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flowerpower

Member
I've grown weary, frustrated and disillusioned with literally every aspect of the material world.

How do you fix that?
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
I've grown weary, frustrated and disillusioned with literally every aspect of the material world.

How do you fix that?
Get out and meet more people, preferably doing something creative. I find choral singing useful for that, for example. Or do some reading and join a book club. Or, if you are young enough and that is you in the picture, find a new man. They will be queuing up. :cool:
 

Nyingjé Tso

Dharma not drama
I like real-time chats for smaller groups or one-on-one conversations, but for a whole server? A big nope.
Yeeeh same ! Small groups are fine, even tho like you say it always ends up in dramas and it's a bit tiring in the end.

Have you been to Thich Nhat Hanh's Plum Village? And what do you think of him in general?
Haven't been there but certainly heard about him, he's a big figure ! Buddhists from every lineage and vehicule were sad to see him go. My sangha even did bardo prayers for him. He's a great teacher and I hope the legacy he left behind him will continue to thrive for the benefit of people.

Some people seem to want to pigeonhole others so that they can make them "acceptable" politically instead of living with the fact that different people will always have different views. I think labels don't matter much (if at all) as long as one knows where they stand and what their values are, as you clearly do!
Exactly !
I'm not endorsing some guy and being against another. I have no interest in slapping labels and go to some kind of keyboard war against people who chose another label like a pretend warrior at recess.
I want people to sit down and discuss actual, concrete ideas.
But they can't even sit down at the same table anymore, how can we even get anywhere like this.

What kind of extreme-left view?
I'll be honest and say I have no idea. The only and last time I went to a politized talk/seminary that was advertised as extreme left / anarcho leftist but not affiliated to any party in power, I was wildly uncomfortable because it was basically two hours of people saying that we should shape the world as some kind of class system where women are above men (litterally, men would be forbidden to have anything else than menial work and denied any position of power), women should have power position depending on their sexuality (with lesbians being superior to hetero women) and trans-women should top the pyramid. They were completely serious.
I noped the heck out and got called a transphobe.
Irony is, my husband is trans, so I am involved in this and have good first hand experience of trans issues too. I had nothing against any of it, just against the very idea of replacing a strong class disparity society with another strong class disparity society. I dared mention letting go of the idea of "making men pay for what they did" (???) and actually work toward real equality in society. With equal chances and equal treatment.
Anyway. It was ridiculous and I thought those kind of people only existed in the caricatures conservatives made up.


I recall that you were a gamer. Are you still one? If so, which games do you play?
I am ahaha ! I play a bit of everything. Lately I've been chilling of Guild Wars 2 or Minecraft a bit, but getting into Cult of the Lamb too, having a blast with it so far !

Got frustrated with Lies of P (I mean, it's a souls-like so it's supposed to be frustrating xD) but also a bit disappointed in it. It's beautiful and engaging, but they could have made more efforts into not overtly plagiarizing some aspects of fromSoft games. No talking about gameplay at all (fromSoft doesn't own the souls-like genre, we all agree on that). But more about UI elements or details (lit up windows in the city where you see pnj's shadows you can talk to and give you small quests through the windows ? Bloodborne anyone ?) that are 100% identical to existing fromSoft games and it's sad. I was expecting a Korean studio to be more creative and add new things and their own touch to the genre.

Got into streaming too for a while, had a really decent success but had to pause for IRL reasons. I should definitely pick that up again, it was really funny and wholesome !

What are your bank account & routing numbers?
You can PM me the info for security reasons.
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I've grown weary, frustrated and disillusioned with literally every aspect of the material world.

How do you fix that?
The world both have the most beautiful things you'll ever see and the most horrible things you'll ever see at the same time.
Walk the path where you get to see the beautiful things, take time to appreciate them and move on, never loosing that traveler's mindset.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Haven't been there but certainly heard about him, he's a big figure ! Buddhists from every lineage and vehicule were sad to see him go. My sangha even did bardo prayers for him. He's a great teacher and I hope the legacy he left behind him will continue to thrive for the benefit of people.

I'm not surprised by his popularity! I'm sure his legacy will live on. I have found his works that I have read so far immensely peaceful and insightful.

Exactly !
I'm not endorsing some guy and being against another. I have no interest in slapping labels and go to some kind of keyboard war against people who chose another label like a pretend warrior at recess.
I want people to sit down and discuss actual, concrete ideas.
But they can't even sit down at the same table anymore, how can we even get anywhere like this.

Continual, intense polarization is quite exhausting, for sure. It has happened in my region too, and I have seen it bring the absolute worst out of some people. It's repulsive to watch.

I'll be honest and say I have no idea. The only and last time I went to a politized talk/seminary that was advertised as extreme left / anarcho leftist but not affiliated to any party in power, I was wildly uncomfortable because it was basically two hours of people saying that we should shape the world as some kind of class system where women are above men (litterally, men would be forbidden to have anything else than menial work and denied any position of power), women should have power position depending on their sexuality (with lesbians being superior to hetero women) and trans-women should top the pyramid. They were completely serious.
I noped the heck out and got called a transphobe.
Irony is, my husband is trans, so I am involved in this and have good first hand experience of trans issues too. I had nothing against any of it, just against the very idea of replacing a strong class disparity society with another strong class disparity society. I dared mention letting go of the idea of "making men pay for what they did" (???) and actually work toward real equality in society. With equal chances and equal treatment.
Anyway. It was ridiculous and I thought those kind of people only existed in the caricatures conservatives made up.

