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Ask Me Stuff (Secular, Hindu, Indian, interested in Buddhism) :)

Kirran

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Great, thanks for being up for this! Here's my first: I know you have some familiarity with Confucianism, but do you also have much with Daoism? If so, what do you make of the difference in focus of the two, to what extent are they complementary and which traditions might parallel them in these ways among Indian schools of thought?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
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How is your first-hand experience with religious diversity? I take it that you live somewhere in India?
 

Kirran

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sayak83

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Great, thanks for being up for this! Here's my first: I know you have some familiarity with Confucianism, but do you also have much with Daoism? If so, what do you make of the difference in focus of the two, to what extent are they complementary and which traditions might parallel them in these ways among Indian schools of thought?
Actually no. I don't know much about Daoism. I am hoping to strive to learn more in the near future. :)
Very vague outline (based on what my Confucian friends said), Confucian is more this-worldly dealing with making of a person and his relationships and duties in society while Daoism is more of rejecting the social norms and becoming reconnected with nature and spontaneity.
 

sayak83

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What form(s) of Buddhism are you interested in, and why?
Theravada. I have done mindfulness meditation often and I am reading the Buddhist Nikayas. Also interested in Buddhist philosophy, both types.
 

sayak83

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How is your first-hand experience with religious diversity? I take it that you live somewhere in India?
Did. Now I live in US. Had been part of the multi-faith group in the university while in US as well. So experienced diversity in both places.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Actually no. I don't know much about Daoism. I am hoping to strive to learn more in the near future. :)
Very vague outline (based on what my Confucian friends said), Confucian is more this-worldly dealing with making of a person and his relationships and duties in society while Daoism is more of rejecting the social norms and becoming reconnected with nature and spontaneity.

OK, cool - I know Daoism a fair bit, but not Confucianism!

On home ground: Do you think Neo-Vedanta is a exonymous catch-all for universalist normative (monistic) Hinduism? Or a genuine distinct school of thought and tradition with differences from Advaita Vedanta in its philosophical conclusions and/or methodology?
 

sayak83

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OK, cool - I know Daoism a fair bit, but not Confucianism!

On home ground: Do you think Neo-Vedanta is a exonymous catch-all for universalist normative (monistic) Hinduism? Or a genuine distinct school of thought and tradition with differences from Advaita Vedanta in its philosophical conclusions and/or methodology?
I think today it is becoming the former though when Vivekananda (or Aurobindo) and others started it was the former. It was an attempt to reinvigorate Indian thought and culture by gaining inspiration from the ancient thought, just as the reintroduction of Greek thought did in the West. Currently most Indian religious groups are doing their own thing and the long long tradition of comparative philosophy, hermeneutics and theology by talking, discussing and debating each other...which was considered a critical part of the Indian religion...has been lost. The modern movements have become too dependent on personal charisma of their founders and leaders. I do not think that is good thing in the long run.
 

Kirran

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I think today it is becoming the former though when Vivekananda (or Aurobindo) and others started it was the former. It was an attempt to reinvigorate Indian thought and culture by gaining inspiration from the ancient thought, just as the reintroduction of Greek thought did in the West. Currently most Indian religious groups are doing their own thing and the long long tradition of comparative philosophy, hermeneutics and theology by talking, discussing and debating each other...which was considered a critical part of the Indian religion...has been lost. The modern movements have become too dependent on personal charisma of their founders and leaders. I do not think that is good thing in the long run.

Did you mean to say it was the former and became the latter?

And would you agree that central to any of this stuff must be personal experience? I know the Ramakrishna 'sampradaya' is big on that. I am, in a roundabout way, part of it myself.
 

sayak83

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Did you mean to say it was the former and became the latter?
Could you explain what you meant by the two labels. I don't think I understood you correctly.

And would you agree that central to any of this stuff must be personal experience? I know the Ramakrishna 'sampradaya' is big on that. I am, in a roundabout way, part of it myself.
Personal and communal experience has always been very important, its not the only important thing even in Advaita tradition. What is missing is the structure that can create people like Vacaspati Misra who use their spiritual discernment into excellent scholarship
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vācaspati_Miśra
 

Kirran

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OK, I'm back.

Could you explain what you meant by the two labels. I don't think I understood you correctly.

Well you just used the word former twice by accident - I got the message anyway.

Personal and communal experience has always been very important, its not the only important thing even in Advaita tradition. What is missing is the structure that can create people like Vacaspati Misra who use their spiritual discernment into excellent scholarship
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vācaspati_Miśra

Well I can certainly see the appeal, but from your perspective what is the benefit of the production of such scholarship?
 

sayak83

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OK, I'm back.
Well you just used the word former twice by accident - I got the message anyway.
Well I can certainly see the appeal, but from your perspective what is the benefit of the production of such scholarship?

It leads to growth and development of philosophical, religious, spiritual and moral thought and praxis in the different traditions within India. For example, spiritual experience is the foundation of both Vedantic and Buddhist praxis. A sustained discussion on why different methods of meditation leads to different experiences in Buddhism and Yoga coupled with a careful analysis of what are the similarities and dissimilarities of the experiences that are obtained by current practitioners would be very illuminating. Updating the metaphysical arguments of Nyaya-Vaiseshika, Samkhya and Madhyamaka based on the methodologies and discoveries in science and mathematics would also be very illuminating. Evaluating the role of Dharma (or Dhamma) in informing the duties and responsibilities of citizens in a modern nation state will also be illuminating. Finally, doing these things in a joint manner (as was done in Taxila, Nalanda and other universities of classical India) for all the Darsana-s confers the sense that there is indeed a united effort here despite the difference among the schools, and its more than this Guru says this and this other Guru says that.
 

StarryNightshade

Spiritually confused Jew
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You were raised as a Hindu, right?? I remember you mentioning that you lived in Bengal (Calcutta)?

If so, which tradition, if any? Shakta? Gaudiya? Nothing in particular?
 

`mud

Just old
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All I know is: A lot of garbage in the rivers and something growing in my navel !
 
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