AstraZeneca: To take or not to take [very clear information]
News reporter explaining the facts known so far in a simple, clear way (5 question answered):
1 what is this controversy all about?
2 what do the numbers say?
3 what do the experts say?
4 are vaccine side effects normal?
5 what should you do?
AstraZeneca: To take or not to take [very clear information]
News reporter explaining the facts known so far in a simple, clear way (5 question answered):
1 what is this controversy all about?
2 what do the numbers say?
3 what do the experts say?
4 are vaccine side effects normal?
5 what should you do?
Yes, it's safe. The chance of one of these rare blood clots is about one or two in a million, for the average adult. You run greater risks in your life every day.
But I read the risk is higher, as much as one in 100,000, i.e. ten times as much, if you are young (under 30, say). That risk equates to about the same as a woman on the contraceptive pill runs, every week. So if she takes the pill for a year, she has a 50 times greater risk of a blood clot than she does from this vaccine.
AstraZeneca: To take or not to take [very clear information]
News reporter explaining the facts known so far in a simple, clear way (5 question answered):
1 what is this controversy all about?
2 what do the numbers say?
3 what do the experts say?
4 are vaccine side effects normal?
5 what should you do?
The AstraZenica C. O. V. I. D. -19 vaccine is not yet authorized by the F. D. A.iIn the U. S. .. Last week, I received my first dose of the BioNTech-Pfizer mrna C. O. V. I. D. -19 vaccine without any adverse side effects what-so-ever. I am unaware of anybody dying from any vaccine induced immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia by taking the BioNTech Pfizer C. O. V. I. D. -19 mrna vaccine. Therefore, I'd recommend taking this vaccine instead of taking the AstraZenca C. O. V. I. D. -19 vaccine.
The AstraZenica C. O. V. I. D. -19 vaccine is not yet authorized by the F. D. A.iIn the U. S. .. Last week, I received my first dose of the BioNTech-Pfizer mrna C. O. V. I. D. -19 vaccine without any adverse side effects what-so-ever. I am unaware of anybody dying from any vaccine induced immune thrombotic thrombocytopenia by taking the BioNTech Pfizer C. O. V. I. D. -19 mrna vaccine. Therefore, I'd recommend taking this vaccine instead of taking the AstraZenca C. O. V. I. D. -19 vaccine.
Unfortunately the BioNTech vaccine is a limited resource and it is not a question of AstraZeneca vs BioNTech (or any other vaccine on the market) but the question of AstraZeneca now or any other vaccine later.
The chances of getting infected with Covid19 and having long time health defects (or a fatal short time effect) is still higher than having an aneurysm from AstraZeneca. That's why WHO and EMA still recommend AstraZeneca.
Unfortunately the BioNTech vaccine is a limited resource and it is not a question of AstraZeneca vs BioNTech (or any other vaccine on the market) but the question of AstraZeneca now or any other vaccine later.
The chances of getting infected with Covid19 and having long time health defects (or a fatal short time effect) is still higher than having an aneurysm from AstraZeneca. That's why WHO and EMA still recommend AstraZeneca.
I consider myself being very fortunate to get the best available vaccine against SARS-CoV2 virus. I suppose if the AstraZeneca Oxford C. O. V. I. D. -19 vaccine were the inly vaccine available to me, I,'d hope my natural immunity from having been infected with SARS-CoV2 would protect me from getting infecting by a variant strain of SARS-CoV2. My grandmother suffered and died from a (Edited) *stroke * I don't want to take any chances of this happening to me.
AstraZeneca: To take or not to take [very clear information]
News reporter explaining the facts known so far in a simple, clear way (5 question answered):
1 what is this controversy all about?
2 what do the numbers say?
3 what do the experts say?
4 are vaccine side effects normal?
5 what should you do?
In another hiccup for AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine, data suggest it is in fact linked to blood clots that have formed in the brains of some vaccinated people, the European Medicines Agency announced April 7.
