As a Jew this is hard for me to explain

[james dixon]

I looked and looked and no land of the Israelites could be found

 

[james dixon]

Again I looked and looked and no israelite kingdom

could be found

 

[james dixon]

One last time I searched the ancient kingdoms for the Israelite nation and I lowed my head for it could not be found

 

[james dixon]

Wait,

after all this; I was wrong---da map has been found~~~~~

 

[RabbiO]

As a Jew this is hard for me to explain.....

Run that by me again, please.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

Run that by me again, please.

I am kinda doubting he is...you know.

 

[Thief]

As a Jew this is hard for me to explain

I’m 70 living in 2019ad. For those who didn’t know-------

“ad” means; The years “After Jesus’s death”.,.i.e. (ad)

2,019 years ago;.,.,,.,, Jesus walked the streets of Jerusalem

And He knew “Jerusalem” was not the “Promised Land”

Now over 2,000 years later I have found it.

The “Promised Land “ turns out to be-----

No,
It's not--
the Palestinian Land
now called “Israel”

But
The
“United States of America”
.,.,aka.,.,
USA
The United States​

And as an American, I consider a Jewish American to be just “an American” or a “Jewish American”.

But more importantly; I as an American; I view a Jew as a Jewish person. I view Jews who live in or born in “Israel” as Israelite’s; not a “Jew”, although they are from the same family.

there is a difference

No harm intended or implied

If I have offended, you

Please forgive me

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Ok? -

are you placing the political label in preference to the religious label
and then the inherited label last?

 

[james dixon]

What 'Israel' stands for?

you tell me---
King James Bible
And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel.
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I believe this is where "a coat of many colors" came from

 

[leov]

you tell me---
King James Bible
And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel.
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I believe this is where "a coat of many colors" came from

Israel means one who sees God. (Philo of Alexandria).

 

[james dixon]

Israel means one who sees God. (Philo of Alexandria).

Philo interpreted text as he saw it
But a bit one-sided
]
Philo of Alexandria (/ˈfaɪloʊ/; Ancient Greek: Φίλων, romanized: Phílōn; Hebrew: יְדִידְיָה הַכֹּהֵן‎, romanized: Yedidia (Jedediah) HaCohen; c. 20 BCE – c. 50 CE), also called Philo Judaeus, was a Hellenistic Jewish philosopher who lived in Alexandria, in the Roman province of Egypt.

Philo used philosophical allegory to harmonize Jewish scripture, mainly the Torah, with Greek philosophy. His method followed the practices of both Jewish exegesis and Stoic philosophy. His allegorical exegesis was important for some Christian Church Fathers, but he had very little reception history within the Rabbinic Judaism.[1] He adopted allegoricalinstead of literal interpretations of the Hebrew Bible.

Some scholars hold that his concept of the Logos as God's creative principle influenced early Christology. Other scholars deny direct influence but say that Philo and Early Christianity borrow from a common source.[2]

The only event in Philo's life that can be decisively dated is his participation in the embassy to Rome in 40 CE. He represented the Alexandrian Jews in a delegation to the Roman Emperor Gaius (Caligula) following civil strife between the Alexandrian Jewish and Greek communities. The story of this event, and a few other biographical details, are found in Josephus[3] and in Philo's own works, especially in Legatio ad Gaium (Embassy to Gaius) of which only two of the original five volumes survive.[4]

The thought of Philo was largely inspired by Aristobulus of Paneas and the Alexandrian School,[5][6]concerning his work "Wisdom of Solomon" and the occupations of the Therapeutæ and the Essenes.[7] Philo has never been claimed as a saint nor Doctor of the Church.[7]
Philo - Wikipedia

I’m not even sure if Philo of Alexandria was a jew?

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[james dixon]

Israel means one who sees God. (Philo of Alexandria).

If believing this helps you sleep at night; then who am I to disturb your sleep

Maybe someday we will meet on better terms -

btw: seeing and believing are not one in the same
but whatever you see may it be a comforting sight to see
-

 

[leov]

Philo interpreted text as he saw it
But a bit one-sided
]
Philo of Alexandria (/ˈfaɪloʊ/; Ancient Greek: Φίλων, romanized: Phílōn; Hebrew: יְדִידְיָה הַכֹּהֵן‎, romanized: Yedidia (Jedediah) HaCohen; c. 20 BCE – c. 50 CE), also called Philo Judaeus, was a Hellenistic Jewish philosopher who lived in Alexandria, in the Roman province of Egypt.

Philo used philosophical allegory to harmonize Jewish scripture, mainly the Torah, with Greek philosophy. His method followed the practices of both Jewish exegesis and Stoic philosophy. His allegorical exegesis was important for some Christian Church Fathers, but he had very little reception history within the Rabbinic Judaism.[1] He adopted allegoricalinstead of literal interpretations of the Hebrew Bible.

Some scholars hold that his concept of the Logos as God's creative principle influenced early Christology. Other scholars deny direct influence but say that Philo and Early Christianity borrow from a common source.[2]

The only event in Philo's life that can be decisively dated is his participation in the embassy to Rome in 40 CE. He represented the Alexandrian Jews in a delegation to the Roman Emperor Gaius (Caligula) following civil strife between the Alexandrian Jewish and Greek communities. The story of this event, and a few other biographical details, are found in Josephus[3] and in Philo's own works, especially in Legatio ad Gaium (Embassy to Gaius) of which only two of the original five volumes survive.[4]

The thought of Philo was largely inspired by Aristobulus of Paneas and the Alexandrian School,[5][6]concerning his work "Wisdom of Solomon" and the occupations of the Therapeutæ and the Essenes.[7] Philo has never been claimed as a saint nor Doctor of the Church.[7]
Philo - Wikipedia

I’m not even sure if Philo of Alexandria was a jew?

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If you understand this: , “Behold, an Israelite indeed, ..." Jn1:47 You may understand the verse it taken from?

 

[leov]

If believing this helps you sleep at night; then who am I to disturb your sleep

Maybe someday we will meet on better terms -
Just
btw: seeing and believing are not one in the same
but whatever you see may it be a comforting sight to see
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Well, Paul said that faith is just the first step.

 

[james dixon]

If you understand this: , “Behold, an Israelite indeed, ..." Jn1:47 You may understand the verse it taken from?

Sorry, my mistake; I mistook Judaeus with Judas

Judas
noun [ C ] UK /ˈdʒuː.dəs/ US /ˈdʒuː.dəs/
a person who is not loyal to a friend and helps the friend's enemies
Judas | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary

Judas
Noun Ju·das | \ ˈjü-dəs \
Definition of Judas
1a : the apostle who in the Gospel accounts betrayed Jesus
b : a son of James and one of the twelve apostles
2 : TRAITOR
especially : one who betrays under the guise of friendship
Definition of JUDAS

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[Muffled]

As a Jew this is hard for me to explain

I’m 70 living in 2019ad. For those who didn’t know-------

“ad” means; The years “After Jesus’s death”.,.i.e. (ad)

2,019 years ago;.,.,,.,, Jesus walked the streets of Jerusalem

And He knew “Jerusalem” was not the “Promised Land”

Now over 2,000 years later I have found it.

The “Promised Land “ turns out to be-----

No,
It's not--
the Palestinian Land
now called “Israel”

But
The
“United States of America”
.,.,aka.,.,
USA
The United States​

And as an American, I consider a Jewish American to be just “an American” or a “Jewish American”.

But more importantly; I as an American; I view a Jew as a Jewish person. I view Jews who live in or born in “Israel” as Israelite’s; not a “Jew”, although they are from the same family.

there is a difference

No harm intended or implied

If I have offended, you

Please forgive me

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Ok? -

I believe the promise was to Abraham. Technically speaking that could be all the offspring of Abraham which could include some Arabs. Certainly the DNA is similar. Philistines (where the name Palestine comes from) are probably not numerous but also not under the promise. Then there are descendants of the Samaritans who were Assyrians by race and only quasi-Jewish by adopting a form of the religion who probably were not under the promise either because the promise was not to a religion.

 

[Muffled]

You could always use "CE", which stands for Common Era.

I believe they use the same date. Change the name but the concept is still there.

 

[Muffled]

Scripturally speaking the promised land is really the new Jerusalem. The old Testament promised land is just foreshadowing it. As Abraham is said to have "looked for a city whose builder and maker was God" And Isaiah delivered the Word of the LORD which was that God Himself would create Jerusalem. (Isaiah 65:18) This city is not made with human hands. The old Jerusalem of this world is only a typology of what awaits.

And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. (Rev. 21:2)

Heb 11:9 By faith he went to live in the land of promise, as in a foreign land, living in tents with Isaac and Jacob, heirs with him of the same promise. 10 For he was looking forward to the city that has foundations, whose designer and builder is God

I believe the land he entered was the one promised but how well he was informed about the future is known only by the writer of Hebrews and God.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I believe they use the same date. Change the name but the concept is still there.

That is true. The problem is that AD does not accurately reflect the date of Jesus anyway. The common date for Jesus's birth is thought to be roughly 4 BC. Though the author of Luke was rather confused, or made an error when he tried to find an excuse to get the couple to Bethlehem.

 

[james dixon]

The biblical “promised land” is a place full of milk and honey and a place where they would prosper.

The land of Israel today is not that place.

The United States of America is the Promised Land; in my view of things

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[IndigoChild5559]

As a Jew this is hard for me to explain

I’m 70 living in 2019ad. For those who didn’t know-------

“ad” means; The years “After Jesus’s death”.,.i.e. (ad)

2,019 years ago;.,.,,.,, Jesus walked the streets of Jerusalem

And He knew “Jerusalem” was not the “Promised Land”

Now over 2,000 years later I have found it.

The “Promised Land “ turns out to be-----

No,
It's not--
the Palestinian Land
now called “Israel”

But
The
“United States of America”
.,.,aka.,.,
USA
The United States​

And as an American, I consider a Jewish American to be just “an American” or a “Jewish American”.

But more importantly; I as an American; I view a Jew as a Jewish person. I view Jews who live in or born in “Israel” as Israelite’s; not a “Jew”, although they are from the same family.

there is a difference

No harm intended or implied

If I have offended, you

Please forgive me

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Ok? -

What in the world makes you think the Promised Land is the USA? That is certainly not what God promised Abraham in Genesis.