WitnessofJah
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I will not answer this question for you.mrscarrdero said:Do the Jehova Witnesses believe they have the one true religion?
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I will not answer this question for you.mrscarrdero said:Do the Jehova Witnesses believe they have the one true religion?
I didn`t think you did I just wanted to be perfectly clear.WitnessofJah said:No I am not saying this at all. If you read my prior response carefully, I was actually talking about the the ancient Greek texts.
I never said you "enforced" it, however saying it is merely "advice" is dishonest at best.Read my response to "Robtex". We do no "enforce" anything and only "advise".
Witness what is your opinion of the Silent Lambs and their efforts?
Where does the Bible say that the Mosiac Law is obsolete?You have not been reading what I have been writing. The Bible itself say's that the Mosaic laws are no longer applicable - and that's why we don't follow them anymore. There is no other part of the Bible that does this - but only for the Mosaic law. By not following the Mosaic law, we are are following the Bible even more closely than most people, not disobeying it
Don`t they all?Do the Jehova Witnesses believe they have the one true religion?
No, most of us are not vegetarians. However, as long as the food is properly cooked and an effort has been made to avoid the consumption of blood, our consciences are clear. After blood has been cooked, the blood (and what it represents) has been destroyed and therefore, is edible. As for minute traces of blood found in certain foods (milk, eggs), that is for an individual to decide - which come down to his/her conscience. It would be impossible to put everything we eat under a microscope beforehand, as this is neither realistic or ideal. However, as long as God see's the effort of avoiding blood in the first place, no sin is being commited.Druidus said:
Alright, but what about the other stuff? Are you vegetarians? Do you drink milk or eat eggs? If so, you have undoubtably eaten/drinken blood.
Many books may have "prophecies", but how many are actually realistically relevant to our personal lives and our future? A prediction of planes and guns does not automatically mean that a book is inspired of God - a prophecy is only one criteria - there are many others.What about the other holy texts? They predict as much, or more then the bible. And at least one predicted planes and guns. Are these not valid too?
This may be true, however, Nostradamus also told many prophecies that never did happen. The distiction between him and Bible prophets is that the prophecies of the Bible prophets ALL came true, and actually had a significant meaning. If I predicted my own death (like Nostradamus did), does that make me a prophet of God?However, some are very specific, such as the one where he predicts that Napolean will be exiled to the island of Elba, even going so far as to use Napoleans symbol and the name of the island.
What I mean is, why did he show such disdain for non-Israelites? Why did he favour one people over another? Especially if he is an all-loving God.
Because they were the only people on earth who were following his laws. The rest of the world at that time were worshipping false gods and believed in pagan doctrines. And when the Israelites disobeyed God, he punished them. If you read the book of 'Judges' in the Bible, you can read about the times when the Israelites disobeyed God on many occasions, and he punished them each and every time by letting them get conquered (temporarily) by rival nations until they repented. His love for his people was by no means unconditional.By the way, are you allowed to play such games as "Dungeons and Dragons"?
The all came true? Really? How do you know that? Because it's written in the bible? Oh. Ok. That explains it then. Since the prophecies of Nostradamus are usually vague, we cannot reasonably say they HAVEN'T come true. They may, indeed, come true later.The distiction between him and Bible prophets is that the prophecies of the Bible prophets ALL came true, and actually had a significant meaning. If I predicted my own death (like Nostradamus did), does that make me a prophet of God?
What, praytell, are these criteria. List them in point form please.a prophecy is only one criteria - there are many others.
Where did you get this idea from? What is your definition of "banned then shunned"? As a matter of fact, it would be wrong on our part to expel anybody who married outside of the faith, since there is no set law, only advise. I think you are confusing this with our protocol to expel people who bring reproach on God's name by commiting serious sins (i.e. fornication, adultery). And even then, once the individual has repented, they are allowed to return back into the congregation.linwood said:I never said you "enforced" it, however saying it is merely "advice" is dishonest at best.
People are excommunicated from the sect and banned then shunned.
I would call that a form of "enforcement".
No, I did'nt miss it. I anwered it on page 7, near the bottom.I think you missed this question below.