The blood clots are incredibly rare, EMA experts say. But because COVID-19 itself is deadly and can put people in the hospital, the benefits of the vaccine still outweigh the risks, they say. “We need to use the vaccines that we have to protect us from devastating effects” of COVID-19, Emer Cooke, executive director of the EMA, said in a news conference on April 7.
I agree "deadly" is a word that is misused all the time by journalists in a very silly way, nowadays. The tendency is to use it to mean anything that can kill you, regardless of how likely it is to do so.
But, make no mistake, plenty of people either die or have long term serious health problems as a result of SARS-CoV-2. In the US, they are now suffering a wave of hospitalisation of younger people. Michigan, where the weather is still cold, is especially badly hit, with hospitals running short of capacity. (M guess is that, being a state with pockets of poverty and bad diet, there will be a lot of fat people in hospital. It is well-known that being fat makes you liable to get Covid far worse - and the Americans are the fattest people on Earth.)
I agree "deadly" is a word that is misused all the time by journalists in a very silly way, nowadays. The tendency is to use it to mean anything that can kill you, regardless of how likely it is to do so.
The reason they use it, is to create fear among people, so that the vaccines will be taken. And I do hope this is the only reason they do it, because the reality is far worse. The governments creating this huge overrated fear inhibits the immune system of people who are susceptible for it. When immune system goes down, indeed you get into trouble with Corona, because fighting Corona has everything to do with your immune system..
But, make no mistake, plenty of people either die or have long term serious health problems as a result of SARS-CoV-2. In the US, they are now suffering a wave of hospitalisation of younger people. Michigan, where the weather is still cold, is especially badly hit, with hospitals running short of capacity. (M guess is that, being a state with pockets of poverty and bad diet, there will be a lot of fat people in hospital. It is well-known that being fat makes you liable to get Covid far worse - and the Americans are the fattest people on Earth.)
Exactly, this is what should be told. The truth. And governments fail to focus on this. But I do understand. IF people would start eating more healthy, that would have a huge impact on business. Firstly the 'food industry', which is huge. Secondly the Big Pharma business. Thirdly the 'undertaker business' (minor one of course, and only short term, because in the end we all end up there).
And to be even more precise. It has not necessarily anything to do with fat people. In animal world there are Elephants and Hippopotamus which are really fatty, so maybe there are in human race also people who are naturally fat and others naturally skinny (I am not sure about this, just my thought). IF your organs are strong enough to handle the extra fat, then your immune system will not be impacted by the extra fat.
But there are cases of course that fat people are fat because of eating bad stuff or overeating, that will likely impact immune system, hence there is definitely a correlation between fat and Corona death, or more precise "bad eating habits" and Corona death.
The key is immune system. And impaired immune system is not only related to fat. I am underweight (49 kg, 1m86) due to diseases, hence I better not catch Corona. But others who are underweight, without having impaired organs probably have a good immune system, so minor or no problems when getting Corona (all depends on ones immune system)
562K deaths in the US alone makes it deadly. There have been people with and without underlying conditions that have died from covid pushing their body to the breaking point.
Either way because of covid they are gone. So yeah I think its deadly.
562K deaths in the US alone makes it deadly. There have been people with and without underlying conditions that have died from covid pushing their body to the breaking point.
Either way because of covid they are gone. So yeah I think its deadly.
I do not belittle the danger of Corona, just like to have the facts straight
And maybe next year we get a stronger Corona virus that will kill ca. 50%
So, better they do as much research as possible, and don't mess with facts
All better keep 2 meter distance + mask + Covid shots to avoid getting it
OF course you are free to believe its deadly. I just can't believe that. But I did do some number crunching to check what Dutch science says.
They say in Holland that the very sick and the very old ones are at risk. The ones with impaired immune system. Hence people who are almost in their grave, the 90+ year old ones, will have the highest risk. 2.6% dies. But below 50 years only 0.001% dies (2500 times less). In Holland 93% of all the Corona death is people above 65 year old. So, if you are below 65 then chances are very little you die, unless you have underlying sickness, like me (even while I am only 56).
