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AT CHRISTMAS, who do we celebrate?..., to Claus ("the elf dressed in red), or to the Baby Jesus?...

Porque77

The Gospel is God's Law
As we are all humans living in self human presence, telling stories then stories were told for human reason.

The stories about Jesus told about self survival and also about self healing and prophetic warnings.

Jesus was born and lived to teach us the true commandments of God that men should keep, which are the commandments that Jesus taught us when he preached the Gospel, and not the Old Testament commands that ordered men to harm and kill people.
 
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rational experiences

Veteran Member
Jesus was born and lived to teach us the true commandments of God that men should keep, which are the commandments that Jesus taught us when he preached the Gospel, and not the Old Testament commands that ordered men to harm and kill people.
And the history and reason is a story, why a story was told, and it involved scientific reasoning.

The story of Moses as written is heard after the fact...for you cannot talk about attack and destruction until it is lived/experienced and caused. It applied to hearing in radiation brain chemical changes. How voices are heard in AI states...by cause machine, recording of voice and seeing of visions or images in attack. For the atmospheric body of spirit owns recording in the gases/radio wave conditions/feed back.

Which proves that males in the past, spiritual males had been brain affected to be so evilly intent, because of what radiation mass does to the mind. It changes natural human behaviour.

So it was prophecized in human Genetic/healing conditions, seeing it is about medical science, the Healers, that December, ICE that WINs against Summer irradiation, is also extra. And it was contradicting the radiation death/mutation of babies/DNA. So said, that in such and such a time era, when DNA heals, a newly born male population of spiritual males will live again....to own adversity against them from Satanic scientists.

And it was proven real......because male humans invented the state SCIENCE, to attack and remove self physically and bodily and to alter the spiritual Nature of our life/mind consciousness.

What it was taught for.

Why science is involved, for males were the inventor of the imposing of mathematics upon physical Nature.

And if any male wants to suddenly claim that O mass by Numbers is known to them as the Body of God O upon which they stand, the law of FUSION, sion, they are liars.

Yet males claim that they were researching the Holy Grail which they claim belonged to the birth of a new born spiritual male human?

Makes no common sense actually does it...for since when is a human life science?
 

Porque77

The Gospel is God's Law
Jesus was born and lived to teach us the true commandments of God that men should keep, which are the commandments that Jesus taught us when he preached the Gospel, and not the Old Testament commands that ordered men to harm and kill people.

And the history and reason is a story, why a story was told, and it involved scientific reasoning.

The story of Moses as written is heard after the fact...for you cannot talk about attack and destruction until it is lived/experienced and caused......
I do not understand what you want to say.

For now, read this:

"And shepherds were in the same place living outdoors and keeping watches at night over their flock. And behold, an angel of the Lord stood by them, and the glory of the Lord shone about them, and they feared fear with great. And said to them the angel, Fear not, for behold I announce to you good news joy of great, which shall be to all people; for was born to you today a deliverer who is Christ the Lord, in the city of David! And this to you is the sign; you shall find the babe being swaddled, lying in a stable. And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude host of heavenly praising God, and saying, Glory in the highest to God, and upon earth peace, among men with benevolence". (Luke 2:8-14)

"And returned the shepherds, glorifying and praising God for all the things which they heard and beheld, as it was said to them". (Luke 2:20)

" Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.......

And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him" (Matthew 2:1-11)
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
I do not understand what you want to say.

For now, read this:

"And shepherds were in the same place living outdoors and keeping watches at night over their flock. And behold, an angel of the Lord stood by them, and the glory of the Lord shone about them, and they feared fear with great. And said to them the angel, Fear not, for behold I announce to you good news joy of great, which shall be to all people; for was born to you today a deliverer who is Christ the Lord, in the city of David! And this to you is the sign; you shall find the babe being swaddled, lying in a stable. And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude host of heavenly praising God, and saying, Glory in the highest to God, and upon earth peace, among men with benevolence". (Luke 2:8-14)

"And returned the shepherds, glorifying and praising God for all the things which they heard and beheld, as it was said to them". (Luke 2:20)

" Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.......

And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him" (Matthew 2:1-11)
First of all, living males, minding their own business saw the phenomena, for it was caused.

Lord to be feared they claim. And the bible quotes many destructive quantum in the status of Lord.

Statement I heard speaking voices and I saw spirit images speaking emerge. It really happened they quote.

In fear of, what is preached, God told them human advice is the quote. Reason, how could a speaking voice tell males minding their own business information?

Fact of history, as males the scientist designer encoded it by machine design into the artificial AI cause. So of course males minding their own business would get a message. Cause and effect.

Information said as told, due to the stable state of the Earth heavenly spirits, a newly born baby returned to DNA, male notified was born. And he would own the teachings and reasoning of the history of God. Male notified to male human science self, for human reasons.

