

    Ever wanted obnoxious and ridiculous situations to be televised and broadcast inside your own head? Want to rob, rape, plunder, without the consequences? Well, you might just get lucky, with Sleep! Mankind's Most Used Sanity Regulation Technology! Spiders falling on your face, urinating all over yourself in a Bank that Doubles as a School? Everything can be yours with Sleep!

    Now, its interesting how I found the book Black Athena, because I was writing the linguistic theory that the word Hermes may have been connected at certain points with the semitic root H-R-M, and that Book brings it up!

    Hermes had to do with "bordered" areas as well as pilgrimage (travel) and trade (markets) and in Ancient Times in some cultures, the Temple acted as a place of business, contracts, dealings, as well as bordered off as "Sacred Space" and places around which or even in which people traded or sold items, goods, trinkets, and acted like a sort of Market. Everything to do with Hermes.

    Hermes seemed to be the "God of the World" which was represented by the four cornered Square, as well as the Cube.

    Masjid Al-Haram was I think the name for the Kabaa (Cube) sanctuary in Mecca (Becca).

    Hermes was known as a negotiator and mediator, dealing in contracts, perhaps like Mitra, as both were known as the Social Forces, the "friend" of mankind.

    Hermes was also known as the God of the Crossroads, and people would perform magic related to or upon crossroads and make deals and contracts to get their material desires.

    This tradition seems to have continued or appeared again regarding the "Black Man" who was the Devil who was offered deals on the Cross Roads for Worldly Gains.

    How this relates to this thread is that Nyarlathotep, who is the the Hermes of the Cthulhu Universe and may be called "The Black Man" in some forms or aspects, is an establisher of Religions and Cults for the Beyond Power, and seemingly creates these cults and temples to establish "Communication" (another Hermes aspect) with the force and forces of Chaos, to bring the Divine back into the World.

    Nyarlathotep is mentioned teaching weird things and demonstrating strange inventions (Hermes was considered an innovator and inventor), which stole away the hearts and minds of people and created a new revolution (Hermes is also credited as contributor of the very useful "gift" of Lies which were put into Pandora's box to be released into the world).

    So, the Creator of Lies and Communicator, Master of Eloquence, Rhetoric, Flowery Words, The Minds, and Most Everything that has to do with religions, praying, worship, and transfer of things between realms and worlds, such as Prayers and Worship back and forth to the Divine and as Psychopomp (Soul / Life Leader Guide) as well as Oneiropomp (Dream Leader Guide) is very appropiate to mention here!

    In the Qur'an, the consciousness was said to leave the body both in death as well as sleep, and Allah firmly establishes an identity as Hermes Trismegestus (Thrice Praised) and Muslims to this day praise God in threes when they bow and prostrate during the Formal Worship practice known as Salat or Salah. Allah also takes the identity and symbols and domains of every other God as well, and so:
     
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    PART 2 "7":
    You can Collect All 7 Domains and Don't Miss Out with this All in One Package! Behold! The Great Oracle of Apollo! Lets see what her priests have to say?

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    " The inscription, in its entirety, reads:
    “Self-born, untaught, born without a mother,
    undisturbable,
    Unable to be named, many-named, dwelling in fire,
    That is God: we are a small part of God, his angels.”
    This, then, to those who asked about God’s nature
    The god replied, calling him all-seeing Aether: look to him
    And pray at dawn, looking to the east.
    The same three lines of verse were recorded by Lactantius, who claimed
    they were the beginning of a 21-line oracle delivered by Clarian Apollo "
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    "
    1. The Existence
    2. The Power
    3. The Will
    4. The Decision ir Judgment can for fun be made to correspond to:
    5. Cronus - Space which makes Place
    6. Zeus - Air or Wind or Power which can generate and animate
    7. Poseidon - Water/information generated and depth
    8. Hades - The Decision which brings into reality through refined judgment or choices based on choices the Dead and soon Dead moment of experience.

    9. Between Zeus and Poseidon is the Electrical Activity or Fire which is desire and movement. Just like air and water has storms and thunder and lightning produced by the conductivity it creates as a positive active moving trasmitting thing Air and a passive conductive receptive thing Water. Hermes Fire is in between.

    10. Between Water and Earth is Growth, and so based on the water factor grows out of the Earth, Mundus the decider the plant. Likewise, from the Will factor combined with the decision factor a particular birth or experience moment is generated. This is Venus and so grows from in between Water and Earth, just like Aphrodite.

