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be prepared for the new Hitler, Mr. Adolf Bush.(new pictures)

Discussion in 'Political Debates' started by TashaN, Feb 15, 2006.

  1. TashaN

    TashaN Veteran Member
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    This is the freedom which Bush promised to the people in Iraq and this is how he decieved the Americans when they thought thier army is going there with flowers to spread peace.

    This is the hell on earth ..

    a place called, abu Garib in Iraq ..

    no courts ..

    no evidence ..

    just to show the world how powerful USA is ..

    No mercy ..

    No respect for human beings ..

    no such a thing called human rights ..

    They are animals because they are not americans ..

    This is how they see the others ..


    http://www.alwatan.com.sa/daily/2006-02-16/Pictures/1602.POL.P2.N50.jpg
    http://www.alwatan.com.sa/daily/2006-02-16/Pictures/1602.POL.P2.N56.jpg
    http://www.alwatan.com.sa/daily/2006-02-16/Pictures/1602.POL.P2.N32.jpg
    http://www.alwatan.com.sa/daily/2006-02-16/Pictures/1602.POL.P2.N53.jpg
     
  2. robtex

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    MOD ADVISORY: The attached jpegs are graphic in nature showing prisoners in adverse circumstances.
     
  3. Joe bag of doughnuts

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    I'm not saying that such things are right, but why don't you show the pictures of how the terriorists chop-off the heads of those who they disagree with?
    No courts.

    No evidence.

    No mercy.

    It's a hell on earth there too.
     
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  4. robtex

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    Joe are you suggesting that the torture of arab prisoners is "Justice" for the beheading of westerners or are you instead suggesting that torturing arab prisoners is in fact, a possible or probable deterient for western beheadings? In addition do you think any of the people in those prisons are in fact beheaders?
     
  5. Jayhawker Soule

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    Why don't you read what he said rather than playing silly rhetorical games. His post is absolutely unambiguous.
     
  6. michel

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    I was going to make the point that two wrongs don't make any bad behaviour right.

    This is a very emotive subject. I would like to think that if I was a soldier that I would not fall to the temptation of abuse.............but, to be frank, I think not one of us can know how we would behave under such circumstances.
     
  7. Joe bag of doughnuts

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    Naw rob, I'm not saying that. It's just that both sides are in knee deep over there and we need to remember that. But our acting like them is not getting us any where. Duing WWII the Japs. would not surrender because they were told that we would torture them. When word got out that we didn't, it took away a lot of respect for their officers that they held.

    It's a pisspoor way to fight a war. What ever happened to winning over the people like we were doing early on in the war?
     
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  8. waacman

    waacman Restoration of everything

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    His post might be, but his pictures aren't.
     
  9. michel

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    I hope you realize, the Truth, that this is not how all American or British soldiers behave. Sure, their behaviour shown in rhe pictures is apalling.

    There have been attrocities on both sides - let's not forget that.

    I think it sad that you have to use Hitler's name to describe Mr Bush..........a far more recent example of a tyrant and abuser, who also denied everyone human rights is at the moment trying to wreck his own trial. I am, of course, talking about Saddam Hussein.
     
  10. robtex

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    I wonder if it is possible to "win somebody over" in a war. I mean we have an occupying force in their country. I know I would hate to look out my window and see armed soliders from another country outside. Knee deep is a good way to see it. I wish there was clear objectives to evaluate ....Nothing good can come of the tortore of those prisoners though. I am thinking it has a chance to increase the drive for some of the arabs to behead not the opposite.
     
  11. Jayhawker Soule

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    Reread the thread. When I said
    Why don't you read what he said rather than playing silly rhetorical games. His post is absolutely unambiguous.​
    I was addressing robtex and referring to post #3.
     
  12. Darkdale

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    Isn't this a three year old story? *yawns*
     
  13. Quoth The Raven

    Quoth The Raven Half Arsed Muse

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    Yes...you just need to look to Vietnam to see how successful WHAMO is as a tactic.
     
  14. TashaN

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    So you have no problem if Iran did the same with people from your country for example if they were under the same circumstances? is it ok?
     
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    Those people who were acting such a thing work for the government and they represent USA but the terrorists do not represent all people in iraq. Got it now?
     
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    So you mean Bush = Saddam, or are you saying if Saddam did it so it's ok if Bush did it too?
     
  17. Deut 13:1

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    Do you have ANY idea how disrespectful it is to even compare Bush with Hitler, especially on a forum that has Jews who have lost the majority of their family to that *******?
     
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  18. Jayhawker Soule

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    Yes - which is precisely why he did it. At least, in a small way, it exposes the 'quality' of the enemy, much as does the barbaric insanity in response to the cartoons.
     
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    ...and reminds me why war is necessary and good. Putting these people down is the only compassionate response. Everything else is complicity in the violence. Eventually the West will get tired of this nonsense and ack together to end it once and for all.
     
  20. TashaN

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    Huh? :confused:

    When i mentioned Hitler i didn't know that will hurt you because Hitler wasn't an enemy for Jewish only, but for the entire area which was affected by his crazy power to destroy.

    I'm really sorry if that offended you but i didn't know that once i mention him you will be offended, maybe one day you will explain more about it for me maybe through PM.:eek:

    I apologize again, maybe the problem is that i didn't meet Jewish before so i don't know what makes them feel good and what makes them feel bad to avoid it in the future.

    I just meant that Bush is evil when he see his army doing these acts and he never question them for doing it.

    I didn't post this because i hate america, No. I have alot of muslims and christians american friends. It just that i don't like how Bush is managing his government, how he used to decieve the people who trusted him twice electing him, and how he deal with the middle east.

    I know there are good guys overthere as much the bad guys but the problem is when they feel it's ok if some of them did it.

    That doesn't mean that we are perfect, if we just used to throw things to each other we will never live in peace.

    We all must work for a better future, even though we didn't love each other or respect each other. Peace is important not only for us, but for our children in the future, to not inherit the hate toward others whatever they did and to forgive each other.

    Nevertheless, if we remained silent about what happen to those people then thier families and nation will not be silent after them and here the violence come to destroy the human beings relationships, just when people forget that there are people out there who deserve and have the same exact right to live in peace.


    Peace ... :)
     
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