Bad karma punishment

[beenherebeforeagain]

But I have read that no matter what good you deed you must suffer for bad things you did. And for all bad things you need to suffer.

And you must also be rewarded for all the good things you did...actually, I don't think that's what the concept is...there's a balance...

I'm not positive, but I think you are conflating and confusing the beliefs of different schools of thought, and tending to focus almost exclusively on the bad/negative side, and ignoring the rest...just an observation...

 

[Oleh]

That is why I am asking Hindus here. I feel terrible. I need answers.

 

[Jumi]

A lot of religions have hells. I'd stop worrying about any of them and just be a better person if you're worried that you've been intentionally bad.

 

[RabbiO]

What's a tenn?

The number after ninne and right before elevenn?

Or maybe the OP meant to type "teenager"?

 

[Oleh]

The number after ninne and right before elevenn?

Or maybe the OP meant to type "teenager"?

Sorry, yes, teenager

 

[Oleh]

A lot of religions have hells. I'd stop worrying about any of them and just be a better person if you're worried that you've been intentionally bad.

I cannot proof the hell does not exist. That is why I suffer. I need to know how to avoid it.

 

[RabbiO]

@Oleh -

If you have just started learning about religions, I suspect that you really don't know much about any of them. You might want to tell us a bit about yourself - the traditions you were brought up, what religions you have been exploring and exactly what those explorations have entailed, how detailed they have been.

 

[Fool]

Hi, I started learning different religions. Unfortunately, I haven't chosen any yet but I always tend to believe the worst. According to Hinduism, if you have bad karma you will be burned in hell. I can't stop to fear. I feel so desperate that I wont to commit suicide. Sorry if this is the wrong topic. Is there any hinduist who can advise me how to survive being burned in hell. I can't live in constant fear of karma punishment. It is not life, it is hell.

hell is a state of mind. fear is its foundation.

those who's cup spills over with love has no need to fear.





In my dream I was drowning my sorrows
But my sorrows, they learned to swim
Surrounding me, going down on me
Spilling over the brim
Waves of regret and waves of joy
I reached out for the one I tried to destroy
You, you said you'd wait
'Til the end of the world

 

[Oleh]

@Oleh -

If you have just started learning about religions, I suspect that you really don't know much about any of them. You might want to tell us a bit about yourself - the traditions you were brought up, what religions you have been exploring and exactly what those explorations have entailed, how detailed they have been.

Probably I have some anxiety disorder. Because instead of believing in good religion I believe and fear of punishments like bad karma or Muslim sharia law. I grew up in Christian country and that is the best religion for me. It teaches to love so much. And sometimes I even feel that God is overwhelmingly loving. But I can't stop being afraid that I will be punished for my sins.

 

[Nakosis]

I cannot proof the hell does not exist. That is why I suffer. I need to know how to avoid it.

I suppose you have to trust God to do the right thing. Don't you think you should pay the consequences for whatever it is you did? If there is a God and you end up in hell, that's probably where you belong.

I don't know what happens when you die but I think a person has to stand up and accept the consequences of their actions. If I face God and God decides I go to hell I'll figure that's justice. You can't hide from yourself, you can't hide from God so accept the fate your actions brought you to.

Usually the fear of facing the consequences is worse than the actual consequences themselves. The fear of hell is hell. Why face hell twice?

 

[Vinayaka]

Sorry, yes, teenager

Most of us, as teenagers, weren't smart. When we reflect back on it, we can see that. It goes with the territory of learning limits.

 

[Oleh]

I suppose you have to trust God to do the right thing. Don't you think you should pay the consequences for whatever it is you did? If there is a God and you end up in hell, that's probably where you belong.

I don't know what happens when you die but I think a person has to stand up and accept the consequences of their actions. If I face God and God decides I go to hell I'll figure that's justice. You can't hide from yourself, you can't hide from God so accept the fate your actions brought you to.