That does sound like the sort of fringe worldview one might expect in caricatures and sheltered online communities. What insanity.

I have met and talked to a lot of people many might call "extreme left" and "extreme right," and I have never encountered the above ideas. I have still seen some deeply toxic and inhumane stuff, though, like support for Stalinism, support for "scientific racism" and eugenics, etc. It seems to me that people's most extreme thinking tends to come out when they isolate themselves to echo chambers for too long and don't allow themselves to have their ideas challenged by others.

I am ahaha ! I play a bit of everything. Lately I've been chilling of Guild Wars 2 or Minecraft a bit, but getting into Cult of the Lamb too, having a blast with it so far !

Got frustrated with Lies of P (I mean, it's a souls-like so it's supposed to be frustrating xD) but also a bit disappointed in it. It's beautiful and engaging, but they could have made more efforts into not overtly plagiarizing some aspects of fromSoft games. No talking about gameplay at all (fromSoft doesn't own the souls-like genre, we all agree on that). But more about UI elements or details (lit up windows in the city where you see pnj's shadows you can talk to and give you small quests through the windows ? Bloodborne anyone ?) that are 100% identical to existing fromSoft games and it's sad. I was expecting a Korean studio to be more creative and add new things and their own touch to the genre.

Got into streaming too for a while, had a really decent success but had to pause for IRL reasons. I should definitely pick that up again, it was really funny and wholesome !

I would definitely check out your stream if you decided to share it! I used to watch a lot of Twitch back in 2014-2019, and the variety of personalities was often quite amusing and interesting. :D
 

Nyingjé Tso

Dharma not drama
That does sound like the sort of fringe worldview one might expect in caricatures and sheltered online communities. What insanity.

I have met and talked to a lot of people many might call "extreme left" and "extreme right," and I have never encountered the above ideas. I have still seen some deeply toxic and inhumane stuff, though, like support for Stalinism, support for "scientific racism" and eugenics, etc. It seems to me that people's most extreme thinking tends to come out when they isolate themselves to echo chambers for too long and don't allow themselves to have their ideas challenged by others.
Yaaaah x_x I know they most probably are just a single fringe group and nothing else much but it definitely left a bad taste in my mouth. And reinforced my view that whatever political box I try to fit into, I'll never be "this" or "that" enough for them. They are so focused on strict adherence of checkboxes to fit into their box that there's just no space enough for actual ideas. And if you bring an idea, then it must also be in strict adherence to the criterias of the label or else you are some kind of ennemy because your idea looks too much like what the neighbor with a different label says. It's bordering insanity.

Met and talked to people of both extremes also online, and tbh the more I do, the more I see the political spectrum as some kind of donut. Both extremes end up meeting in the end, because of sharing such ideas while pretending it's different.

I would definitely check out your stream if you decided to share it! I used to watch a lot of Twitch back in 2014-2019, and the variety of personalities was often quite amusing and interesting. :D
Bwahaha if you want : TashiVT - Twitch but it's pretty barren for now, it's been a long while.
I'm pretty laid back and chill, it's all more about positivity and having fun. Not here for the numbers or competition. If I suck at a game, we just all have a good laugh and that's it.
Had to stop tho, between dad getting cancer, us being scammed, new work, tons of paperwork, car accident... It was way too eventful to keep a regular schedule on that channel.

Those past months I've been mostly playing with other streamers without streaming myself ahah !
I somehow convinced them to do run a Baldur's Gate 3 completely naked. Yes I am a pure agent of chaos. So it's canon now, we're a group of adventurers on their way to save the world... Except everyone is naked, the Drow is a psychopath, the Elf a kleptomaniac, and the bard is bonked every time he plays music.

It's hilarious but it's a 3D sausage festival so I won't share the clips here xDD but I'll do when they post the "best moments" videos with the censoring ahahah
 

flowerpower

Member
Zed's dead, baby

Yolanda, be cool.

Crazy to think that film is going to be 30 years old this year. What a masterpiece.

As far as this thread is about asking people stuff -

Pulp Fiction (1994): more style than substance or the reverse?

I say the style added to the substance; thus, substance.
 
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flowerpower

Member
Get out and meet more people, preferably doing something creative. I find choral singing useful for that, for example. Or do some reading and join a book club. Or, if you are young enough and that is you in the picture, find a new man. They will be queuing up. :cool:

Yeeeh same ! Small groups are fine, even tho like you say it always ends up in dramas and it's a bit tiring in the end.


Haven't been there but certainly heard about him, he's a big figure ! Buddhists from every lineage and vehicule were sad to see him go. My sangha even did bardo prayers for him. He's a great teacher and I hope the legacy he left behind him will continue to thrive for the benefit of people.