    11. The final is Apollo the total Annhilation who is Alpha and Omega which means two specific things and is different in meaning from "First and Last" which Apollo the Destroyer quality is, appearing in between Cronus Existence and Zeus the movement, Apollo represents the Destruction if a moment and the Appearance of change, thus "Through Apollo all things are experienced by elimination and generation and elimination". Apollo is the "Command" sent forth, the "Decision" the "Decree" and so is also the Logos or the "Word" and is the Like Nothing's Command ability of issuing forth the "Be" command to generate a specific moment of experience then eliminating it and producing another which creates the appearance of change or is apparent change.

    12. These are the 7, and they are all parts of One, they are remembered in any 7, such as Ursa Major the 7 stars that are near the central axis pole which the stars are experienced as circling.

    13. Apollo represents Light which is invisible but makes things manifest or seen which in this case means "experienced" and is represented by the sense organ of Eyes and Ears, so is depicted as a twinning and black and white and darkness and light and all that. Light itself is invisible but is only known through what it reveals or reflects upon and being reflected upon in thought, otherwise we can't see literal light directly only that it reveals its presence through revealing upon objects. That is also one way in which Apollo function is the Shower of Signs or Oracles and Omens and Revelator the Revealer the Apocalypse which means now adays both Revealing what is Hidden and Destruction and Punishment.

    14. Apollo also represents Sound emitted or vibration.

    15. When the Qur'an mentions "The destruction of all things by a sound which atomizes everything" this is the Change of vibration and destruction of our Lord Apollo the One God.

    16. Because of Association of Sound and being a mixture of Air and Earth and Space elements and all that, the Bat is one of the symbols of the Apollo element or factor because of its famous mammalian flight and ears, seeing in the dark through sound emissions issued from the cave of Hades or cavity of the mouth which is like a cave too.

    17. The Master, 7, has shown signs through everything to those who think.

    18. May the Lord Bless You if He So Chooses and Deems So, that is Hades, who you love and likewise knows you well moment to moment.

    19. Believe it or not, my way is the only real way and luckily encompasses everything.

    20. Yet if you deny until your death, that is what was issued forth from Hades the King Molech of the 2 pointed pitchfork and the 3 pointed crown symbols.

    "
    Now a Testimonial:

    "
    1. I spent 200 dollars on a project. A few minutes later I went out to get some money. As soon as I stepped out a speech started playing in my mind as if it was just going on on its own out of nowhere. It said, "I am the God of Luck, do you remember..." and then related to me numerous stories and examples about my father and me and other things, ocassionally also stopping me in certain locations where I looked up and saw a man looking like a frozen zombie naked in the window just staring out blankly like it was pretty freaky. Then I continued and it said how I look to the ground for the favors of the God while I am on the path and that this is a blessed quality and on and on.

    2. I made it to the place where I was going to collect the money transmitted to me, one of those places where people can send money internationally between nations. The song then played and began to speak as I was waiting so that I was left listenig to only that song "I bless the rains down in Africa", Africa by Toto, which has regularly occurred when treasure is at hand or about to manifest.

    3. Then I left, not really knowing the lyrics or what it had said until I read about it later on after what happened next.

    4. So I stood around at a place considering if I should wait for someone who I told to meet me, and I stood for a certain amount of time thinking and deciding and saw people walk down from the path back home.

    5. I decided I will head back and if they leave they will be approaching me and we will meet up at that point and walk back together.

    6. The weird speeches had only been at the beginning of this short journey, then seemingly turned into the song which played which I only thought later, and then turned into decisions where I move or perform certain actions like deciding to head back home.

    7. So I started back, and though there had been people on the straight path sidewalk through the neighborhood back home they had all dissappeared or cleared out. I walked and saw laying on the ground straight in the middle of the path before me 100 dollars. I picked it up. I moved a little and saw 100 dollars again. 200 dollars. I looked around and no one was around, sobI prostrated in the kowtow posture or sadjood or dogenza or whatever and thanked The Master who had told me about how I look to the ground and find things laid in the path by Lord Hermes the Lord of journeys, money, messages, symbols, communications, transmissions, etc, all the themes I dealt with. Then I looked around and saw a symbol which for me represents something special about myself, and picked it up, a fishnet shirt just my size which has a lot of themes already known to me and which I had been looking for also and was hard to find and in my especially large size perfectly.

    8. Like a video game.

    9. Then I walked the rest of the way back home and looked up the song lyrics I perceived as a direct communication from The Master.

