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Featured Atheists: If God existed would God… (Continued)

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Trailblazer, Aug 3, 2022.

  1. rational experiences

    rational experiences Well-Known Member

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    When everyone is born a human baby.

    And just human men began self idolisation. I know women were given some titles. So idolised also I'm a special human too.

    And everyone agrees on the very first advice in science only as two humans existed. In total self presence a human as the human.

    And it's fact of human science and truth. You can't say human fact unless a human says it.

    Sex. Allows any human it's gained life.

    So my brother said my human mother had an immaculate conception. And he was born a super human baby.

    Remembering super as a man meant who gained the power of God in human science. Memory.

    As fact.... I own my human mother's consciousness and memory. You don't brother.

    My mother said you were discussing theoretic science and medical outcomes only. Thesis. Bible. What the testimony was about. Human thesis.

    Never were you special.

    So when you can get over yourself man human. Maybe you can become rational again.

    The history said man scientist by his God earth built by mixture two forces sun.. earth...his machine caused heavens gas change...nuclear. Attacked our human genesis.

    Man scientist theist was himself eradicated out of human DNA. A pity you didn't remain gone. Both bodily and consciously. As science doesn't get practiced when the mind doesn't express it.

    Ignored advice. Stephen Haw king last scientists warning model.

    Yet due to gas mass replacement by the star mass...not your father human man said the exact quote....mantle cloak of many colours..... The immaculate mass gone burnt out by the UFO ark fall......allowed human life cell to heal.

    As it was enabled body mass presence also in cooling. Replaced immaculate all pressures change. Water remains holy. Oxygen regenerates cell health returns.

    As today we see in day light extra sacrifice UFO sun burn mass back to dark space. As cold gas is being burnt out by our satanic nuclear brothers forbidden technology.

    Increased opened space involves increased heavens earth pressure changes and lots of natural disasters.

    Our equal just a human brother by the way began his human science belief as son of man journey. First As a king. As a prophet who predicted maths calculus. And as a lord in trade wealth technology.

    Lording and self Idolating first position. Not holy advice whatsoever.

    Then he chemically imbalanced his brain. Like being on drugs. By star fall sun mass attack. Technology caused.

    Hence when star fall began ...he had historic caused it. Seeing the moon proved earth was stopped being attacked by the sun asteroid mass......
    He then saw visions of his own science man self reappear.

    The prophet maths calculus man. Image return in vision.

    Just like I did in attack. Visions of old men in science. Once I saw a flashing frame appear floating in my bedroom Of historical men in science. I was awake. I checked I was awake. Flashing I saw his visionary thinking self appear.

    Each time it flashed...a new period costume denoted his era. Same cause...same outcome...same visioned recording.

    As the teaching is exact. Old science had manifested conjured back what modern machine science designer man now uses. Images of everything.

    He uses it in his man made designed human machines himself. Notice it's why he says he's part machine when he's not. That thought is the only reason he thinks just his life will be living in a machine future.

    Meaning the amount of water mass halved taken is constant. Until the UFO attack goes away. It hadn't stopped. Proven by modern day human visionary adbuction and bio cell changes in the attack.

    Ice saviour body sacrificed evidence its disappearing. Our life saviour. The body mass that keeps gases cooled exact.

    Science was outlawed to allow the spatial void to remove the known attack. Human caused.

    As science knew it was leaving. Unlike Moses that hit. The new event outcome had varied.

    Therefore you were sexually conceived human brother not by God heavens returned. You said exact terms in your own documents. As Joseph Seph iroth terms. Said it wasn't the human father.

    God was.

    God to a man is your human father.

    Now if you want to continue to argue....think about your terms taught human brother....

    You human brother protested satanic science. As a human. As a son of a man. As baby man yourself.

    You stated any title God was given by the legal man. Claiming what belonged to God by definitions is the highest body type.

    So any God term such as dusts. Sulphur a God. Dolomite a God. Notice not anything alike. But God defined.

    You said father the human man a God. By defining not Satan and not alien.

    As today you'd ask a scientist cloning embryos. Are you trying to prove to your satanic brother by your satanic meddling that life only belongs on earth Inside of earths heavens? And didn't come from any alien?

    Human bone already owned that proof.

    Mr human idolator science self greedy man history....I think I'm a God as I named myself a God?

    No human living as the human....
    No God talk either. Reason a human can make the claim legal as all humans die.

    As when a human man whose done all medical studies first of everything. Then tried occult cloning embryos you must think youre god don't you..and not just a human man doing human science?

    As if God cloned a baby who was going to nurture protect it? Certainly not a man or are you trying to reject human women in life entirely?...
    Homosexual thoughts too. Im both human types in one body.

    When an ovary changes into man's cell body type or keeps itself female.

    No different in theist thoughts today than a man claiming Immaculate conception without human interactive sex before. Same thinker mind already changed beliefs.

    So if you say. My brother life sacrificed removed his holy baby presence out of DNA. Real.

    He was a king of the Jews. As Jewish humans were slaves. Poor. Not rich men King's scientists.

    Instead a man baby not associated to historic rich man lord king scientist of the past was hurt too. Not fair only the human who was the satanic theist should have been sacrificed.

    Was the teaching. Why should innocent family lose their life because of rich man's evil technology greed?

    Associated meaning once a Jew was with the origin Egyptian parent DNA family. Just as rich also before technology separated the family groups. A teaching quote.

    True history.

    Therefore one man transmitting sound Phi mind contact to human biology experiments said. I've contacted adult biology. I believe I just created the human adult myself. My god is phi alien crop circles.

    Is why I said so do transmit that idea to an empty space....no human.

    With his brother embryo technology....for machine science of course as we're part machine.