Exactly !
I'm not endorsing some guy and being against another. I have no interest in slapping labels and go to some kind of keyboard war against people who chose another label like a pretend warrior at recess.
I want people to sit down and discuss actual, concrete ideas.
But they can't even sit down at the same table anymore, how can we even get anywhere like this.


I'll be honest and say I have no idea. The only and last time I went to a politized talk/seminary that was advertised as extreme left / anarcho leftist but not affiliated to any party in power, I was wildly uncomfortable because it was basically two hours of people saying that we should shape the world as some kind of class system where women are above men (litterally, men would be forbidden to have anything else than menial work and denied any position of power), women should have power position depending on their sexuality (with lesbians being superior to hetero women) and trans-women should top the pyramid. They were completely serious.
I noped the heck out and got called a transphobe.
Irony is, my husband is trans, so I am involved in this and have good first hand experience of trans issues too. I had nothing against any of it, just against the very idea of replacing a strong class disparity society with another strong class disparity society. I dared mention letting go of the idea of "making men pay for what they did" (???) and actually work toward real equality in society. With equal chances and equal treatment.
Anyway. It was ridiculous and I thought those kind of people only existed in the caricatures conservatives made up.



I am ahaha ! I play a bit of everything. Lately I've been chilling of Guild Wars 2 or Minecraft a bit, but getting into Cult of the Lamb too, having a blast with it so far !

Got frustrated with Lies of P (I mean, it's a souls-like so it's supposed to be frustrating xD) but also a bit disappointed in it. It's beautiful and engaging, but they could have made more efforts into not overtly plagiarizing some aspects of fromSoft games. No talking about gameplay at all (fromSoft doesn't own the souls-like genre, we all agree on that). But more about UI elements or details (lit up windows in the city where you see pnj's shadows you can talk to and give you small quests through the windows ? Bloodborne anyone ?) that are 100% identical to existing fromSoft games and it's sad. I was expecting a Korean studio to be more creative and add new things and their own touch to the genre.

Got into streaming too for a while, had a really decent success but had to pause for IRL reasons. I should definitely pick that up again, it was really funny and wholesome !


Sorry ----- What did you sa---------- ? ------------------- I think I'm entering a tunn-----
---
can'-----------------hear yo--------------------------------


The world both have the most beautiful things you'll ever see and the most horrible things you'll ever see at the same time.
Walk the path where you get to see the beautiful things, take time to appreciate them and move on, never loosing that traveler's mindset.

Kind of a tongue in cheek question that I asked but I actually really love the answers.

I can tell today will be a good day.

:heart:
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
Kind of a tongue in cheek question that I asked but I actually really love the answers.

I can tell today will be a good day.

:heart:
To be honest I wasn't sure whether you were just feeling jaded or if it was a real metaphysical crisis. I'm happy to learn it was more the former than the latter, which was the basis on which I responded.

By the way, re some of your other posts, I can relate to lapsed Catholicism. That's what I have been much of my life, though my late wife and I started attending again when our son was small, as we thought it had something to offer him culturally and in terms of identity. Now he in his turn has lapsed, which is more or less what we expected, while I have become a regular attender at Sunday mass! There is a longer - and fairly boring - story behind all that, as I expect there is with most people.

Good luck with managing the BPD. I have an old rowing club friend who suffers with that. For decades I never knew, but now I know it makes sense of one or two odd things. As with my own father's episodes of depression, I wish I had known sooner. People don't talk enough about these things.
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
Yolanda, be cool.

Crazy to think that film is going to be 30 years old this year. What a masterpiece.

As far as this thread is about asking people stuff -

Pulp Fiction (1994): more style than substance or the reverse?

I say the style added to the substance; thus, substance.

Tarantino is the most stylish of all movie makers, and this film remains one of his best imo, so there’s certainly plenty of style. It’s a also a movie that really forces you think; unraveling the non-linear narrative requires effort, and people are still arguing about what was in that briefcase…so no shortage of substance either imo.
 

flowerpower

Member
Tarantino is the most stylish of all movie makers, and this film remains one of his best imo, so there’s certainly plenty of style. It’s a also a movie that really forces you think; unraveling the non-linear narrative requires effort, and people are still arguing about what was in that briefcase…so no shortage of substance either imo.

Oh yes - the coveted gold shimmering briefcase with the "666" lock.

Kind of like a lot of art that inspires disagreement over the content, it's probably best that it's never revealed.

As boring as my conclusion is:
I think it's simply employed as a plot device to keep the thing rolling and was never meant to contain anything meaningful in particular. The most meaningful narrative being that Jules & Vince's companionship was based on ongoing philosophical discussions and their brush with death sent them in two completely different directions (Jules finding god and wanting out of an immoral life while Vince's skepticism ultimately got him killed at the end of the narrative).

As brilliant as the writing and directing was, the casting and acting was probably just as brilliant. Some of those crescendos in dialogue and climaxes / anti-climaxes were wild - the movie in its entirety was like a musical symphony as far as style went.
 
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