muslimbrother
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Thanks for noticing me lol, I found a friendAlanGurvey said:God job on ignoring muslimbrother
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Thanks for noticing me lol, I found a friendAlanGurvey said:God job on ignoring muslimbrother
Only one person is anwering the questions on this thread.AlanGurvey said:No one has answered his question :bounce
angellous_evangellous said:Only one person is anwering the questions on this thread.
So, as my wife says to me daily,
"SPEAK, O ENLIGHTENED ONE."
Because she was a virgin!darkwaldo said:How do you know Mary wasn't cheating on Joseph?
If a woman today said she was a virgin while being pregnent or, that the child came from god, she would either have to be artificially incementated or lying.
It's a virtue that I don't have! :help:GoldenDragon said:patience is a virtue....
This is a debate thread, Mark. This response is entirely inappropriate. It's not fair to simply assert something. I'm sure that our friend knew that the Gospel tradition says that Mary was a virgin.Mark1615 said:Because she was a virgin!
The Old Testament (OT) wasn't changed...in any degree. What the New Testament (NT) did, namely through Jesus, was expound on and fulfill the Old Testament prophecies. The God of the New Testament is the same as the God of the Old Testament. The Bible says that He never changes. He is just as merciful in the OT as He is in the NT. Read Nehemiah 9 for a summary of how God mercifully forgave Israel, again and again, after they repeatedly sinned and turned their back on Him. The Psalms of David often speak of God's mercy, poured out on sinners.muslimbrother said:I do not know much about other religions (outside my own), so I am here to just learn from you guys.
Questions: What is the difference between the New and Old Testament, and why did the Old Testament have to be changed.
(This question has probably been asked a million times but I still struggle understanding it)
E. Earle Ellis, Paul's Use of the Old Testament, published PhD dissertation from Edinburg, is an outstanding masterpiece on this topic. It revolutionized my understanding of the HB and NT relationships. It is a fairly short book, and a wonderful read. His many other books are excellent as well.Mark1615 said:The Old Testament (OT) wasn't changed...in any degree. What the New Testament (NT) did, namely through Jesus, was expound on and fulfill the Old Testament prophecies. The God of the New Testament is the same as the God of the Old Testament. The Bible says that He never changes. He is just as merciful in the OT as He is in the NT. Read Nehemiah 9 for a summary of how God mercifully forgave Israel, again and again, after they repeatedly sinned and turned their back on Him. The Psalms of David often speak of God's mercy, poured out on sinners.
He is also just as wrath-filled in the NT as He is in the Old. He killed a husband and wife in the Book of Acts, simply because they told one lie. Jesus warned that He was to be feared because He has the power to cast the body and soul into hell. The apostle Paul said that he persuaded men to come to the Savior because he knew the "terror of the Lord." Read the dreadful judgments of the NT's Book of Revelation. That will put the "fear of God" in you, which incidentally is "the beginning of wisdom."
Perhaps the most fearful display of His wrath is seen in the cross of Jesus Christ. His fury so came upon the Messiah that it seems God enshrouded the face of Jesus in darkness so that creation couldn't gaze upon His unpeakable agony. Whether we like it or not, our God is a cosuming fire of holiness (Hebrews 12:29). He isn't going to change, sowe had better...before the Day of Judgment. If we repent, God, in His mercy, will forgive us and grant us eternal life in heaven with Him.
I hope I answered your question.
Three points:Mark1615 said:Angellous,
I already addressed the question about the virgin birth in a previous post...
Besides, even if she did have an affair, it doesn't mean Jesus was born through human will.
God bless you, too.time_spender said:hi ,God Bless
I already addressed this question, but I'll expound on my previous answer. John 8:58 says "Jesus said to them, 'Verily, verily, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.'" A study of the Pentateuch (first five books of the Bible) will reveal the words of God when He said to Moses "I am who I am. Tell them (Egyptians) that I AM has sent you." Jesus was quoting God when He said that He was I am. Jesus would be guilty of blasphemy and breaking the Third Commandment (don't use God's name in vain). He would have broken the Law that He was teaching. Jesus was affirming that He was God manifest in the flesh. He is the Great "I AM" - the Eternal One who revealed Himself to Moses in the burning bush (Exodus 3:14).muslimbrother said:Jesus never said "I am God, Worship Me." But yet he is considered God and is begin worshipped?
If anyone can answer those questions it will help me with my homework, lol
Thanks and Peace to all of you.
Now this is cheesy . If you're a preacher, pleeeaaaassseee don't say this from the pulpit. I'll never look at cheese the same way again.Mark1615 said:If I give you a small slice of cheese from a large block (the taste being constant throughout the whole block), and you spit out the cheese saying you hate the taste, then you reject the whole block.
You are right, and for that I apologize. My answer to this is found on page 5, last post, second paragraph (sorry, I don't know how to do links).angellous_evangellous said:Three points:
1) You still answered a direct question with a mere assertion, which is not appropriate in a debate
2) The thread is 12 pages long. A link would be great to the previous post. I searched for a couple of pages and didn't see anything that answered the question.
3) Why did you write this? "Besides, even if she did have an affair, it doesn't mean Jesus was born through human will." It looks like you're contradicting yourself. Either she was a virgin or she wasn't. The issue of human will is not being addressed, but Mary's virignity.
Thanks very much for the post reference.Mark1615 said:You are right, and for that I apologize. My answer to this is found on page 5, last post, second paragraph (sorry, I don't know how to do links).
I don't know what else to say on that subject, other than to bring in the faith issue. I don't expect anyone to believe me, even if I did have proof. But I have experiencial proof that God exists and what He says is true. Sorry.