The Bible said that the Mosaic law was obsolete in quite a few passages in the Bible (both in the OT and NT). I feel it is best described in Hebrew 8:6-13, and when reading this, keep in mind that the terms "First/old covenant" refers to the Mosaic law, and "New covenant" refers to the laws of Christ. Hebrews 8:6-13:Where does the Bible say that the Mosiac Law is obsolete?
I find this in Matthew.
Matthew 5:17-
Do not think I came to destroy the law or the Prophets.I came not to destroy but to fulfill;
For truly I say to you that sooner would heaven and earth pass away than for one smallest letter or particle of a letter to pass away from the Law by any means and not all things take place
Whoever therefore breaks one of these least commandments and teaches mankind to that effect, he will be called the "least" in relation to the kingdom of the heavens.
You're right, God's destructive power today is not as apparent as it was with the Israelites. However, God will destroy the people who deny him when the time is right (Rev 16:16). God is not a liar, and what he foretells will come true. God, in Malachi 4:1, says: "For, look! the day is coming that is burning like the furnace, and all the presumptuous ones and all those doing wickedness must become as stubble. And the day that is coming will certainly devour them," Jehovah of armies has said, "so that it will not leave to them either root or bough."Druidus said:How come God does not strike down the numerous pagans we have today? The whole CITIES that do not worship him?
Like I said before, what Blood represents - life, is destroyed after cooking. Destroyed blood is exactly that, dead blood. Once cooked, the sacredness of the blood no longer exists, and therefore, is no longer holy to God.Blood is not destroyed in meat. The water in the blood leaves, but the hemoglobin, the heart of the blood, soaks into the flesh, and that is where you get the taste from.
The Bible's prophecies are not true because it say's so - but because they were actually fulfilled. For example, the Bible foretold that Jesus Christ would arrive on Earth - 2000 years before the actual event took place. Coincidence? A guess? No, only divine inspiration.The all came true? Really? How do you know that? Because it's written in the bible? Oh. Ok. That explains it then. Since the prophecies of Nostradamus are usually vague, we cannot reasonably say they HAVEN'T come true. They may, indeed, come true later.
A criteria for a book which shows that it is inspired of God are:What, praytell, are these criteria. List them in point form please.
By the way, again, can you play games like "Dungeons and Dragons"?
You're right, it was a call made by a few over-zealous members. The entire organization never accepted these "predictions" and never have. There is no biblical date to when the end will come. The only person who knows the date for the end of this system of things is God himself. As far as the current generation of JW's goes, even though we do not know the date, we know it cannot be long. Bible prophecy is being fulfilled as we speak (see one of my previous posts), and this world, both environmentally and society-wise, is going down very fast. It may come in our lifetime, it may not, but we have full faith that it will come.carrdero said:Someone had explained to me that there were several occasions (specifically 1914, 1925, 1975) where the Jehovahs Witnesses predicted the end of this system of things or that Gods judgment was to reign down upon the planet.
Was this prophecy actually accepted by the whole organization or was this the decision of a few over-zealous members? Do the Jehovah Witnesses still believe that it will BE in this generation when Judgment Day arrives? If it doesnt arrive in this generation how does this bode for the future of the organization?
I have answered you each and every time, not from my opinion, but from the Bible. You have been negative and looked for flaws from the word go, but have been able to find none. You have asked the same question 3 times, and I have answered it 3 times, with each answer getting more simple each time. I have even shown you references and scriptures from the Bible, so it's not me you are rejecting, but the Bible itself.Ronald said:WitnessofJah, You Silver Tongued Wit_ess, I give up on getting an answer from you.
You also are in Replacement Theology, which is close, but Close only counts in Horseshoes.
That which is Perfect, Holy, Just and Good is as valid today as it was at creation!
My dad, said "Figures don't lie, But Liars can figure." This also goes for those who run fast and loose with the Bible.
Since you have only the JW Watchtower Babble, I wont keep asking you anything, as I said before I am able to read English.
Baruch Hashem and Shalom U'Vrachot
Then if the person you take blood from is dead, does it matter?Like I said before, what Blood represents - life, is destroyed after cooking. Destroyed blood is exactly that, dead blood. Once cooked, the sacredness of the blood no longer exists, and therefore, is no longer holy to God.