IF I catch Corona (or Corona catches me) then I am toast. One way ticket into my coffin (unless God performs a miracle)
Below proves, that Corona is far from deadly I would say, at least in Holland: * below age x50 ca. 0.0011% dies (that is x11 per million), that is very little IMO
* below age x60 ca. 0.0034% dies (that is x34 per million), 3 times more
* below age x70 ca. 0.0106% dies (that is 106 per million), 10 times more, still not much
* below age x80 ca. 0.0338% dies (that is 338 per million), BUT above 80 is high = 1.3#
* below age x90 ca. 0.0747% dies (that is 747 per million), BUT above 90 is high = 2.6%
* below age 200 ca. 0.0934% dies (that is 934 per million),
In Holland ca. 160.000 people out of a population of 7.333.000 people die per year. That is 2.2%. Corona is 0.093% (that is ca. 4% of total death)
Note: Normally we have ca. 7000 flu death, but this year we have 0 flu death. I think they added them to Corona
(makes most sense to me, because the flu virus is not scared away by corona all of a sudden IMO) @stvdvRF
Graph below give facts in Holland (I use this to calculate below the percentages compared to age group)
Assuming these facts are correct, then its clearly a fact that Corona is not a deadly virus
Why there are seemingly so few dying above 90 years of age compared to 80-90? ... because there are only a few above 90
Why there are so many dying from 80-90? ... obviously because they are older than the Dutch average (ca. 80 years)
Some other obvious facts easy to determine from below graph:
00,132,248 people in Holland (above 90 years of age) 17,201,574 people in Holland (below 90 years of age)
00,824,044 people in Holland (above 80 years of age) 16,509,778 people in Holland (below 80 years of age)
02,588,822 people in Holland (above 70 years of age) 14,936,685 people in Holland (below 70 years of age)
04,509,871 people in Holland (above 60 years of age) 12,823,951 people in Holland (below 60 years of age)
07,036,237 people in Holland (above 50 years of age) 10,297,585 people in Holland (below 50 years of age)
xx.x16,339 people in Holland (died from Corona total number) = 0.0934% (16339/17,333,822) xx.x12,848 people in Holland (died from Corona above age 90) = 2.6397% (03491/00,132,248) xx.xx3,491 people in Holland (died from Corona below age 90) = 0.0747% (12848/17,201,574) xx.x10,759 people in Holland (died from Corona above age 80) = 1.3056% (10759/00,824,044) xx.xx5,580 people in Holland (died from Corona below age 80) = 0.0338% (05580/16,509,778)
xx.x14,757 people in Holland (died from Corona above age 70) = 0.5700% (14757/02,588,822) xx.xx1,582 people in Holland (died from Corona below age 70) = 0.0106% (01582/14,936,685) xx.x15,898 people in Holland (died from Corona above age 60) = 0.3525% (15898/04,509,871) xx.xxx,441 people in Holland (died from Corona below age 60) = 0.0034% (00441/12,823,951) xx.x16,223 people in Holland (died from Corona above age 50) = 0.2306% (16223/07,036,237) xx.xxx,116 people in Holland (died from Corona below age 50) = 0.0011% (00116/10,297,585)
OF course you are free to believe its deadly. I just can't believe that. But I did do some number crunching to check what Dutch science says.
They say in Holland that the very sick and the very old ones are at risk. The ones with impaired immune system. Hence people who are almost in their grave, the 90+ year old ones, will have the highest risk. 2.6% dies. But below 50 years only 0.001% dies (2500 times less). In Holland 93% of all the Corona death is people above 65 year old. So, if you are below 65 then chances are very little you die, unless you have underlying sickness, like me (even while I am only 56).