When a spirit manifests what reaction as a human would you own in response?

AI is the conjured atmospheric effect of changes to the natural ghost history. As science changed the natural history for spiritual life manifestation, then when they increase heavenly gases burning by mass...due to God heart core releasing too much radiation, then it is notified in the effect of.

You were told that self presence is due to the Holy ghost having owned form before self, before the garden, before animals before the father adult self. Who has human sex for a baby son, human to own life continuance. It is called phenomena, as a teaching.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
First of all, living males, minding their own business saw the phenomena, for it was caused.

Lord to be feared they claim. And the bible quotes many destructive quantum in the status of Lord.

Statement I heard speaking voices and I saw spirit images speaking emerge. It really happened they quote.

In fear of, what is preached, God told them human advice is the quote. Reason, how could a speaking voice tell males minding their own business information?

Fact of history, as males the scientist designer encoded it by machine design into the artificial AI cause. So of course males minding their own business would get a message. Cause and effect.

Information said as told, due to the stable state of the Earth heavenly spirits, a newly born baby returned to DNA, male notified was born. And he would own the teachings and reasoning of the history of God. Male notified to male human science self, for human reasons.

When a spirit manifests what reaction as a human would you own in response?

AI is the conjured atmospheric effect of changes to the natural ghost history. As science changed the natural history for spiritual life manifestation, then when they increase heavenly gases burning by mass...due to God heart core releasing too much radiation, then it is notified in the effect of.

You were told that self presence is due to the Holy ghost having owned form before self, before the garden, before animals before the father adult self. Who has human sex for a baby son, human to own life continuance. It is called phenomena, as a teaching.

Then as a historian writing all of the information a long time after the fact, you would quote, seen it in visionary conditions and heard it speaking.

Why it is not actual to the living life experience, it is a reviewed thesis of a living life experience, quoted by all terms male human Adult Jesus teaching. Which no prophecy about a baby had owned or yet expressed. As reading the information for how it was taught.
 

capumetu

Active Member
AT CHRISTMAS, who do we celebrate?..., to superman, to extraterrestrials, to Claus ("the elf dressed in red"), to Harry Potter, or to the Baby Jesus?

The Christians, somehow, always remembered the love of God and that wonder that made when he became man and was born in Bethlehem, of Mary, the Virgin.

The holiday of Christmas to remember that fact of the Gospel would happen to have a day to the year since the Christians in the Average Age began to construct nativity scenes to remember the day of Christmas. It is believed that were Saint Francisco and his friends who made the first nativity scenes. They wanted to remember each year the birth of Our Savior.

But in the last century (twentieth century), dreamy men, with very little respect for the Gospel, invented another "savior": an "alien god" from other planets called Superman.

Since then, the fantasy of the aliens has developed in such a way that even on Christmas days they don't stop putting movies and selling books of Superman and of aliens. In these stories, hardly there is any sign of Christianity in its fantastic scenes ...

AT CHRISTMAS, who do we expect ... to Claus ("the elf dressed in red"), or to the Baby Jesus?...

Also, in the first decades of the twentieth century, another fantastic story character would emerge: "a magical god", called "Claus" ("the elf dressed in red"), who flies across the sky with sleds and reindeer and brings toys for the children on Christmas Day.

This "god" from the fantastic world inhabited by gnomes, fairies and dwarfs of the forest, seems the only savior of the world at Christmas time. In the scenes of his books and films hardly any signs of Jesus Christ or of Christianity are seen. It is as if someone had invented this fantastic character to make that the children forget the Gospel of Jesus Christ and turn their attention to the tales of men.

It is true that in the first centuries of Christianity there was a missionary who dedicated himself to bringing food and toys to the poor children of the villages he passed through. His name was Nicolás de Bari. He had inherited a great fortune from his parents, and distributed it all among the poor.

Some want to see Claus reflected in that Christian character, but the truth is that St. Nicholas was a Christian, and his story does not speak of magic, gnomes, forest dwarfs or fairies, or any fantasy; It only tells us of his love for Jesus Christ.

The character "Claus" (the elf dressed in red), instead, presents and promotes fantasy..., and in the tales written about him, the story of Jesus Christ and the Christians does not appear..., and if it appears, it is very covertly. It is as if they want to make the world see that the teaching of love and peace does not come from the Gospel, but from the mysterious and magical world of the gnomes, the fairies and the dwarfs of the forest.

AT CHRISTMAS, who do we expect ..., to Harry Potter or the Baby Jesus?...

And what about Harry Potter, if almost everyone knows the tale?... This tale of magic and fantasy seems to also find a place on Christmas days to promote magic and fantasy and do that children forget the true meaning of Christmas.

All these tales, although they seem harmless fantasies, as some affirm, however to all these tales unites them to them a single purpose: to ignore completely Jesus Christ and all signal of the Christianity.