NT was written after Yeshua, so it must have been OT. OT was written by the Jewish, correct? The Jewish do not accept the man you speak of as the Son of God. Since it was a Jewish prophecy, and the Jewish have not accepted it, I would not count that as true. Has the bible predicted anything verifiable today, and not just confirmable from within it's own bindings? We don't even had real proof that Jesus existed, just the second hand accounts of the bible.For example, the Bible foretold that Jesus Christ would arrive on Earth - 2000 years before the actual event took place.
[*]True prophecies
[*]Historic soundness (times, dates, years)
[*]Geographic accuracy (places)
[*]Candor (honest - tells the good, bad, and the ugly)
[*]Internal harmony (no contradictions)
[*]Practical (achieveable and good advice for everyday lives)
[*]Claim (who wrote it and who they give credit to
[*]Preservation (that the word has been preserved over history)
[*]Archaelogical (evidence)
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I have played the game numerous times, and have much experience in it. I too am a dungeon master. There are no games where murder, arson, torture, rape or highway robbery occur. The people playing are championeering for good, and fight evils in order to save other people (NPCs, or Non-Player-Characters). For instance, in one game, an evil ogre tried to use his army to attack several towns, kill the people and take their belongings. The players job was to save the towns and people. Is that wrong? It is not improper to imagine the ogre and his army as demons. Therefore, they are only killing that which is purely evil. Is their anything wrong with killing evil to save good? Imagine if this were a real scenario. If you were the only person who could save the towns, would you? Or would you allow the ogres to pillage the towns and kill the inhabitants, merely because you dislike violence? If such things as John Holmes listed were common in games, it is only what the evil did, and the Good partook of themselves to destroy.A small description of the game: "The level of violence in this make-believe world runs high. There is hardly a game in which the players do not indulge in murder, arson, torture, rape, or highway robbery," comments veteran Dungeon Master John Eric Holmes in a recent article in Psychology Today.
Witnesses have decided after much critical media over the issue that blood transfusions should be left up to the individual.kreeden said:" Over-zealous members " ? An interesting way to refer to Charles Russel .![]()
I have studied the Bible with the Jehovahs Witnesses , and I have to say this much for you , you do know that Bible . However , when I studied , they wouldn't eat blood ever after it was cooked . Wieners were a big issue , because of the blood in the " by-products ".
You`ve got to be kidding me.The Silent Lambs are what we call "apostates". We have no hatred toward them at all but we frown upon their accusations because they are unfounded. A few of these Silent Lamb "members" were actually former JW'S which have an axe to grind because they were expelled for serious wrongdoing. The Bible even foretold that these people would exist: "For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist."
Don`t tell me this is the result of a "Few Disgruntled Apostates".[font=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]New Hampshire: A WTS member informed elders that her husband was physically abusing their children. They took no action. For years afterwards, the man sexually and physically abused children in his own family. He was finally caught, tried and given a 56 year prison sentence.
[/font][font=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Texas: In 1992, WTS elders ordered a teen-age boy to stop molesting his younger sister. The youth later sexually abused another sister. Police found out about the latter case when alerted by hospital staff after his victim attempted to commit suicide. In 1997, the perpetrator was given a 40-year prison term.
[/font][font=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Maine: WTS elders disciplined a member for child molesting. Later, the perpetrator molested a teen-age boy between 1989 and 1992. It was only after the second victim disclosed the abuse to a therapist that authorities were notified.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/witness7.htm
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This is not a half truth as much of the rest of your posts here have been.[/font]Do you know that these people have never confronted our society with names, facts, and places? The reason why is because none exist. If they did exist, we would be more than happy to cooperate and to expel these people.
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Very kind and trustworthy people as well.Kreeden writes: I have studied the Bible with the Jehovahs Witnesses , and I have to say this much for you , you do know that Bible .
You`re right kreeden it is still a controversy but I think it`s reached a point where you don`t necessarily risk excommunication by choosing a transfusion over death.kreeden said:The blood issue is still very much alive Linwood .
http://www.rickross.com/reference/jw/jw169.html
http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/bethany.htm
But you may be correct in saying that it is more of a personal choice . Very much of the local beliefs appear to be left up to the local Elders , with the Watchtower more or less being a guideline . { I know that I worded that poorly , my brain is about to explode after trying to explain Jung in another thread ... }