    10. Then it reminded me or inspired in my mind that "This is for your fasting, a gift from your Lord, so that everything you spend in the way of Allah is repaid to you in full and you are given more. I didn't lose a cent on my spiritual project purchase.

    11. I looked up the lyrics and was floored, and even now I am brought to tears by such things. That was my experience of amazement, one of very many, and why I am also filled with proud arrogance towards other people who I consider fakes, charlatans, un-favored, with no real religion or God. They rarely comprehend or have direct and physical miraculous dealings with The Master. I am being told this story ir reminded of it because I am being forced and directed to journey out today and so miracles are very likely in store as I travel in the danger germ zone in search of gifts and bounty such as gloves to wash my bum with to be clean for my 24/7 spiritual religious practices. "



    ttps://youtu.be/azA3MhXq7-8
     
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    PART 3 ANTHROPOS "THE MAN":
    The ancient Aitareya Upanishad equates Indra, along with other deities, with Atman (soul, self) in the Vedanta's spirit of internalization of rituals and gods. It begins with its cosmological theory in verse 1.1.1 by stating that, "in the beginning, Atman, verily one only, was here - no other blinking thing whatever; he bethought himself: let me now create worlds". This soul, which the text refers to as Brahman as well, then proceeds to create the worlds and beings in those worlds wherein all Vedic gods and goddesses such as sun-god, moon-god, Agni and other divinities become active cooperative organs of the body. The Atman thereafter creates food, and thus emerges a sustainable non-sentient universe, according to the Upanishad. The eternal Atman then enters each living being making the universe full of sentient beings, but these living beings fail to perceive their Atman. The first one to see the Atman as Brahman, asserts the Upanishad, said, "idam adarsha or "I have seen It". Others then called this first seer as Idam-dra or "It-seeing", which over time came to be cryptically known as "Indra", because, claims Aitareya Upanishad, everyone including the gods like short nicknames. The passing mention of Indra in this Upanishad, states Alain Daniélou, is a symbolic folk etymology.

    The section 3.9 of the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad connects Indra to thunder, thunderbolt and release of waters. In section 5.1 of the Avyakta Upanishad, Indra is praised as he who is embodies the qualities of all gods."


    ttps://youtu.be/HGy9i8vvCxk

    "Well you can tell everybody
    Yeah you can tell everybody
    Go ahead and tell everybody

    I'm the man, I'm the man, I'm the man
    Yes I am, yes I am, yes I am
    I'm the man, I'm the man, I'm the man

    I believe every lie that I ever told (what does not exist is a lie, what is thought to be true is believed. God turns what is not into what is and what is into what is not, moment to moment, first you appear to be doing this, then you are not any longer so to say you are is a lie when you are appearing to do something else. Your finger is typing this, then it is a lie and it is typing that, and then it is a lie and no longer true and something that wasn't true becomes the truth now).

    Paid for every heart that I ever stole
    I played my cards and I didn't fold
    Well it ain't that hard when you got soul
    this is my world


    Somewhere I heard that life is a test
    I been through the worst but I still give my best
    God made my mold different from the rest
    Then he broke that mold so I know I'm blessed
    this is my world

    Stand up now and face the sun
    Won't hide my tail or turn and run
    It's time to do what must be done
    Be a king when kingdom comes

    Well you can tell everybody
    Yeah you can tell everybody
    Go ahead and tell everybody
    I'm the man, I'm the man, I'm the man
    Well you can tell everybody
    Yeah you can tell everybody
    Go ahead and tell everybody
    I'm the man, I'm the man, I'm the man
    Yes I am, yes I am, yes I am
    I'm the man, I'm the man, I'm the man

    I got all the answers to your questions
    I'll be the teacher you can be the lesson
    I'll be the preacher you be the confession
    I'll be the quick relief to all your stressin'
    this is my world

    It's a thin line between love and hate
    Is you really real or is you really fake

    I'm a soldier standing on my feet
    No surrender and I won't retreat
    this is my world

    Stand up now and face the sun
    Won't hide my tail or turn and run
    It's time to do what must be done
    Be a king when kingdom comes

    I'm the man, I'm the man, I'm the man
    Yes I am, yes I am, yes I am
    I'm the man, I'm the man, I'm the man "

    Kheper.net
    ttp://www.kheper.net/topics/Gnosticism/archetypal_man.html
    " the primal father of the whole, the primal beginning, and the primal incomprehensible, is called Anthropos…and that is the great and abstruse mystery, namely, that the power which is above all others, and contains all others in its embrace, is called Anthopos. "
     
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    PART 4 Languages of The World:
    Anthropos
    ttps://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/a/anthropos.html
    I interpret that song as a useful message and reminder from God speaking about Himself.