IF I catch Corona (or Corona catches me) then I am toast. One way ticket into my coffin (unless God performs a miracle)
Below proves, that Corona is far from deadly I would say, at least in Holland: * below age x50 ca. 0.0011% dies (that is x11 per million), that is very little IMO
* below age x60 ca. 0.0034% dies (that is x34 per million), 3 times more
* below age x70 ca. 0.0106% dies (that is 106 per million), 10 times more, still not much
* below age x80 ca. 0.0338% dies (that is 338 per million), BUT above 80 is high = 1.3#
* below age x90 ca. 0.0747% dies (that is 747 per million), BUT above 90 is high = 2.6%
* below age 200 ca. 0.0934% dies (that is 934 per million),
In Holland ca. 160.000 people out of a population of 7.333.000 people die per year. That is 2.2%. Corona is 0.093% (that is ca. 4% of total death)
Note: Normally we have ca. 7000 flu death, but this year we have 0 flu death. I think they added them to Corona
(makes most sense to me, because the flu virus is not scared away by corona all of a sudden IMO) @stvdvRF
Graph below give facts in Holland (I use this to calculate below the percentages compared to age group)
Assuming these facts are correct, then its clearly a fact that Corona is not a deadly virus
Why there are seemingly so few dying above 90 years of age compared to 80-90? ... because there are only a few above 90
Why there are so many dying from 80-90? ... obviously because they are older than the Dutch average (ca. 80 years)
Some other obvious facts easy to determine from below graph:
00,132,248 people in Holland (above 90 years of age) 17,201,574 people in Holland (below 90 years of age)
00,824,044 people in Holland (above 80 years of age) 16,509,778 people in Holland (below 80 years of age)
02,588,822 people in Holland (above 70 years of age) 14,936,685 people in Holland (below 70 years of age)
04,509,871 people in Holland (above 60 years of age) 12,823,951 people in Holland (below 60 years of age)
07,036,237 people in Holland (above 50 years of age) 10,297,585 people in Holland (below 50 years of age)
xx.x16,339 people in Holland (died from Corona total number) = 0.0934% (16339/17,333,822) xx.x12,848 people in Holland (died from Corona above age 90) = 2.6397% (03491/00,132,248) xx.xx3,491 people in Holland (died from Corona below age 90) = 0.0747% (12848/17,201,574) xx.x10,759 people in Holland (died from Corona above age 80) = 1.3056% (10759/00,824,044) xx.xx5,580 people in Holland (died from Corona below age 80) = 0.0338% (05580/16,509,778)
xx.x14,757 people in Holland (died from Corona above age 70) = 0.5700% (14757/02,588,822) xx.xx1,582 people in Holland (died from Corona below age 70) = 0.0106% (01582/14,936,685) xx.x15,898 people in Holland (died from Corona above age 60) = 0.3525% (15898/04,509,871) xx.xxx,441 people in Holland (died from Corona below age 60) = 0.0034% (00441/12,823,951) xx.x16,223 people in Holland (died from Corona above age 50) = 0.2306% (16223/07,036,237) xx.xxx,116 people in Holland (died from Corona below age 50) = 0.0011% (00116/10,297,585)
You're using total population vs number of deaths. Thats not the correct way to do it.
15,959,961 haven't been infected so we don't know what their outcome would be/have been.
Its 1,357,340 cases with 16,791 deaths.
16,791÷1,357,340=0.012 =1.2% of the known people infected died.
You're using total population vs number of deaths. Thats not the correct way to do it.
15,959,961 haven't been infected so we don't know what their outcome would be/have been.
Its 1,357,340 cases with 16,791 deaths.
16,791÷1,357,340=0.012 =1.2% of the known people infected died.
That is the exact same outcome as I gave in my post:
You give: 1,357,340 TotalCases+ 15,959,961 not infected = 17,317,301 TotalPopulation
So: TotalPopulation ÷ TotalCases = 17,317,301 ÷ 1,357,340
So: TotalPopulation = (17,317,301÷1,357,340) * TotalCases = 12.758 * TotalCases
0.0934% * (TotalPopulation) = 0.0934% * (12.758 * TotalCases) = 1.1916% * TotalCases = 1.2% * TotalCases --> 1.2% of the known people infected died
Exactly the same number as you calculated (or googled), how could it be different?
