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Are you vaccinated?

Discussion in 'COVID-19' started by Spiderman, Feb 7, 2022.

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  1. Yes

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  2. No

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    27.5%
  1. Subduction Zone

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    That is not peer reviewed. It is by a non expert in the field that appears to be just another conspiracy theorist.
     
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    The vaccines have been safety tested. The results have been peer reviewed. You don't even know what a peer reviewed article is. All you have is an almost Alex Jones level of conspiracy theories.
     
  3. Jolly

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    Not supported by Scientific "consensus" or regulators. Says everything anyone needs to know really.
     
  4. Jolly

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    Again it has to be peer reviewed to appear on
    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/
    As an article DOH!
     
  5. Jolly

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    oh please show me the evidence
     
  6. Subduction Zone

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    Yes, it tells us that your source is a loon.
     
  7. Subduction Zone

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    Where does it say that? Have you ever read a peer reviewed article? Your article was only an opinion piece.
     
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  8. metis

    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    I do know where the problem really lies.
     
  9. Subduction Zone

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    What do you want evidence of? Be specific.

    EDIT: And I need a sign that you can be honest. You need to admit that the article by your loon was not peer reviewed.
     
  10. Jolly

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    I am starting to doubt that.

    Serious Adverse Events of Special Interest Following mRNA Vaccination in Randomized Trials by Joseph Fraiman, Juan Erviti, Mark Jones, Sander Greenland, Patrick Whelan, Robert M. Kaplan, Peter Doshi :: SSRN
    "The excess risk of serious adverse events of special interest surpassed the risk reduction for COVID-19 hospitalization relative to the placebo group in both Pfizer and Moderna trials"
    Enjoy this is pre print.
     
  11. Jolly

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    No it means you understand nothing about how science works or when consensus is used- and what scientists having to rely on consensus signifies.
     
  12. Jolly

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    Evidence for your claim that the vaccines have been saftey tested.

    You speak about honest you are not really demonstrating much.
     
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    You can't be rude and demand evidence. Show some good faith. Apologize for your false remark and I will gladly provide evidence.
     
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    " This is a preprint article, it offers immediate access but has not been peer reviewed."
     
  15. Subduction Zone

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    Nope, now you are projecting.

    You do not even understand peer review. You are in no position to tell others what they do or do not understand.
     
  16. Jolly

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    You have a lot of success with these troll tactics?

    Claims are not made true simply by stating them, and repetition of the same makes little difference either.

    If you are simply intend on continuing to ignore the actual discussion and rest on accusations, and insult- there is little point in having a discussion at all.

    As they say if you have to resort to insults you have lost the argument. I see nothing honest about your mode of discussion and it appears to me little more then an intention to close debate. You might believe you have succeeded but I'm confident anyone reading this thread will see who is holding which postion and acting honestly in the discussion.

    You offer no actual evidence or conter points - you simply claim conspiracy, lies and then insult. Ergo you have nothing to add here. And as I said most reasonable people will see that.
     
  17. metis

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    You have already established that you will post anything that fits your opinion, and then you did not tell the truth when you claimed it was peer-reviewed. Also, you misrepresented what peer-review was for when you said it was for consensus. That's not what it's for-- it's for other scientists to check the evidence and comment on it one way or the other.

    You simply do not understand how we work.
     
  18. Jolly

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    The article I shared is peer reviewed. You can keep claiming it isnt all you like- reality is it is.
    Ergo you claim to repect peer review until the study goes against your postion.


    Which I never said- you wanna just make stuff up- many consider that lying


    No peer review cannot check the "evidence" repeat experiment does that. It can only check the methodology.


    Scientist? Yeah I do- you find the evidence to support your funding. :)

    Cant wait for the book 'confessions of a scientific hitman' but know it's never gonna be written because empathy and love for mankind is irrational emotion.
     
  19. metis

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    As I showed you on a link, it was and is not peer-reviewed, so you are just another person here that posts nonsense and expects us to believe it.

    Bye.
     
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    You posted no such thing. Bye
     
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