• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Banning media which contain immoral/terrify/voilent/sexual element?

Pudding

Well-Known Member
Recently hear some people talking about banning movies, tv show/drama, games and music which contain immoral/terrify/voilent/sexual element. (books should also include in that category)
Do you agree that they should be ban?
On what criteria qualify to ban it? How much content of immoral/terrify/voilent/sexual qualify to ban it?

There're religion's holy book which also contain many immoral/terrify/voilent/sexual element, like murder, raping, slavery, genocide, wipe out everyone on the earth except a few people, threatening of eternity burning, stoning rebellious children, killing babies, people who work on sunday should be put to death.
Should we also ban the holy book which have many elements as describe above?

Edit:
Thank you everyone for the comments.
To clarify my position, i don't advocate banning the religion's holy book.
My question "Should we also ban those holy books" is in response to the theist who advocate to banning the immoral/terrify/voilent/sexual content inside media.

So my question's intention is to asking them if they wish to ban the immoral/terrify/voilent/sexual content inside media (movies, tv, games, music), why don't they also ban the immoral/terrify/voilent/sexual content inside their religion's holy book?

I should be made it clear in the first place but haven't thought about writing it like that previously.
 
Last edited:

Pudding

Well-Known Member
Banning books (and such) is a singularly stupid thing to do. Stupid and counterproductive.
Do you mean banning any book and such is a singularly stupid thing to do and is stupid and counterproductive? Why is that?
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Recently hear some people talking about banning movies, tv show/drama, games and music which contain immoral/terrify/voilent/sexual element. (books should also include in that category)
Do you agree that they should be ban?
On what criteria qualify to ban it? How much content of immoral/terrify/voilent/sexual qualify to ban it?

There're religion's holy book which also contain many immoral/terrify/voilent/sexual element, like murder, raping, slavery, genocide, wipe out everyone on the earth except a few people, threatening of eternity burning, stoning rebellious children, killing babies, people who work on sunday should be put to death.
Should we also ban the holy book who have many elements as describe above?

Let's start by banning all of the religions who's holy books mention killing in a positive manner, then all the ones that tell people to hate other people, and then let's ban all the ones that think they can tell other people what to think or force them to do things in the way that they want. After that, let's ban anyone that stops people from learning or discussing any topic of interest, and promote intelligence for once. Let's also ban the people who prevent inquiry and insult history with their lies. Of course, certain content is not suited for minors, and that's because we protect our children if we can. But, that doesn't mean we hide the truth from them when they are old enough to reason.

Ultimately, certainly religions are not happy until either everyone joins them or dies. Those religions need to be banned. They also seem to be the ones that cause the most problems on all of the other fronts as far as harming people and making us stupider.

For a bunch of morally superior people, they can't stop abusing children nor can they stop killing each other long enough to show it.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
No. Nothing should be banned. Even Libertine literature or morbid underground exploitation media.

Besides some of my favourite online critics review such material and without it I would not have them to entertain me!!!! (Cinema Snob, Kyle Kallgren and Diamanda Hagen.)
 

Raahim

مكتوب
Banning those things is stupid, there should however be more control over it.
But that they should remove such content from newspapers (both in print & online) I agree, I kinda don't want to see some starlet with gigantic breasts in bikini right next to the report on how some idiot massacred someone, that doesn't belong to news. I have nothing against that type of magazines, but clean the general news from that content.
 

Cassandra

Active Member
People should stop putting everything in black/white thinking which seems to be the only mindset these days in the US. You are either for or against it. Both are equally stupid. It makes it a sort of war in which you have to chose the right party to support. Are you Christian and support the Christian side, or are you Liberal and support the liberal side. Everything is turned into religion and politics that way.

There is good reason to keep stuff out of the public domain, without creating a total ban. But the only choice people consider is total freedom or total ban. both are controlled by fear.
 
Last edited:

Subhankar Zac

Hare Krishna,Hare Krishna,
Maybe for children... But for adults, I doubt it.
But we all have different notions of immortality. I find quarreling, starting a fight and boxing, wrestling in public a huge turn off. I can't stand a fight or go into one.
Others may find Christianity offensive or science as immoral too.

Terrifying, violent and sexually violent elements could be banned... But a better way to fight these is to understand the story behind them.
Banning them won't help much as se humans will find new ways to cause destruction to other living beings.
But small preventing measures like stop glorifying unwanted violence in public, TV and boxing rings, stop clapping at scenes where a guy has sex with two women after lying to them and later gets glory for being a "real man".