    Just like this song, I interpret as God's message to mankind:

    ttps://youtu.be/ZXvzzTICvJs

    Whilst using Silent Mudras as "Words" and "Commands" like the Shapes of Information God Creates.

    "Now I'm in town, break it down, thinking of making a new sound
    Playing a different show every night in front of a new crowd
    That's you now, ciao, seems that life is great now
    See me lose focus, as I sing to you loud
    And I can't, no, I won't hush
    I'll say the words that make you blush
    I'm gonna sing this now
    See, I'm true (Al-Haq,Al-Ameen), my songs (galdr, galster) are where my heart is
    I'm like glue, I stick to other artists
    I'm not you, now that would be disastrous
    Let me sing and do my thing and move to greener pastures
    See, I'm real (Uhl the Definite Particle or "The", and Al-Haqq), I do it all, it's all me
    I'm not fake, don't ever call me lazy
    I won't stay put, give me the chance to be free
    Suffolk sadly seems to sort of suffocate me
    'Cause you need me, man (individual person and mankind), I don't need you
    You need me man, I don't need you
    You need me man, I don't need you at all
    You need me man, I don't need you
    You need me man, I don't need you
    You need me man, I don't need you
    You need me man, I don't need you at all
    You need me
    I sing and write my own tune
    And I write my own verso
    Don't need another word-smith to make my tune sell
    Call yourself a singer-writer. You're just bluffing
    Your name's on the credits and you didn't write nothing
    I sing fast, I know that all my [censored]'s cool
    I will blast and I didn't go to Brit School
    I came fast with the way I act, right
    I can't last if I'm smoking on a crack pipe
    And I won't be a product of my genre
    My mind will always be stronger than my songs are
    Never believe the [censored] that fake guys feed to ya
    Always read the stories that you hear on Wikipedia
    And musically I'm demonstrating
    When I perform live, feels like I am meditating
    Times at the Enterprise when some fella filmed me
    'A young singer-writer like Gabriella Cilmi'
    'Cause you need me, man, I don't need you
    You need me, man, I don't need you
    You need me, man, I don't need you, at all
    You need me, man, I don't need you
    You need me, man, I don't need you
    You need me, man, I don't need you
    You need me, man, I don't need you, at all
    You need me
    'Cause with the lyrics I'll be aiming it right
    I won't stop till my name's in light (An-Noor, Amitabha, Lucifer)
    At Stadium Heights with Damien Rice
    On red carpets, now I'm on arabian nights
    Because I'm young and all my brothers gonna give me advice
    Long nighter, short height and I'm gone hyper
    Never been anything but a singer-songwriter
    The games over but now I'm on a new level
    Watch how I step on the track without a loop pedal
    People think that I'm bound to blow up
    I've done around about a thousand shows
    But I haven't got a house plus I live on the couch (Vishnu)
    So you can BE the lyrics when I'm singing them out wow
    From day one, I've been prepared
    With V05 wax for my ginger hair
    So now I'm back to the sofa giving a dose of what the future holds (Vishnu upon the Reality or the Couch of our World or Universe we think we rest upon as solid and real)
    'Cause it's another day plus I'll keep my last name forever keep the genre pretty basic
    Gonna be breaking into other people's tunes when I chase it
    And replace it with the elephant (Airavata) in the room with a facelift
    Into another rappers shoes using new laces
    Selling cds from my rucksack aiming for the papers
    Selling cds from my rucksack aiming for majors
    Nationwide til' we're just jack, soon as I get the bus back
    Clean cut kid without a razor for the mustache
    I hit back when the pen hurts me
    I'm still a choir boy in a French church tee
    I'm still the same as a year ago
    But more people hear me though
    According to the myspace and youtube videos
    I'm always doing shows, if I'm not I'm in the studio
    Truly broke, never growing up call me Ruffio
    Melody music maker
    Reading all the papers
    They say I'm up and coming like I'm [censored] in an elevator
    'Cause you need me, man, I don't need you
    You need me, man, I don't need you
    You need me, man, I don't need you, at all
    You need me, man, I don't need you
    You need me, man, I don't need you
    You need me, man, I don't need you
    You need me, man, I don't need you, at all
    You need me, man, I don't need you "

    "What exactly are these things to you? These god things?