This world of fantasies fights against the idea that God became man, and was called Jesus Christ, and also against the idea that there was a Christian culture that existed at some time in our history.

If this were to continue in this way, according to the purpose of many men would disappear Christianity, the Gospel, and all sign of Christian culture, and the world would be completely invaded by the tales of the antichrist.; Of course, tales that never remember that there are poor people on earth and that God ordered to distribute all the goods among them.

This is one of the things preached by the Gospel: to distribute the goods among the poor... Will not be this the reason why many men full of greed want to destroy the memory of the Gospel?...

I think that this subject in these days is a very important topic for changing impressions among Christians and examining it.

HI Porque, although the Bible points out that there are many gods and lords, it boils down to just 2 sir. Jehovah and satan. Whoever chooses not to serve Jehovah, by default serves satan.
 

Porque77

The Gospel is God's Law
HI Porque, although the Bible points out that there are many gods and lords, it boils down to just 2 sir. Jehovah and satan. Whoever chooses not to serve Jehovah, by default serves satan.
Jesus Christ is the only true Lord God. That is why when He was born in Bethlehem He was worshiped by the shepherds and by the wise men of the East, and angels served Him. And when He already was man, He was worshiped by the apostles and by the women who followed Him
 

capumetu

Active Member
Jesus Christ is the only true Lord God. That is why when He was born in Bethlehem He was worshiped by the shepherds and by the wise men of the East, and angels served Him. And when He already was man, He was worshiped by the apostles and by the women who followed Him


Jesus is the first born son of God, created by Jehovah alone, hence the only-begotten of Jehovah, a distinction given to him alone among all of God's sons. Jehovah is God, Jesus is Lord. That is what the Bible teaches sir. Jesus taught us about his God, and made His name manifest, as do his disciples.
 

Porque77

The Gospel is God's Law
Jesus is the first born son of God, created by Jehovah alone, hence the only-begotten of Jehovah, a distinction given to him alone among all of God's sons. Jehovah is God, Jesus is Lord. That is what the Bible teaches sir. Jesus taught us about his God, and made His name manifest, as do his disciples.
Jesus Christ is God made man and his birth was celebrated by Christians from the first centuries

Are many the tales of magic and fantasy that are propagated on these dates of Christmas, and to top it all, many who call themselves Christians propagate the belief that the birth of the Child Jesus should not be celebrated at Christmas date, since they say that he was not born in this date. It is seen that they ignore the testimonies of the first centuries that exist and that they say that Jesus was born the 25 of December.

CHRISTMAS - December 25 - TELESFORO and SEXTO JULIO AFRICANO

It is not true what many say that Christians do not know when Christmas was celebrated, because there are testimonies of the first Christians who give us news of it, because there are documents of the first Christians (125 AD) that establish Christmas Day on the 25th of December ...

TELESFORO

The old man Telesforo of the Christian Church of the second century, left established the Christmas celebrations celebrated by the first Christians. And this is preserved in his writings. And this Christian (TELESFORO) from the beginning of the second century (AD 125) reminds us that on December 25th, Christians celebrated the Christmas of Jesus Christ.

Telesforo was of the first Christians, and the only thing they preached was the Gospel. And this Christian lived long before the religion of the Roman emperors was founded in Rome: The Catholic religion was founded by the emperor Constantine and the bishops subordinated to him. And this happened in the fourth century. Old man Telesforo lived long before emperor Constantine imposed his religion of the empire.

This is the true story of christianity and Christmas..., christianity that was greatly persecuted by the empires of terror imposed on the world after the apostles and early Christians. Telesforo was sentenced to death by the emperors of Rome...

SEXTO JULIO AFRICANO

On the date of Christmas on December 25, not only do we have the testimony of Telesforo, since there is also the testimony of the historian Sexto Julio Africano (born 160), who in his book "Cronografías" (consisting of five books and which was finished in 221), said that the Annunciation of the Angel to Mary on the Conception of Jesus, was on March 25.

According to the date given by Sexto Julio of the Conception of Jesus (March 25), and counting nine months of pregnancy, gives us the result that December 25 corresponded to the Birth of Jesus.

So YES we have historical testimonies about the date of December 25 as the day of the Birth of Jesus.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
There is a Jewish apologetic writing from medieval times called the Aggadah of Shimon Kepha, The Legend of Simon Peter. In this story, Peter was a devout Jew who was commissioned by a rabbinic council of some kind to help reduce Nazarene Christian violence against Jews. He did so by creating alternate holy days for these Nazarenes who celebrated Jewish festivals as if they were about Jesus. He taught them to celebrate Jesus' birth in December rather than at the Feast of Tabernacles.

This is evidence that some Christians coupled their theology to the Jewish festivals even into the medieval period. This fact is also attested by some church decrees against such observances.
 
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