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Featured Atheism or No Intelligence Allowed

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by questfortruth, May 6, 2021.

  1. questfortruth

    questfortruth Well-Known Member

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    Dr. Richard Dawkins in a religious movie [Expelled: No Intelligence
    Allowed] said something like this: ``I am atheist because there is no
    proof that God exists." I believe it is incomplete, so, let me try to read
    between the lines: ``I am atheist because there is no [globally accepted]
    proof that God exists and I want to be atheist." Many respectful and valid
    theists say: ``I am the theist because I want so, however, there is no
    scientific proof for God yet." Richard would demonstrate an un-emotional
    reason to be an atheist if he would say: ``I am atheist because there
    is [non-debunked] proof that God does not exist."
     
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  2. Conscious thoughts

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    Maybe he has not found any proof that he him self can accept as a proof of Gods existance?
    Can God be proven 100% by use of scientific ways of proof?
     
  3. questfortruth

    questfortruth Well-Known Member

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    Dawkins, by his own words is not atheist
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...doesnt-exist/2012/02/24/gIQA7496XR_story.html


    However he is correct in saying that "there is no proof that god exists". If you think that statement is incorrect then please provide evidence
     
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    I know that paper is written by your self :) Do you have other scientists who used their findings to prove God by science?
     
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    You can't prove a negative.
    Such as, you cannot disprove the murderous shadow stalker in your room, watching your every move, waiting until you are at your most comfortable and secure before killing you. You cannot prove that is bullocks and doesn't exist.
     
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    No posting Dawkins saying he's not entirely sure god doesn't exist! You'll banish RF into the void and break the internet.:eek:
     
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  9. questfortruth

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    Proof of Theism:
    1. atheism can be strong or weak. Thus, if the strong atheistic position would be proven illogical, then the weak atheism is illogical too.
    2. Strong Atheism is not logical.
    3. Thus, theism is proven.
     
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    As you maybe know. I am not a strong believer in science or in atheism. But can i prove anyone of them being wrong in one way or the other? Nope i can not.
    If Atheists are correct. there is no God to be disproven or proven by science :confused: How would they prove something is not there, or how can science prove something is scientific proven if God is not possible to find or meassure :confused:

    How can a believer use science to prove something that can not be proven, except for their own belief and faith in it :oops: That is why i say by using scientific tools God can not be proven (at this point in time, it might happen in the future)
     
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    Atheism : disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

    That should be proof enough for anyone
     
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    Honesty. :)
     
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    The word 'proof' does not apply to these types of subjects. Is there an accepted instrument that can measure for a God or anything even paranormal? No.

    The right question is; what is most reasonable to believe all things considered.
     
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    When an atheist says: "I am atheist because there is no proof that God exists", he says a lie.
    Correct?

    The same illogical level: "I am atheist because the sky is blue."
     
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    The level of illogic in that leads me to this:

    1. You may or may not be a human. Thus, if you are not a human, what you post has no meaning and is illogical too..
    2. You are human and thus not logical.
    3. You don't exist.
     
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    When an atheist says: "I am atheist because there is no proof that God exists", he says a lie.
    The same illogical level: "I am atheist because the sky is blue."
     
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    It is the Atheists belief because of lack of scientific proof of God that lead them to say it. And it is also why they say to believers. Your belief can not be true because you can not prove it by science that God exists. So where does it lead us by telling each other that they are lying?
     
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    With all due respect. I admire your passion and persistence, but you really ought to find a good book on formal logic and critical thinking.
     
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    Incorrect. If there were proof then your faith would have no need to exist. You have faith therefore there is no proof

    The sky is observed to appear blue. Do you have such observation of god? If not your statement is illogical
     
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