    If there are 50 languages, and each makes reference to the Sun, and one says the sun blah blah white horses, and another says blah blah turtles, then white horses become a symbol that such and such related to the Sun in such and such scrap, and this other culture said blah blah turtles, so turtle is a symbol associated with the Sun for so and so. Then ___insert name___ or ___you___ come along and there is the Sun, and you read about the Sun and collect all the various references and ideas your predecessors have related to the Sun, and you yourself add to it, add them together plus install your own references as well, and also what the Sun shape and symbol and qualities mean for you variously and may represent. This becomes a whole lot of collected information under the mental file "Sun" or "Spiritual References And Ideas Concerning The Sun".

    So now when you think about the sun religiously, a whole bunch of references come to mind. Now when you see white horses or a turtle, the sun may come to mind.

    Now, what I described is not seemingly what people are talking about when they say "choose" and "settle". Since the starting point and bottom line and even the goals are so different, the prioritization or preference for each method or difference becomes almost impossible to understand, or to understand why?

    Why would someone limit their enjoyment or collection of references and mind-directing associations to a term or object and constrain the potential uses? Who does this fasting or dieting end up benefiting and how?

    Does every language have a Sun which is not the same as the one they are seeming to mean to refer to? Is it not the Sun once some person associates it with a turtle and another with white horses? Now because two different people have done this and both didn't say white horses or turtle that day (and who are they anyway?) we are stuck choosing between them for some reason and now there are 2 or 3 different Suns?

    Isn't that what it comes down to? Just silliness with people being sort of worthless and wasteful in their pedantry? It might even be an illness in humans, passed on from generation to generation, that they feel much ado about nothing.

    I like discussing it though to try to figure out the ideas behind it and mechanisms actively motivating it or underlying why these are the common feelings and understandings that people go through.

    Like, what are these things with which one imagines they are having a relationship, and how, and why does it matter? "

    Graffitied scribblings, Advertisements for Your Soul? :

    "0. Space
    1. Sky
    3. Water
    4. Fire Industry Technology
    5. Life Growth
    7. Metal Blood Sound Light
    2. Earth

    0. Worship Dreaming Meditating
    1. Active Working
    3. Hygiene Cleansing
    4. Eating Burning
    5. Sex Creativity
    7. Defecation Toxicity Removal
    2. Passive Growth Decay Sleep

    0. Teotl
    1. Tezcatlipoca Hurakan
    3. Tlaloc Chac
    4. Nose
    5. Vegetation
    7. Disease
    2. Death

    0.
    1. Jaguar
    3.
    4.
    5.
    7. Turkey Bat (Comazotz)
    2.

    0. Cronus (Sun) - Space
    1. Zeus Jupiter (Sky) - Air
    3. PoseidonNeptune(Moon)Water
    4. Hermes Mercury (Earth) - Fire
    5. Aphrodite Venus - Growth
    7. Apollo Mars - Destruction
    2. Hades Pluto (Saturn) - Death

    0. Gold/Indigo/Transparent
    1. Blue/Orange/White
    3. Silver/Blue-Green/Turqoise
    4. Gray/Yellow/Black
    5. Pink/Green-Blue/Alabaster
    7. Copper/Red/Pink
    2. Black/Violet/Gray/Brown

    0. Origin God
    1. Weather Wind Air Storm God
    3. Water God
    4. Trade God
    5. Sex God
    7. Disease God
    2. Death God

    0. Ymir Space Sun
    1. Vili Thor Byleistr Sky Alf Thu
    3. Nordjr Jormungandr Sea Mon
    4. Odin Reginn Helblindi Wed
    5. Frigg Fri
    7. Tyr Fenrir Tue
    2. Hel Loki Fafnir Dwarves Sat

    0. Protogenoi Khaos
    1. Titan Cronus
    3. Moirae
    4. Olympian Zeus Poseidon Hades
    5. Nymph
    7. Muse
    2. Erinye

    0.
    1.
    3.
    4. Lugh
    5.
    7.
    2.