Simpel example:
100.Total, 20.Infected, 10.Dead
Total/Infected=100/20=5 --> Total=5*Infected
10 Dead of 100 Total xxx= 10/100 = 0.1 = 10% of Total = 5*10% of Infected = 50% of Infected
10 Dead of 020 Infected = 10/20 x= 0.5 = 50% of Infected
I consider myself being very fortunate to get the best available vaccine against SARS-CoV2 virus. I suppose if the AstraZeneca Oxford C. O. V. I. D. -19 vaccine were the inly vaccine available to me, I,'d hope my natural immunity from having been infected with SARS-CoV2 would protect me from getting infecting by a variant strain of SARS-CoV2. My grandmother suffered and died from a (Edited) *stroke * I don't want to take any chances of this happening to me.
I've woken up during surgery before, and started having hypomanic episodes from anti-depressant treatment. Medical treatments have not always went well for me. I'd still rather take my chances with any of the vaccines than with covid. The odds shift substantially in your favor.
562K deaths in the US alone makes it deadly. There have been people with and without underlying conditions that have died from covid pushing their body to the breaking point.
Either way because of covid they are gone. So yeah I think its deadly.
It's far deadlier than tobacco. Name a drug, covid has killed more. Pick any drug from a hat at random, covid has killed more. It's deadlier than car crashes. It's deadlier than guns. Accidents. Respiratory diseases. You name, except for cancer and heart disease covid has killed more, and it may overtake cancer when the numbers are all tallied.
I've woken up during surgery before, and started having hypomanic episodes from anti-depressant treatment. Medical treatments have not always went well for me. I'd still rather take my chances with any of the vaccines than with covid. The odds shift substantially in your favor.
It's far deadlier than tobacco. Name a drug, covid has killed more. Pick any drug from a hat at random, covid has killed more. It's deadlier than car crashes. It's deadlier than guns. Accidents. Respiratory diseases. You name, except for cancer and heart disease covid has killed more, and it may overtake cancer when the numbers are all tallied.
Important update... Out of aan abundance of caution, the F.D.A .has called for a pause of having the Johnson and Johnson C. O. V. I. D. -19 vaccine administered, this due to an adverse side effect risk of blood clotting.
The number of reported confirmed cases in the U. S. is not the actual number of people who have actually been infected, there are probably at least twice as many non diagnosed unreported cases as there have been confirmed reported cases. The U. S. has had ca. 32 million confirmed Cases of C. O. V. I. D. -19 , but the actual number of C. O. V. I. D-19 cases is probably at leastt 100 million. 560,000 C. O. V. I. D. Deaths out of ca. 100,000,000 people being infected by SARS -CoV2 means somebody representative of overall population would have a roughly a 99.44 percent chance of surviving being infected by the SARS-CoV2 virus.
The number of reported confirmed cases in the U. S. is not the actual number of people who have actually been infected, there are probably at least twice as many non diagnosed unreported cases as there have been confirmed reported cases. The U. S. has had ca. 32 million confirmed Cases of C. O. V. I. D. -19 , but the actual number of C. O. V. I. D-19 cases is probably at leastt 100 million. 560,000 C. O. V. I. D. Deaths out of ca. 100,000,000 people being infected by SARS -CoV2 means somebody representative of overall population would have a roughly a 99.44 percent chance of surviving being infected by the SARS-CoV2 virus.
In the U. S., studies show the number of people actually having been infected by SARS-CoV2 is nearly trice that of reported confirmed cases of C. O. V. I. D. -19. This means the C. O. V. I. D. -19 infection fatality rate of the overall population here is roughly 0..56 percent. 560,000 deaths /100,000,000 infections.
Assuming that the deaths are correctly reported - which they aren't. Iirc the excess deaths in the US indicate that Covid deaths are about 20% under reported.
