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Ask Jesus anything you want

Earthling

David Henson
Actually Jesus is recorded to have healed Peter’s, wife’s mother ( Matthew 8:14). He certainly gave no prohibition on marriage. He celebrated weddings. As far as Jesus goes, he didn’t plan on being in this world very long. And as it turns out he was right since he ended up being executed around 33 years of age

Which, by the way, was the average age of a man of his time to marry, usually a young virgin of 14 or 15 years old.
 

Earthling

David Henson
Axually, if you click on that verse, it says that He saw her laid.

A prophet with a sense of humor? It's always good to check various translations. Matthew 8:14 (NWT) And Jesus, on coming into Peter’s house, saw his mother-in-law lying down and sick with fever.
 

Jedster

Well-Known Member
Actually Jesus is recorded to have healed Peter’s, wife’s mother ( Matthew 8:14). He certainly gave no prohibition on marriage. He celebrated weddings. As far as Jesus goes, he didn’t plan on being in this world very long. And as it turns out he was right since he ended up being executed around 33 years of age

Didn't you mean Mathew 8:15?
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
Actually Jesus is recorded to have healed Peter’s, wife’s mother ( Matthew 8:14). He certainly gave no prohibition on marriage. He celebrated weddings. As far as Jesus goes, he didn’t plan on being in this world very long. And as it turns out he was right since he ended up being executed around 33 years of age

I see you never answered my question, but deflected instead. Typical.

33 was pretty average, during that time and place-- most folk died around that time, which is why many married by 12-13 years of age, had to start the baby-making early, as was Traditional among Jews. (and, really, among most folk in that time and place).
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
What? The scriptures mention at least the wife of Peter and we assume all the 12 disciples were married. But it was not unheard of for a prophet not to marry. Jeremiah did not marry. (Jeremiah 16:2)

Again, deflection, without even an attempt at an answer.
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
Again, deflection, without even an attempt at an answer.
I can tell you the reason but of course you won't believe it or likely even care. Jesus came to earth for His bride. That's the whole reason He came. If you know the scriptures you know that the new Jerusalem(the people of God) is the bride of Christ. This bride of Christ was only obtainable through what Jesus did on the cross.
 

dianaiad

Well-Known Member
Okay, I'll bite: As a Jewish Man, why did Jesus never marry? Marrying, at that time and place was one of the Principle Duties of every Good Jew, and I'd go as far as to say the most important Duty.

To Carry On to the next generation, perpetrate the Family Name, and all of that.

Yet, if the stories are accurate? None of the 12 married! Which seems to be, to be the Height of Heresy. Why?

Well, there are some among us who think He did, y'know.

Marry, that is.

And what stories tell you that 'none of the twelve married?" Because as far as I am aware, most, if not all, of them did.

So I guess I'm challenging you on the basic assumption of your post here.

Now me? I don't know if He did or didn't....leaning towards 'He did.." but we don't really know either way.
 

dianaiad

Well-Known Member
Ask anything you want and I will answer to the best of my ability from the perspective of Jesus Christ himself

With all due respect, Peacemaker, how can you do that? Doing this...answering 'from the perspective of Jesus Christ' would make you a prophet, wouldn't it? I mean, in order to answer from His perspective, you would have to be in very direct communication with Him. I was under the impression that evangelical Christians don't believe in prophets and direct revelation and such? At least, not after His death and resurrection, they don't.

If you are claiming to be able to answer from His perspective by using His words from the bible, you have a problem: Jesus never wrote anything. All we have of Him is what His apostles wrote. So you would be answering questions from the perspective of one evangelical's interpretation of something written by Peter or Paul, who were interpreting what THEY saw and heard, and then wrote down. So what we would be getting from you, then, is quite literally third hand opinion. At best.

I mean, it could be correct and all that, but it's not from Jesus Christ Himself.
 

lostwanderingsoul

Well-Known Member
Think about it, though. If you are christian, you have a relationship with jesus. If you can speak what jesus says to you from your heart in your interpretation of the bible, and you believe it is correct, what is the difference between someone else who says the same thing but publicly?
In your original post you say to ask Jesus anything. You seem to be putting yourself up as Jesus. If you say ask your interpretation of anything that is a different matter. But you are not saying this is your interpretation, you are acting like you are Jesus. Totally wrong thing to do.
Sorry, this answer was meant for Peacemaker.
 