    0. Adi-Buddha Vairocana Indigo
    1. Indra Sakra Vajradhara
    3. Varuna Manjushri
    4. Mitra Mara Jizo
    5. Kama Avalokiteshvara
    7. Rudra Sarva Amitabha
    2. Yama Vajrapani

    0. Amatsu Mikaboshi Space King
    1. Fujin Air King
    3. Water King
    4. Inari Fire King
    5. Sex King
    7. Bishamonten Destruction King
    2. Death King

    0. Atum
    1. Amun
    3. Sobek
    4. Thoth
    5. Isis
    7. Horus Set Resheph
    2. Osiris

    0. Allah El Dagan Enlil
    1. Baal YHWH
    3. Yam Lotan Tiamat
    4. Nabu Marduk Enki
    5. Attar Ishtar Hikmah
    7. Nergal Mikkal Aplu
    2. Mot Melqart Kingu

    0. Vayu Zurvan
    1. Indra
    3. Haoma
    4. Ahura Mazda Angra Mainyu
    5.
    7. Sarva
    2.

    0.
    1.
    3.
    4.
    5. Astaroth
    7. Beelzebub Fly
    2. Bael

    0. Pole
    1. Bull Bear Jaguar Ursa Major
    3. Giant Crocodile
    4. Corvus
    5. Draco
    7. Pleiades Fox Fly
    2. Orion

    Zeus Cronus: Baal-Perun-Ancient Thor / Allah-El-Cronus-Saturn
    South (Jupiter / Saturn) (Afro-Hamitic-Semitic)
    Very Hot and Sunny and often Dry
    Most Obsessed with Domination, History, Empire, and Legacy
    0. Italic-Greco-Hittite-Anatolian (Jupiter, Zeus)
    1. Canaanite (Dagan, Baal)
    3. Mesopotamian
    X4. Syrian-Arabian-Ethiopic
    5. South African
    7. West African
    2. North African-Egyptian

    Apollo:
    Fire and Light
    East (Mars / Sun)
    Mixture of All
    Most Obsessed With "Spirit", "Energy", "Sun", "Fire", "Thought"
    0. Persian
    1. Silk Road-Sogdian
    3. Saka-Buddhist
    X4. Mongolian
    5. Japanese-Chinese
    7. Buddhist-Jain
    2. Puranic-Vedic Indian-Gypsy

    Hermes Poseidon:
    Traders Commerce Crafters Travelers
    North (Mercury / Moon)
    Covered by Water Through Snow, Dark, Cold
    Most Obsessed With Sea and Ice and Treasure
    0. Celtic-Gaul
    1. Irish-Welsh-Briton
    3. Anglo Saxon-Norse-Germanic
    X4. Finnish-Baltic-Sami
    5. Russian-Slavic
    7. Western Christian
    2. Basque-Pre-Historic

    Venus:
    Fertility and Growth
    West (Venus / Earth)
    Often Humid, Wet, and full of Jungle
    Most Obsessed With Caves
    0. Carribean-Amazonian-Andean
    1. Aboriginal
    3. Maori-Polynesian
    X4. Eskimo-Haida
    5. Plains-Lakes
    7. Zuni-Uto Aztecan-Mayan
    2. Moche-Peruvian
     
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    PART 5 Venus in Furs:
    "I am a magical thinker, fully a sorceror. I "divined" those music videos, I used magic and believe in magic and even call God "Science" meaning Skill and "Magic" or Sihr as names of the Master and the Master's Powers and Domains of influence and activities and personal qualities also.

    I am a conscious and deliberate Operator. I perform and execute a performance to appeal to The Means which in this case is believed to be God the Master or The Devil (if you prefer that term which I use to refer to God, not Iblis), who is thought to be a real living being with a mind of its own and can receive my appeal and witnesses it even through my own experience it is creating for me and making me say and do, but for normal purposes is being called upon as Other (Allo) and then is imagined to generate whatever as my reality or experience as it decides and crafts and pleases to do. That is actual magic and magical thinking and magical belief.

    In the past, people would appeal to a Theos and speak to it, they would complain and list their problems and beg and plead for something to be done. Then, the Theos, if they were present and heard them somehow and saw them, decides to do something about it or not. If they decide to do something in favor and in response to the prayer and maybe give them what they want, the prayer is called "Accepted" and it is only known if it has been "Granted" once it has come to pass.

    The prayer is considered "Rejected" or "Denied" if nothing that is asked seems to happen. There could be many reasons people may imagine for this, like if they think maybe their Theos that they asked wasn't there to hear them or they made some mistake or its for the best or if it was simply denied after being heard. So in our beliefs, the prayers which February-Saturday had asked and felt were not heard, were heard but either rejected or brought about in ways they were not made to understand or realize as answers or fulfilment if requests, but since the Theos is doing it in my beliefs and is fully aware of what it is producing moment to moment and making them think in say, there is no room for the Theos in such a belief system as mine to proclaim ignorance or inability. It made them do it as part of the narrative it invents and then includes their denial and whatever it wants to make them into, like if it wants them to have this story leading them towards Jungian psycho-magic or whatever instead of Eewaboogery like it has imposed upon me according to my beliefs and model.

