Atheist Myth: “No One Has Ever Killed in the Name of Atheism”

[SomeRandom]

I'm showing you a link and asking your opinion of it.. What it seems like, is that some people are unwilling to acknowledge a majority of these arheist killings, even after @Augustus went through painstaking detail to outline it for you. And I do thank him for his contributions not just because he helped my case, but because his knowledge was very informative and interesting.

You listed Nazis, who proudly and very famously thanked God for his supposed support. Marxism is not the same as atheism. It’s a political movement, same as Maoism, communism etc. that’s not being Atheist last I checked, plenty of atheists reject such positions for their reasons.
De Sade even though he never murdered anyone in real life. Maybe some libertines did, I dunno. They were literal hedonists, so I wouldn’t go so far as to claim they were atheists, anti theists more like.
Le Vay hasn’t murdered anyone, that I know of, he was just straight up trolling the pearl clutching ninnies lol.
The problem with this argument is that atheism is simply a non belief in god. Anything that atheists do is not representative of a non belief. Because there are no commandments, no orders and no structured books outlining good and bad behaviour. Some atheists might use a more bleak philosophy to justify horrible things, but I don’t know if I’d go so far as to claim it was caused by atheism. Merely a byproduct of an atheistic mentality, perhaps.
With theists it’s different, because they have to justify their actions through the lens of their religious beliefs and convictions. That’s how you get literal Nazis to wear “god is with us” on their uniforms without them seeing that they were going against their own religious convictions, allegedly. I mean Jesus didn’t go around murdering people, and yet.
Like you have a bone to pick, my friend. Who hurt you?

 

[Cooky]

You call it that, you say its that, but many of us know better and see through your acts. But, I promise, it's not squirming, its anger as you accuse people of being cruel if they are intelligent, say they are living an empty shell of a life if they are athiest, and now it's murder.
Thats how it is for me, at least. First you accuse me of being cruel because Im highly intelligent, and now you accuse my "ideological neighbors" of murder, simply and only because they are Satanists. Amd you want to pretend we have much in common?

Oh, calm down... As if you've never shown bias toward the religious! You've even admitted you do in the past because of how you were treated in Indiana growing up!

...Don't be ridiculous.

 

[Cooky]

Bull ****!

That was the source, genius. Not me.

...You can address the writer of the article I cited, of which I asked peoples opinions of, but don't even dare to accuse me of penning that, when it's your own reading comprehension error that's the problem.

Wake up, Shadow. Get it together.

 

[Rival]

Oh, calm down... As if you've never shown bias toward the religious! You've even admitted you do in the past because of how you were treated in Indiana growing up!

...Don't be ridiculous.

Read your OP and then accuse others of bias.

 

[Cooky]

Read your OP and then accuse others of bias.

Huh? Is being bias against the rules now? I don't understand your point.

 

[John53]

So..?

Try reading what I quoted

 

[Rival]

Huh? Is being bias against the rules now? I don't understand your point.

Your OP is saying all of these,

"marxism, socialism, communism, maoism, Nazism, fascism, totalitarianism, libertarianism, monopolistic capitalism, robber barronism, industrialization, secularism, jingoism, anarchism, social darwinism, eugenics, malthusianism, messianic scientism, nihilism, anti-humanist terrorism, individualism, narcissism, physicalism, materialism, consumerism, modernism, postmodernism, nietzscheism, Marquis de Sade's sadism, (i.e., sadistic murders) moral relativism, hedonism, radical feminism, (i.e., abortions, infanticide, suicide, false claims of rape) radical environmentalism, (i.e., ecological terrorism) Anton LaVey's satanism, (i.e., ritual murders) and the "Law of Attraction." (i.e., the deaths, including suicides, caused by Peter Popoff, Sylvia Browne and other gurus") All of these atheistic philosophies have resulted in the deaths of countless hundreds of millions of human beings. In comparison, the deaths caused by religion seem almost quaint and insignificant."

Are responsible for murder in the name of atheism, in the hundreds of millions. And you literally included things like feminism and 'the law of attraction' (and I'm saying you because you quoted it).

How is that not sky-high bias against every single ideology or idea in that paragraph?

Also, industrialisation? Is this list a joke?

 

[John53]

Your OP is saying all of these,

"marxism, socialism, communism, maoism, Nazism, fascism, totalitarianism, libertarianism, monopolistic capitalism, robber barronism, industrialization, secularism, jingoism, anarchism, social darwinism, eugenics, malthusianism, messianic scientism, nihilism, anti-humanist terrorism, individualism, narcissism, physicalism, materialism, consumerism, modernism, postmodernism, nietzscheism, Marquis de Sade's sadism, (i.e., sadistic murders) moral relativism, hedonism, radical feminism, (i.e., abortions, infanticide, suicide, false claims of rape) radical environmentalism, (i.e., ecological terrorism) Anton LaVey's satanism, (i.e., ritual murders) and the "Law of Attraction." (i.e., the deaths, including suicides, caused by Peter Popoff, Sylvia Browne and other gurus") All of these atheistic philosophies have resulted in the deaths of countless hundreds of millions of human beings. In comparison, the deaths caused by religion seem almost quaint and insignificant."