Education is the best tool to fight evil and ignorance.
 

Subhankar Zac

Hare Krishna,Hare Krishna,
As mature, rational adults, I don't think we really need any sort of self-appointed authority to wipe our bottoms and shield our delicate minds.

Mature rational adults, huh?
Sounds about right that in a world of mature rational adults, children are being sold as slaves, women captured are raped, poorer people have no money left in the world while the rich are getting richer, brothers fight with each other over a woman, inheritance or a piece of land.
Yes... We are very rational by our examples of action in 2016.

And hate speech, ISIS recruiting members, hate symbols, etc should not be banned as well?
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Mature rational adults, huh?
Sounds about right that in a world of mature rational adults, children are being sold as slaves, women captured are raped, poorer people have no money left in the world while the rich are getting richer, brothers fight with each other over a woman, inheritance or a piece of land.
Yes... We are very rational by our examples of action in 2016.

And hate speech, ISIS recruiting members, hate symbols, etc should not be banned as well?

All of which are condemned by rational, mature adults. At least mainly in the Western World (I'm sure in most parts of the world as well. Albeit to varying degrees.) Some even try various activist activities to attempt to reduce such awful occurrences.

Hate speech of many varieties and inciting violence are already banned. Hate symbols are a little more trickier to ban. I see you identify as a Hindu, so I assume you're already very familiar with the Western automatic interpretation of the Swastika as a hate symbol.

Humans are an awful animal to be sure. But we're not without our softer less savage side.
 
Last edited:

Subhankar Zac

Hare Krishna,Hare Krishna,
All of which are condemned by rational, mature adults. At least mainly in the Western World (I'm sure in most parts of the world as well.) Some even try various activist activities to attempt to reduce such awful occurrences.

Humans are an awful animal to be sure. But we're not without our softer less savage side.

Which is why Hillary is getting more votes than Bernie and Trump is soaring High in polls?
I used to believe the western world as developed and liberal once too.
It's the western nations that are getting richer, it's the western public as well who use Saudi oil and the western government's alliance with them is destabilizing human dignity in Wahabbi nations.
Humans are evil... Only a few are less evil.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Which is why Hillary is getting more votes than Bernie and Trump is soaring High in polls?
I used to believe the western world as developed and liberal once too.
It's the western nations that are getting richer, it's the western public as well who use Saudi oil and the western government's alliance with them is destabilizing human dignity in Wahabbi nations.
Humans are evil... Only a few are less evil.

Sorry, not familiar with American politics. Not American.

Humans may be evil, but banning media isn't the answer.

I mean should we ban Lolita for bordering on child pornography?
Ban The Canterbury Tales for it's sexual immorality (by some accounts)?
Ban Shakespeare for Taming of the Shrew levels of sexism?
Ban 1984 because Winston at one point expresses a desire to rape a woman?
Ban Moby Dick because of it's lust for vengeance? (Vengeance is mine, so sayeth the Lord.)

You start banning books, movies, what have you, for "immorality" you'll have next to no Literary canon and next to no thought provoking stories.
You might as well just get rid of all art ever to exist.
And who did that? Sounds familiar. Oh yeah, The World Controllers and Big Brother in order to deconstruct humanity at it's very core. No thank you, I value human culture.
 
Last edited:

Subhankar Zac

Hare Krishna,Hare Krishna,
Sorry, not familiar with American politics. Not American.

Humans may be evil, but banning media isn't the answer.

Oh... Sorry. I m an Indian though but this Time elections are extra spicy there. So, find it very amusing.

Media shouldnt be banned, just some things should be stopped from being glorified. But I'd feel comfortable is boxing, wrestling, martial arts are simply to teach for self defense n not as a tool to bully others.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Oh... Sorry. I m an Indian though but this Time elections are extra spicy there. So, find it very amusing.

Media shouldnt be banned, just some things should be stopped from being glorified. But I'd feel comfortable is boxing, wrestling, martial arts are simply to teach for self defense n not as a tool to bully others.

American politics are very amusing.

Well they are. But how they are used depends on the user. Not the teacher, unfortunately.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Do you mean banning any book and such is a singularly stupid thing to do and is stupid and counterproductive? Why is that?

Mate, you ban a book and you guarantee that the sales of said book skyrocket.
 
Top