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Atheists you suck at being atheists.

Discussion in 'Philosophy' started by David T, Jul 5, 2019.

  1. David T

    David T Well-Known Member
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    I am a breatharmirian we believe we breathe. The anti breathairians dont believe we breathe. We get together and debate.. They callnus religious fanatics and we call them lost heathens.
     
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    Apparently English isn't a 3rd language for you, so thanks for acknowledging that I had a good reason. Sorry for ruining your early celebration of victory for assuming taking away your crutches will hinder an atheist from giving a different reason. Also thanks for showing that you're a hypocrite for having to resort to using one of your crutches for argument. :thumbsup:

    May you walk in peace with your crutches. :peace:
     
  3. David T

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    2 year olds
     
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    I suck at being an atheist, I only realise I AM one when people start going on about God. And when they stop going on about God, I immediately forget about it again. Like an atheist on a zero-hours contract, no real commitment or enthusiasm.
     
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    Even 2 year olds have good reasons without the need for your crutches. :thumbsup:
     
  6. David T

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    When you learn how to read maybe you can get back to me.
     
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    When you're able to have mature and honest discussion without getting all emotional, then we can have one.
     
  8. wandering peacefully

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    Religion is all about community. A gathering of folks who all agree to the particular set of beliefs and rituals which make them feel they are not alone and there is more to life than just life.

    It is part of being a human animal. We need each other until the point arrives that the other community over that hill tries to take resources from our own group. Then our religions don't seem to be very helpful.

    It is nice to daydream about all of the possibilities of the universe and the gods who may control it....but it is just that and has nothing to do with our current survival or the other animals on this planet surviving. We really can't afford to take any dogma or daydreaming seriously anymore .

    Dream on about a meaning for existence and the workings of the universe but get on board about paying attention to what is actually happening in the here and now is my opinion .
     
  9. David T

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    Thomas berry said the old narrative is broken we await a new narrative. I think thats extremely consistent with what you are saying.

    I was talking to a young guy about guitars. I started to mention how music playing used to be communal before commercial.. He said he was with 8 players at this party they played for 3 hours. He said it was awesome. Sometimes maybe one needs to pick up the music and play.

    I have started a new church!, its called breathairism. Many believe we breathe others do not believe we breathe, they too are a part of this church. There are those who are uncertain as to wether we breathe or not.
    I am a mystic in that faith "i know" they find my words difficult to comprehend i hace to talk in riddles

    You are more than welcome to join. Pick your catagory 1,2 3, or 4!!!! .
     
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    If religions actually did act like clubs I think there'd be a lot more harmony in the world, but they don't. They often act as guardians pf a particular existential doctrine, and enforce it militantly.
    I don't see Elks and Kiwanis squabbling like this.
    These tribal peoples are more culturally homogenous than complex, diversified societies. Military, religious and food procurement strategies aren't clearly differentiated.
     
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    "More culturally homogenous than complex"..can you please expand on this thought?

    Also, who would the "culturally more complex" humans be if you please?
     
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    I'm sorry I really do not understand what you are saying. Can you please try again? I know you are into nature from your posts. But beyond thar, I do not understand your purpose.

    Edit. I like your photography. If you are into Instagram, I run a feed @mountains_seas__and_trees. Tag me or send a pm. I would like to see more of your work. Thanks.
     
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    I breathe too. But how much relaxing breathing can one do when faced with the realities and understanding of what is actually happening?
     
  14. David T

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    Well lets see "we believe we breathe!!!"

    So at some level there is a bit of absurd truth in that!
    Now i am equally pointing to "we do not believe we breathe"

    So if "we believes" and "we dont believes" get together to argue. What do they share in common?

    Two people can be pretty out to lunch together and find commonality in that. Thats totally normal. Nothing odd about it common.

    Looking forward to a response!
     
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    Ya believe ya breathe? !!!!!
     
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    In primitive societies there is little specialization -- no specialized builders, hunters, religious specialists, or tool makers. Everyone's a Jack-of-all-trades.
    Everyone's socially and materially equal. There's no social stratification; no rich or poor.
    A hunter-gatherer lifestyle precludes amassing any possessions that can't comfortably be carried on your back, so greed and acquisitiveness are unknown.
     
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    I'm not sure what the breathe believers have in common with the a-breathers. Except the fact that if one doesn't breathe, they will surely die. It is an easily proven argument. But I guess having oxygen necessary for believers and non-believers might cause them to come together to protect their oxygen. But we don't even do that as a species.

    Breathe on. I have no problem joining your church.
     
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    Okay, thanks I see what you are saying. It still amazes me every time I think about how the hunter gatheres and tribes kept this continent for 11,000+ years without completely killing each other off and destroying the natural resources. Although the mega-fauna demise has been attributed to them but the water, air and land was mostly intact when Europeans arrived. It has taken only 300 years or so to completely alter11,000 years of protected and worshipped nature.

    We definitely should consider how these people managed all of those thousands of years.

    There were actually some specialists even during that time. Tool makers, hide scrapers, clothes makers, hunters, cooks, holy men and gatheres. But it was only split between men and women for the most part. Even when tribes started settling in villages they seem to understand that material possessions were only useful if they contributed to survival. They did begin to keep ceremonial items for religious purposes but even then it was a reasonable amount as is found in burials and other archaeological sites.

    We obviously can't go back to living like that but maybe we could live more like they did. I don't see religions being any part of that plan except maybe Zen Buddism or other minimalist belief systems and of course, Native American belief systems.

    If we believe we are on God's bible plan well, we all know how that turns out so it becomes self-fulfilling.

    We have progressed in medicine and technology but sort of regressed in the ecological and worship department. Especially we have gone backwards in the desire individually to obtain as much "stuff" as we possibly can at whatever cost it is which is totally ignored by modern society.

    Okay, that really wasn't part of the topic but I got on a roll. Thanks for the comments.
     
  19. David T

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    Its a simple act but everyone seems to over think it. And then we debate our over thinking about breathing. convinced we are thinking. I pretty quickly remind everyone oh no you are not breathing try it ya might like it.
    I call it mental disordering. It can be OGD, OR OSD,,OR OMD. Oh god did it, or Oh Science did it, or Oh math did it. Seems to eminate from books.

    They appear to be attracted to each other and repulsed by each other at the same time! They behave like crocodiles. Very primative!
     
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    I'm sorry, I have tried to understand your writing. I am not being very successful but I imagine what you are saying is very important in your life. As in I have absolutely no idea who the "They" is in the above comment.

    Actually, when I breathe purposefully, I am thinking about nothing but my breath. That is a ritual which can be successfully practiced by everyone and would harm no one. It is the only "mystic practice" that has scientific backing for bringing about more clarity about what we are actually doing in this life. If I were a proselytizer, that is what I would preach about.

    So you have at least 2 church members if that is the sum total of your doctrines.
     
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