    Therefore it's why humanity is in a lot of trouble for pretending a man scientist was a God.
     
  2. samtonga43

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    But atheists do not hold God responsible. They neither blame nor give credit. You find it ironic because you don't understand how debate between Theists and Atheists 'works'.
     
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    But some of us KNOW that we can't back it up with anything other than our faith and trust in what we believe. ;)
     
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    They do not believe that God exists. What is it about this you don't understand?
     
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  5. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Yup, been there that's why now i am only playing and go home when ive had enough.
     
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    All humans say beyond doubt some type existed before created creation.

    A human just a thinker says I'll look at what I see...then make up a scenario.

    Why?

    Youre just a human. You live on a rock planet. You live inside it's heavens.

    Your conscious bio precepts equal mutual human owned first. Seen observed consensus human.

    How can you think beyond where you live claiming identification about what you aren't?

    You think. My behaviour human is involved in any choice.

    You think O planet formed in space no heavens. Exact. You know you don't even exist.

    Exactly advised. Advice then asks you why are you theorising. Your not in space!!!!!

    I thought. Okay.

    If space is just a hole and the mass wasn't held as O and was just flat.

    It would mean space is a thin plane only.

    O mass burnt held pushed out in all directions.

    Oh I said must be why my brother just a human said space was like a human woman's womb.

    Which would state space was a cause of burning only.

    And if gases cooled stretched out from O as the heavens. How far away from earth did it flow?

    It was filling in and up space. To our thinking we would believe it travelled across the universe itself. Plane of space.

    Then a cooling sun bigger cooling like planets burst.

    Compressed reacted heavens.

    No human could be there in those conditions.

    Also no theory.

    So what type of God is believable as loving?

    Where I still belonged. An eternal God that had always existed. That released only a portion change

    And I hence didn't own any cosmic journey. I just walked across a filled in plane of space from the eternal position... has and will always exist...owned no beginning.

    Hadnt ended. Just changed a body portion. A type of God.

    So as gases came about as a non nuclear energy mass by having the void suck it into a body presence. I know gases don't convert into biology.

    And the light fuel heavens.

    One moment of earths clear cold gas mass burnt by input cold sun star mass fuel. Where it remained.

    As if it comes into a gas it burns it out.

    The type of God father's mother's memories in vision showed me where they came from. Eternal God.

    In thinking and stories it seems reasonable. As no human scientist invented my life by their thesis.
     
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    samtonga43 Well-Known Member

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    Atheists are NOT attributing only the bad to the God they don't believe in.
    Atheists are 'attributing only the bad' to the God you do believe in.
     
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    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    What if Cthulhu exists?
     
  9. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Nope, the hypocrisy shown by believers of any god or gods is what atheists point out
     
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    What makes me a hypocrite?
     
  11. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    I have no idea, i made a general comment about the misrepresentation in your post in relation to atheists blaming a particular god.

    Atheist: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.

    So mo atheists are not blaming a particular god but pointing out the hypocrisy of theists cherry picking what their god is responsible for
     
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    Correct.
     
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    I'm talking about Fundamentalist Christians that believe the Bible is the inerrant, infallible word of God and that it should be taken and believed literally. I think Baha'is believe exactly the same way about their writings. I don't know if they'd be allowed to compromise what the Baha'i writings say for the sake of getting along with people from another religion?
     
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    I understand and I agree.
     
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    You said that atheists point out the hypocrisy shown by theists. I am a theist and, I (and many others) do not cherry-pick what God is responsible for. So what makes you think I show hypocrisy?
    If I were Tb, I would advise you to beware of hasty generalizations. She would assume you had no idea what this is, and would present you with a definition and a link. I won't do this because you are obviously intelligent, and I won't 'talk down' to you.
     
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    And are you one of the hypocritical theists cherry picking what God is responsible for, Tb? Your posts would indicate that this is so.
     
  17. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    And many do.

    I did not memtion you, my comments were clear so why are you trying you pick an argument?

    Edit. BTW, @Trailblazer agrees with me that there are many hypocritical christians who cherry pick from the bible
     
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    I am pointing out that your implication that all theists cherry-pick what their god is responsible for is an exaggeration. How can you possibly construe this as
    ‘picking an argument’?
    I hope you agree that some theists are hypocrites, but not all?

    Well, not quite. Tb agreed with you that there are many hypocritical theists cherry picking what their god is responsible for.
    But I do agree that many hypocritical Christians cherry-pick from the Bible.
    And the same goes for hypocritical Bahia’s, Atheists, Agnostics, Muslims … well, you get my point?
     
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  19. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    I have never said all, i have said many which is my experience

    How? Because you are deliberately ignoring much of what i have posted in order to put forward your argument.

    Yes i get your point, you don't seem to know whats going on. Goodbye
     
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  20. CG Didymus

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    I understand why people in most any religion would be taught and think that their Scriptures are The Truth and without error. But the problem with the claims of the Baha'is is that all the major religions are true. That means that the Baha'is have to find a way to reconcile all the differences and contradictions. Like my usual complaint against the Baha'is... I think the NT clearly says that Jesus came back to life. Baha'is say, "no", that those verses were symbolic.... that Jesus was killed and stayed dead. To me, that's not believing that all religions are true... In this case, Christianity.

    All that accomplishes is to make Christianity not true. And what becomes true about Christianity is what Baha'is tell us is true. Salvation, Satan and hell, and most all the Christian doctrines get changed to mean something else. That's not believing in Jesus and the NT, that is changing it to fit the beliefs of the Baha'i Faith. If it's true, fine. Let's all become Baha'is. But there's so many problems with the ways they try and show us how and why the Baha'i Faith is true.
     
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