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lostwanderingsoul

Well-Known Member
People always overthink this stuff. Everything I did when I was on the earth was oriented around a very clear goal, to usher in the kingdom of my father (John 6:38) As I taught my disciples to pray: ‘let your will be done on earth as it is in heaven’. In heaven people aren’t sick. That’s why I heal people (Matthew 4:23) In heaven people aren’t tormented, so cast out demons. In heaven people aren’t hungry, that’s why I feed them (Matthew 14:13) In heaven there is justice, that’s why I spend so much time with outcast (Matthew 9:9). I implore people to believe the signs that accompany me even if they doubt my claims (John 10:38)
See post #32. You are trying to answer for Jesus but that is not a good thing to do.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
In your original post you say to ask Jesus anything. You seem to be putting yourself up as Jesus. If you say ask your interpretation of anything that is a different matter. But you are not saying this is your interpretation, you are acting like you are Jesus. Totally wrong thing to do.
Sorry, this answer was meant for Peacemaker.

I cant find my original post. Im not the OP.

My question is, if a christian believes jesus speaks to them and they are correct in their own personal view, what is the difference between they believing they are right and someone else saying the same thing just publically?

Is it wrong because it doesnt line up with how a christian personally relates to christ?

What makes the personal exclamation about ones conversation with jesus different than the same expression just said to others?

I dont get the connection of speaking as if Im jesus. I asked questions rather than statements. Are you referring to me or the OP?
 

Axe Elf

Prophet
With all due respect, Peacemaker, how can you do that? Doing this...answering 'from the perspective of Jesus Christ' would make you a prophet, wouldn't it? I mean, in order to answer from His perspective, you would have to be in very direct communication with Him. I was under the impression that evangelical Christians don't believe in prophets and direct revelation and such? At least, not after His death and resurrection, they don't.

Axually, the New Testament speaks of the spiritual gift of prophecy in at least 3 places (just off the top of my head); 1 Corinthians 12:10, 1 Corinthians 14:4, and Ephesians 4:11. If you'll notice there under my name, I am a member of that fraternity myself. However, the spiritual gift of prophecy is the gift of understanding and interpreting the divine will, not speaking for Jesus or God as if the words were coming from His mouth directly. So your objection is materially correct, but foundationally flawed.
 

lostwanderingsoul

Well-Known Member
I cant find my original post. Im not the OP.

My question is, if a christian believes jesus speaks to them and they are correct in their own personal view, what is the difference between they believing they are right and someone else saying the same thing just publically?

Is it wrong because it doesnt line up with how a christian personally relates to christ?

What makes the personal exclamation about ones conversation with jesus different than the same expression just said to others?

I dont get the connection of speaking as if Im jesus. I asked questions rather than statements. Are you referring to me or the OP?
In my last line I realized that my reply was meant for Peacemaker. He said to ask Jesus anything and then gave his interpretation of what Jesus might answer. It would have made more sense for him to say we could ask his interpretation of anything. His answers make him sound like he is speaking as Jesus and this is not a good thing to do.
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
I can tell you the reason but of course you won't believe it or likely even care. Jesus came to earth for His bride. That's the whole reason He came. If you know the scriptures you know that the new Jerusalem(the people of God) is the bride of Christ. This bride of Christ was only obtainable through what Jesus did on the cross.

Cute. Irrelevant to my question, of course. And your version? Is really creepy.

It also paints your god to be even more creepy: All that torture-porn, and what-not.

Jesus had to be tortured because your creepy god couldn't figure out a less evil way, then?
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
Well, there are some among us who think He did, y'know.

Marry, that is.

And what stories tell you that 'none of the twelve married?" Because as far as I am aware, most, if not all, of them did.

So I guess I'm challenging you on the basic assumption of your post here.

Now me? I don't know if He did or didn't....leaning towards 'He did.." but we don't really know either way.

The way the apostles died, leads one to think none were actually married, but that's just my take on the Myth.

As for Jesus marrying? If he existed as a human (highly doubtful), it's far more likely he married, than not. It's also quite likely he had many children too.

Being married, and a family man could possibly explain where Jesus spent time for all those years from 12 to 30.... could be his wife died of childbirth (very common), and that might be how he was set free of his family obligations.
 
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