Are responsible for murder in the name of atheism, in the hundreds of millions. And you literally included things like feminism and 'the law of attraction' (and I'm saying you because you quoted it).

How is that not sky-high bias against every single ideology or idea in that paragraph?

Also, industrialisation? Is this list a joke?

Apparently all the "isms" are atheistic except for Catholicism but he doesn't answer questions on that so who knows.

 

[SomeRandom]

He was likely some kind of providential deist or perhaps a pantheist or panentheist.

I might be misremembering, but didn’t Hitler in Mien Kampf lament that he was stuck with the rather peaceful Jesus but the Muslims had a strong warrior as their prophet?

(No offence to any Muslims reading this.)

 

[Cooky]

Your OP is saying all of these,

"marxism, socialism, communism, maoism, Nazism, fascism, totalitarianism, libertarianism, monopolistic capitalism, robber barronism, industrialization, secularism, jingoism, anarchism, social darwinism, eugenics, malthusianism, messianic scientism, nihilism, anti-humanist terrorism, individualism, narcissism, physicalism, materialism, consumerism, modernism, postmodernism, nietzscheism, Marquis de Sade's sadism, (i.e., sadistic murders) moral relativism, hedonism, radical feminism, (i.e., abortions, infanticide, suicide, false claims of rape) radical environmentalism, (i.e., ecological terrorism) Anton LaVey's satanism, (i.e., ritual murders) and the "Law of Attraction." (i.e., the deaths, including suicides, caused by Peter Popoff, Sylvia Browne and other gurus") All of these atheistic philosophies have resulted in the deaths of countless hundreds of millions of human beings. In comparison, the deaths caused by religion seem almost quaint and insignificant."

Are responsible for murder in the name of atheism, in the hundreds of millions. And you literally included things like feminism and 'the law of attraction' (and I'm saying you because you quoted it).

How is that not sky-high bias against every single ideology or idea in that paragraph?

Also, industrialisation? Is this list a joke?

Is industrialisation a religious project? Obviously not, but ultimately these are all listed by an outside source, which is not me and people are free to comment on it or not. But why highlight my bias, as if that's some kind of unusual thing in a debate setting?

 

[Cooky]

Apparently all the "isms" are atheistic except for Catholicism but he doesn't answer questions on that so who knows.

That's not the topic though, so why would he?

 

[John53]

That's not the topic though, so why would he?

If it's not the topic why would he list them in the OP? Surely asking him to explain how all those "isms" are atheistic philosophy is relevant so people can understand his point because so far it's been pointless.

 

[QuestioningMind]

Marx, Lenin, Stalin, etc.: "I think this..."

Chap on the internet who nominally claims to be rational and makes decisions based on evidence: "Actually, you are all wrong and you all think something completely different that conforms to my ideological prejudices."

If you don't grasp that Marx, Lenin, and Stalin were anti-religion because they didn't want competition and not because of any sort of atheistic ideology, there's nothing I can do to help you. They followed an ECONOMIC ideology and the influence that religion had on society was an impediment to them implementing it. It's really not that hard of a concept to understand.

 

[Cooky]

If it's not the topic why would he list them in the OP? Surely asking him to explain how all those "isms" are atheistic philosophy is relevant so people can understand his point because so far it's been pointless.

Your comment on "Catholicism" I didn't quite get. I'm not talking about anything else.

 

[John53]

Your comment on "Catholicism" I didn't quite get.

Is that the only ism that's not atheistic?

 

[Cooky]

If you don't grasp that Marx, Lenin, and Stalin were anti-religion because they didn't want competition and not because of any sort of atheistic ideology, there's nothing I can do to help you. They followed an ECONOMIC ideology and the influence that religion had on society was an impediment to them implementing it. It's really not that hard of a concept to understand.

Is that what you want people to think? Because the poster you're responding to gave good quality sources explaining how atheism was a primary tenet of the communist experiment.

 

[Cooky]

Is that the only ism that's not atheistic?

"Ism" isn't a thing. Where are you getting that from -that "isms" are either good or bad, or this or that.

..."Isms" can be anything they turn out to be. It's only linguistics.

 

[John53]

"Ism" isn't a thing. Where are you getting that from -that "isms" are either good or bad, or this or that.

..."Isms" can be anything they turn out to be. It's only linguistics.

I want to know which ones or theistic and which are atheistic. You're the one who posted the list of isms and claiming they were atheistic philosophises. I'm after some clarification so I can understand the point of your OP.

 

[Cooky]

I want to know which ones or theistic and which are atheistic. You're the one who posted the list of isms and claiming they were atheistic philosophises. I'm after some clarification so I can understand the point of your OP.

All things in the OP were compiled together as *atheistic* in nature, meaning they do not stem from religion at all.

 

[Revoltingest]

All things in the OP were compiled together as *atheistic* in nature, meaning they do not stem from religion at all.

That usage of the word has a problem....
It's so unconventional that nearly all are misreading your meaning.
Instead of "atheistic", which means disbelief in gods to us, how about....
"governmental & economic systems which aren't based in religion or disbelief thereof"