Usually the fear of facing the consequences is worse than the actual consequences themselves. The fear of hell is hell. Why face hell twice?

Thanks for your response. But I can't live with that feeling of being doomed to hell. How can you just accept that fact that your skin will be burned in hell?

 

[Vinayaka]

Probably I have some anxiety disorder. Because instead of believing in good religion I believe and fear of punishments like bad karma or Muslim sharia law. I grew up in Christian country and that is the best religion for me. It teaches to love so much. And sometimes I even feel that God is overwhelmingly loving. But I can't stop being afraid that I will be punished for my sins.

A good start would be to think of someone else, and their situation, rather than your own. I have observed that most people in this state are self-absorbed.

 

[Vinayaka]

Thanks for your response. But I can't live with that feeling of being doomed to hell. How can you just accept that fact that your skin will be burned in hell?

Look, it's not a fact. It's a scare tactic, no different than watching some scary movie. Do you go to a scary movie, and believe that whatever happened on the screen will also happen to you?

 

[Nakosis]

Thanks for your response. But I can't live with that feeling of being doomed to hell. How can you just accept that fact that your skin will be burned in hell?

I see existence is better than non existence. Whatever the circumstances. People here on earth face unimaginable suffering daily. There is nothing that hell can bring that people better than me haven't faced. Why should I suffer less if it is what I truly deserve?

 

[Fool]

Thanks for your response. But I can't live with that feeling of being doomed to hell. How can you just accept that fact that your skin will be burned in hell?

if your body is in the earth then how do you have tactile senses?

 

[Valjean]

I dont understant you.

Sorry. Ask a specific question

But I have read that no matter what good you deed you must suffer for bad things you did. And for all bad things you need to suffer.

You're putting an Abrahamic overlay on a religion (?) where it absolutely does not fit.
All this reward and punishment, Heaven and Hell stuff is Abrahamic.

Yes, you'll find all sorts of stories and folklore among the Hindu people -- Gods and devils, heroes and villains, Heavens and Hells, monsters of all sorts. Stop worrying about it. It's all just folklore, like Hansel and Gretel or Red riding Hood; like good Christians turning into angels when they die, playing harps in the sky and being issued wings. It's not serious Hindu theology.

The religions of Abraham are about an all-powerful, judgemental lawmaker, constantly surveilling His creation, sentencing "sinners" -- those who break His rules -- to eternal torment, and "the righteous" to eternal reward. This is Not Hinduism.

Serious Hindu theology -- scholarly Hinduism -- Is metaphysical, it's about consciousness, the nature of Reality and perception, not about rules.
There is no Real heaven or Hell. There are levels of reality and levels of consciousness enabling us to perceive, and "live in" different worlds/realities.
I can discuss this further if you're still interested in going down this strange path.

...and quit worrying about everything. You're not in danger. It's all just faerie stories to scare children. This scary life's just a blue-pill illusion.

 

[SomeRandom]

You're living in hell right now by the sounds of it.
Hindus (tend to) believe that to be our true selves one has to connect to the ultimate source. But there are stories of "wicked people" going to heaven as it were. I forget the name, but there is a tale where a king endlessly thought about killing an incarnation of God on earth. When he died, he went straight to heaven, for as Vishnu claimed, he always had God on his mind.
Hindus want their existence destroyed, their conciousness to be freed from life itself and absorbed into the universe. Heaven and hell are mere pit stops on the journey. A purification ritual rather than some punishment or indeed reward. Just try not to hurt other people and you'll be fine.

 

[crossfire]

But I have read that no matter what good you deed you must suffer for bad things you did. And for all bad things you need to suffer.

Getting over greed, hatred and delusion is painful. Focus on fixing the greed hatred and delusion within yourself so you don't continue to commit bad deeds.

 

[sun rise]

You're living in hell right now by the sounds of it.

You reminded me of a short scene from the movie Gandhi about hell: