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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by KWED, Jan 11, 2022.

  1. KWED

    KWED Scratching head, scratching knee

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    As the last couple of AAI threads seemed to be just intended for preaching dogma with no attempt at actually informing, discussing or responding to questions in good faith, I thought I'd start one where there will be no agenda other than to present what the Quran, sunnah and classical tafsir actually say on an issue. No sectarianism. No opinions (apart from those of authoritative classical scholars). Just the 'facts', ma'am.

    And I promise not to accuse anyone of hate or bashing or ignorance if they don't agree with my replies. And I won't put anyone on ignore if I can't come up with an answer.
     
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  2. SalixIncendium

    SalixIncendium Veteran Member
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    Do you have such a working knowledge of the Quran and Islam to intelligently field any question about Islam...without bias?
     
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    epronovost Well-Known Member

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    So, what's your opinion on the succession of Muhammad?
     
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    Nakosis Time Efficient Lollygagger
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    What do you think is the greatest misunderstanding non-Muslims have about Islam?
     
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    Sheldon Well-Known Member

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    Kudos, a good idea. This is after all a debate forum.
     
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    Sheldon Well-Known Member

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    I'd imagine that it isn't a message from an extant deity would feature in most objections, by Muslims anyway. So I guess it would depend who you asked. At least this is a chance to scrutinise the Koran, surely that's laudable no matter what one's current position?
     
  7. KWED

    KWED Scratching head, scratching knee

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    Yes.
    Try me.
     
  8. KWED

    KWED Scratching head, scratching knee

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    That is a sectarian/political issue. I am dealing only with scriptural/ideological content.
     
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    KWED Scratching head, scratching knee

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    I have no idea. It likely varies a great deal depending on who and where you ask.
     
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    epronovost Well-Known Member

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    Considering that the answer to that question might affect which scriptures you consider canonical or not that might be of interest for that sort of discussion though.
     
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    Did you used to be a Muslim?
     
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    The heart of Islam is actually on how to approach Islam but most people don't recognize this and hence rely on conjecture of people including relying ilmel rijaal.
     
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    What does Islam say a muslims end goal is in the world and how should they achieve this?
     
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    Kooky Freedom from Sanity

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    What is the point of quoting scripture when we are dealing with an organized religion that has grown around multiple attempts at interpreting said scripture in particular ways? Wouldn't it make more sense to look at Islamic jurisprudence and theology and find the common or popular strands of religious interpretation and practice there?
     
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  15. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    So how do you know for a religion, which is based on faith, what is the correct answer? I mean, how do you know, because you can't use knowledge on faith, as it is not a matter of knowledge, but faith?
     
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  16. KWED

    KWED Scratching head, scratching knee

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    If people state their sect (if they have one) I will try to answer within that context if possible. However, my default scholar is Ibn Kathir (as his tafsir is the most widely used today, which avoids accusations of "non-mainstream" opinion). However, the idea was more about general info.
     
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    KWED Scratching head, scratching knee

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    We all used to be Muslim, according to Islam.
    Would it make a difference?
     
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  18. KWED

    KWED Scratching head, scratching knee

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    This is not the thread for you to be preaching your sectarian dark magic. ;)
     
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  19. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    How do you know that?
     
  20. KWED

    KWED Scratching head, scratching knee

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    Not sure what you mean. All Muslims should fully submit to Allah but that is a continuous process, not an end goal. The ultimate end goal is paradise, but that is not in this world.
     
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