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Atheists and Agnostics
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No. An agnostic is a fence sitter entertaining theism and atheism.
isn't a person who has chosen to hold a lack of negative/positive belief in a god, a fence sitter? neither believing, disbelieving?
wouldn't a soft atheist be an agnostic fence sitter?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
I like how you take one definition and exclude at least one other. How come you are Authoritarian and deny us the FREEDOM to use other definitions? Are you Evil?
Yes, absolutely. All four combinations are possible:
Agnostic atheist: someone who does not believe in any deities, but doesn't think that knowledge is possible or that they are not certain.
Gnostic atheist: someone who does not believe in deities, and thinks it is possible to have knowledge on the matter.
Agnostic theist: someone who believes in a deity but does not think it is possible to have knowledge about such.
Gnostic theist: Someone who believes in a deity and believe knowledge is possible about such.
Agnostic atheist: someone who does not believe in any deities, but doesn't think that knowledge is possible or that they are not certain.
Gnostic atheist: someone who does not believe in deities, and thinks it is possible to have knowledge on the matter.
Agnostic theist: someone who believes in a deity but does not think it is possible to have knowledge about such.
Gnostic theist: Someone who believes in a deity and believe knowledge is possible about such.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
If you are still entertaining possibilities, then that means there is something there that supports theistic views even if there is a diminished view that a god or supernatural phenomenon exists.
An atheist sees no possibilities whatsoever, so the view is there is nothing whatsoever including possibilities that a God or supernatural phenomenon exists.
Yes. Otherwise it would be pointless to classify myself as a gnostic atheist.
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- viole
Nope. An agnostic is someone who doesn't think that knowledge is possible about the topic of deities. They may be theist (believe) or atheist (not believe) while still being agnostic (can't know).
not really. the person is choosing not to take a stance; so they are sitting on the fence.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
No, that would be a strong or gnostic atheist.
Not true. Most atheists do not say it is *impossible*, just that it isn't actually the case.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Your the evil one trying to muscle my nefarious plans for a world without God's. Bwahaha!I like how you take one definition and exclude at least one other. How come you are Authoritarian and deny us the FREEDOM to use other definitions? Are you Evil?
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
Yo.
Yes.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Actually it's more that there is no reason whatsoever to even remotely entertain any notion of possibility. So it remains as being one without possibility in alignment with one without God's.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Again I like how you are a gnostic atheist. I am not.
According to this chart, the only possible identifier for me would be “hot mess.”
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I see no point in entertaining any notion of God's as much as there is no point in entertaining a non existant possibility.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
That is philosophy. I do it differently.