    There are 6 general forms of manifestation in this reality and they can be made to correspond to the 6 existences.
    0. Dharma: This is slightly off the spectrum, but in this case it refers to manifesting a desired result simply by changing the idea of what qualifies as achieving it, so a change of the philosophy or idea. So if we wanted to be a werewolf, we could simply change our idea of what we think qualifies us as one.

    Moon or Mani of the Mind (Chandra/Soma)
    1. Naraka/Rakahasa (Citta-Maya, The Imaginary): The first form of Manifesting Results is our Imagination, it is the fastest. Lets say we want to be a werewolf, so the quickest way to manifest or see this occur is by simply imagining we are or seeing it in our imaginations. You can imagine yourself and then see yourself turn into whatever you think qualifies you as a werewolf and a werewolf is, and Wah-Allah, there it is, or you can imagine yourself drinking water or whatever you want and without obstructionm you are able to manifest the experience in the Imaginary Form or Form Type 1. Think of Milton's quote regarding Lucifer's speech regarding the mind.

    Fast Moving Mercury the Ghost King (Budha)
    2. Bhut (Super-Imposed or Hallucinatory): The second way to manifest is a mixture of mind and what we see externally, so that we project using our imaginations to see a super imposition upon our experience of reality or our senses. So this is one step beyond pure imagination because it imposes our imagination upon the reality, but is insubstantial and non-physical, like a ghost or phantom upon our senses which might lead us to be hungry ir crave for the thing to be substantial like we might a mirage of water or a hallucination or trick of the eyes of a tasty meal. If one wants to be a Form 2 werewolf, simply impose upon your real life image the imaginary body of a werewolf as you please, or imagine upon yourself the image of a werewolf and the body of such, when you look at your face in the mirror, see your werewolf face superimposed upon it. This is slightly more difficult than the pure imagination, and you will see each after this become increasingly slower, more time consuming, more dense.

    Saturn, The slowest moving planet, and for an animal things are very difficult and life is full of death (Shani)
    3. Animal (Physical): In Form Three, you become a werewolf through means like exercise and behavior to reach whatever end point you have imagined, the means are wholly physical and substantial and bodily through exertion, exercise, shaping, acting.

    Mars the Man-O-War (tools) (Lohit/Mangala)
    4. Man (Surgical, Craft, Skill): This is the fourth form of manifesting your desires, where you might use means of physical crafts and skill to fashion for yourself a werewolf costume perhaps or using tools and physical means, cut yourself into the shape of one as you imagine it or implant whatever features you may wish, or chisel your teeth or glue on some, or if you want water, put it in a vessel to have it with you, the things man can do which animals don't do since they depend on their bodies mostly and their physicality rather than their skills in crafting solutions.

    Venus the Green(us)(t) (Shukra)
    5. Asura (Technological, Adoptive, Trans): The Asura or "Lords" struggle hard for their ideals and wanting to improve their state. This is the Fifth type of manifestation, manifesting by means which are technically advanced, or wholly technological, so that if you want to be a werewolf you make a complete robot costume of a werewolf or are a werewolf in some virtual world or control some werewolf body robot one way or another, or modify your body mechanically and technologically or with nano-machines to become or do what you want or can. It takes a lot of hard work and struggle and knowledge to use Artifice and Fabrication at such a high level even beyond simply making a costume or wearing a garb to be considered a werewolf. Here you would truly be controlling a werewolf body, albeit a machine one, and so some would still say "it isn't real, it isn't true, it isn't good enough". You know what to do, Teki-No-Worf!

    Archon Jupiter (Dev Guru/Brihispati)
    6. Deva (Material, Biological, Evolutionary): This is the sixth manifestation form, the one that people typically consider "the most real, most legitimate, most authentic, most authoritative" of the forms of manifestation. One can use Asuric means of technology, but would biologically be physically changed into what they imagine to be a werewolf. They are physically and bodily, in appearance, inside and out, an "actual" werewolf, by means of genetics, genetical alteration, evolution, whatever. The actual matter and material is changed. The quibblers would quibble in making distinctions between those turned and able to turn back between those born as such, with the "born as such and developing naturally" typically being the ones they deem more legitimate, even if the genetically modified ones are identical and look the same and the end results are the same, but "it wouldn't have been so without personal deliberate interference", similarly a miraculous biological physical change would be considered of a "higher" nature by elitists than one done purposefully through deliberate genetic alterations, but whatever. This form of manifestation of Apollo's Zither vibrates the slowest and has the lowest sound.

