Atheists : something from nothing?

[Silver]

These are questions for atheists mainly but anybody can answer.

How can a universe come into existence from nothing?
How can the big bang happen from nothing?
Surely there must be an intelligence behind it?
Surely nothing creates/produces nothing?

Silver

 

[Kerr]

No one said it comes from nothing, we just don´t know what was before . Think the "M theory", or whatever it is called, talks about that, though...

 

[McBell]

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[Willamena]

It's not an atheistic position that the universe or the singularity that sparks the Big Bang comes into being from nothing. The universe may be everlasting. Personally, I think there is an intelligence behind it --you, me, him, her, each of us.

 

[Silver]

It's not an atheistic position that the universe or the singularity that sparks the Big Bang comes into being from nothing. The universe may be everlasting.

Surely the universe can be expected to contain nothing, forever. Just an emptiness.
As soon as something comes into existence there must be a reason for it....an intelligence perhaps.
Without an intelligence/God I would expect an everlasting emptiness to exist.

Silver

 

[dogsgod]

Why assume that existence came from nothing?

 

[Willamena]

Surely the universe can be expected to contain nothing, forever. Just an emptiness.
As soon as something comes into existence there must be a reason for it....an intelligence perhaps.
Without an intelligence/God I would expect an everlasting emptiness to exist.

Silver

Surely the universe can equally be expected to contain something, forever. Including nothing and emptiness, as we make them somethings.

 

[dogsgod]

Observation suggests that intelligence is a product of evolution, not the other way around.

 

[Willamena]

Observation suggests that intelligence is a product of evolution, not the other way around.

And that conclusion, folks, was reached by combining observation with intelligence. *bow*

 

[Silver]

Surely the universe can equally be expected to contain something, forever.

I can't get my head around that.

 

[McBell]

I can't get my head around that.

Why not?

Are you taking the position that by default there has to nothing before there can be something?

Does this nothing also include all the possible deities?
Meaning, when you say "nothing" do you really mean "nothing" or do you mean "nothing but..."

 

[Willamena]

I can't get my head around that.

Something comes from something before...

 

[Silver]

Why not?

Are you taking the position that by default there has to nothing before there can be something?

Does this nothing also include all the possible deities?
Meaning, when you say "nothing" do you really mean "nothing" or do you mean "nothing but..."

If there is no God/Intelligence-being in existence, and if there has to be nothing before, then I would expect that nothing to continue, forever. As soon as something comes into existence (a string for example, or energy) then I would expect a God/intelligence to exist.

 

[McBell]

If there is no God/Intelligence-being in existence, and if there has to be nothing before, then I would expect that nothing to continue, forever. As soon as something comes into existence (a string for example, or energy) then I would expect a God/intelligence to exist.

Why?
I mean why does a god/intelligence have to exist at all, let alone from the very beginning?

 

[Willamena]

If there is no God/Intelligence-being in existence, and if there has to be nothing before, then I would expect that nothing to continue, forever. As soon as something comes into existence (a string for example, or energy) then I would expect a God/intelligence to exist.

Doesn't that part in red indicate that nothing has not "continued forever"? Doesn't that indicate that there was something before?

 

[Silver]

Why?
I mean why does a god/intelligence have to exist at all, let alone from the very beginning?

Because otherwise this universe/multiverse/system would be empty/a system of nothingness.

 

[McBell]

Doesn't that part in red indicate that nothing has not "continued forever"?

Seems to me that if there was ever a time when there was absolutely nothing, then there would always be absolutely nothing.

The problem is when people make the claim that God willed himself from absolute nothingness, then claim that something cannot come from nothing.

 

[Willamena]

Because otherwise this universe/multiverse/system would be empty/a system of nothingness.

There are a few philosophies from which it is the case.

 

[McBell]

Because otherwise this universe/multiverse/system would be empty/a system of nothingness.

Are you claiming that for there to be anything at all there has to be god?
That does not follow.

 

[Silver]

Doesn't that part in red indicate that nothing has not "continued forever"? Doesn't that indicate that there was something before?

Because something exists, the conclusion I reach, then, is that God/Intelligent-being existed before in the beginning.