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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Policy, Jan 12, 2022.

  1. Seeker of White Light

    Seeker of White Light Free spirit

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    I can only speak from my own understanding, and its a lot i have not yet understood.
     
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  2. Seeker of White Light

    Seeker of White Light Free spirit

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    That is what sufism is about, understand how to open up to see God.

    Material world is not important in the big picture, it will be gone one day. Same as my body.
     
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    F1fan Well-Known Member

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    You seem to be distressed nonetheless.
     
  4. Policy

    Policy Well-Known Member
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    I'm sorry, that I cannot accept a logical contradiction as a valid response. You can have an omnipotent god that is capable of everything, or you can have a god with limits. You cannot have both.
     
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    F1fan Well-Known Member

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    But it's not your understanding. You're listening to what others say is true. Have you considered that is the problem?
     
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  6. Seeker of White Light

    Seeker of White Light Free spirit

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    I am in a uncomfortable situation, because I can see where many people going, they are going to suffer and I wish I could save them from suffering. But I can not.
    They have to awaken to it them selves.
     
  7. Seeker of White Light

    Seeker of White Light Free spirit

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    Its ok you dont understand.
     
  8. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    Well, that you can't accept a logical contradiction is in your brain, that doesn't tell you if a logical contradiction is possible for the universe and/or God as such.
    You are mixing metaphysics/ontology and logic.
     
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  9. Seeker of White Light

    Seeker of White Light Free spirit

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    It is my understanding, because even I listen to others, I am the one who sitting at home every day pondering about what I have read, heard or seen each day.
    I am not one who blindly follow just because someone tell me "this is how it is"
    I ask questions toward everything.

    ( but since I do it at home alone, people in RF does not see that part of the practice)
     
  10. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    So what is the limit to the law of non-contradiction? You should know, because you have checked?
     
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  11. Seeker of White Light

    Seeker of White Light Free spirit

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    What is the answers you looking for @F1fan and @Policy

    What do you expect a believer to answer you?
    How much time each day are you using to study the scriptures or speaking with people from different religious faiths to gain a deeper understanding what they believe in?

    Are you unbiased when you seeking the answers, or are you looking to find faults in scriptures vs what believers actually believe?
     
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  12. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    Well, I will answer as a believer. We all try to find out how to cope as humans. The joke is that some people try to claim authority over something they don't have authority over, but they can only see that in everybody else, because they don't doubt that they have authority as they in effect claim.
    And that has nothing to do with religion or not.
     
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  13. Truthseeker

    Truthseeker Non-debating member when I can help myself

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    You are wrong about that. And I suspect you know it.
     
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  14. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    Well, he is neither right or wrong. He is using his brain differently that you.
     
  15. Truthseeker

    Truthseeker Non-debating member when I can help myself

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    He just demonstrated a lack of ego, and you don't see it.
     
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    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    Who told you that?
     
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    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    And who told you that?
     
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    Timing might have been a bit out here, but Ive often felt Bowie was a kind of prophet...

     
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  19. Seeker of White Light

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    It is my understanding from teaching, teacher but I have ponder about it for a long time, so the word and thoughts is from my own understanding
     
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    Seeker of White Light Free spirit

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    It is from how I understand it to be.
     
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