    Sun (Surya), Ruler of the Worlds, Mover of All, They All Depend on You, You give them habitation, warmth, and make them able to see!
    0. Buddha/Siddhi: This is slightly outside of the spectrum like the other zero, but in this form, rather than changing a philosophy, or manifesting a thought, a superimposition, a physical shape through effort, a shape through craft and skill and surgical procedures, a shape or goal by more advanced technological means or digital simulation, or a shape through biological means or alteration of matter, one changes reality or physicality instantly with thought. This is The Ultimate State, and generally understood even by some as a singularity which variously dives into the 6 forms of manifestations.

    "`Is this the region, this the soil, the clime,’
    Said then the lost archangel, `this the seat
    That we must change for heav’n, this mournful gloom
    For that celestial light? Be it so, since he
    Who now is sovran can dispose and bid
    What shall be right: furthest from him is best
    Whom reason hath equalled, force hath made supreme
    Above his equals. Farewell happy fields
    Where joy for ever dwells: hail horrors, hail
    Infernal world, and thou profoundest hell
    Receive thy new possessor: one who brings
    A mind not to be changed by place or time.
    The mind is its own place, and in itself
    Can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven.
    What matter where, if I be still the same,
    And what I should be, all but less than he
    Whom thunder bath made greater? Here at least
    We shall be free; the almighty hath not built
    Here for his envy, will not drive us hence:
    Here we may reign secure, and in my choice
    To reign is worth ambition though in hell:
    Better to reign in hell, than serve in heaven.

    " These lines are taken from Book I. Satan is surveying his new home trying to become aware of the new situation after his downfall. Satan and the Rebel Angels had fallen down through space “Nine times the Space that measures Day and Night” before landing in hell. Satan compares the new world to Paradise and feels lost because everything is different here: “the region, the soil, the clime“; there is only “a mournful gloom” all over the place instead of the “celestial light” of the Paradise. He is not glad at first to be there, but he soon rejects despair and accepts the new situation: “Be it so…. Farewell happy fields where joy for ever dwells: hail horrors, hail infernal word”. In the following lines Satan shows all his ambition, all his self-confidence and determination. He realizes that now he is the “new possessor” of a place where “ farthest from him( God)…. at least we shall be free….and….may reign secure”. His ambition is to have a reign somewhere, no matter if that place is gloomy and horrible. He is great in the self-assurance of his strength: he has got “a mind not to be changed by place or time”, a mind that “ can make a Heaven of Hell, and a Hell of Heaven”. Then hell and heaven are only states of mind. Milton’s hell is not a real place! Hell is in the mind because the mind can change the external world: if we live in a Paradise but our mind perceives it as a hell, that place will be hell and viceversa. " - from https://rosariomariocapalbo.wordpress.com




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    You are very charitable. ;)
     
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    Wow! Like those hours of infomercials!

    The reason people should get into religion is Fun, and the reason people should leave religion is Fun!

    If you are restricted from feeling fulfilment and enjoyment, if you can't worship what you want, and if your ideas are just not sitting right with you because of how things are in your experience, why not simply add, subtract, multiply, divide/separate and do as you please to justify and make your few hours of life every day full of fun?

    Spiritual Fun, Non-Spiritual Fun, but not due to Fundamentalist Terror, which even Former Christian Militant Atheists may still get into. That means they are worried so much about fitting in perfectly in their Bento Box that they crap themselves at the thought of breaking whatever addiction they may now have, just like anorexics or exercise addicts!

    Cahmon! Forget about all that silliness! Who cares! Have fun with it! Enjoy your life! You want to worship Cthulhu? Think about what is stopping you? Think about how you can justify it or make it true! Even being smart to get your way is a joy of being human, but how many of us are Man enough to be Human?

    I don't let geeks tell me what I can and can't do, or what is wrong or right. I'm their BOSS. I will worship Shiva, I will worship Allah, I will worship them as One, Because I don't believe in Two! So whose going to ***** about it? Then I'll cast black magic on them for getting in my way, and who is going to get in my way of worshipping my God and Buying What I Want To BUY?

    There is no scarcity! There is no LAW against making a Sushi Hamburger! Innovate for your pleasure and hers!


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