Are You Mutable or Immutable?

[SalixIncendium]

Sit down (okay, since you're in front of a screen, chances are that you already are sitting) and close your eyes...

...well not this very second. wait til you're done reading the OP.

Think of what "I" is to you in its most basic sense. Drop anything that isn't "I". Eliminate anything that is not intrinsic to experience or perception. Drop anything that is not the experiencer.

Is your "I", it its most basic sense, mutable (subject to change) or immutable (unchanging in nature; constant)?

How do you know this?

 

[Spirit of Light]

Sit down (okay, since you're in front of a screen, chances are that you already are sitting) and close your eyes...

...well not this very second. wait til you're done reading the OP.

Think of what "I" is to you in its most basic sense. Drop anything that isn't "I". Eliminate anything that is not intrinsic to experience or perception. Drop anything that is not the experiencer.

Is your "I", it its most basic sense, mutable (subject to change) or immutable (unchanging in nature; constant)?

How do you know this?

Ego or "I" is mutable even fully removable

 

[SalixIncendium]

Ego or "I" is mutable even fully removable

So for you, the "I" is the same as ego? When it is removed, you cease to experience? You cease to be?

 

[ChristineM]

Sit down (okay, since you're in front of a screen, chances are that you already are sitting) and close your eyes...

...well not this very second. wait til you're done reading the OP.

Think of what "I" is to you in its most basic sense. Drop anything that isn't "I". Eliminate anything that is not intrinsic to experience or perception. Drop anything that is not the experiencer.

Is your "I", it its most basic sense, mutable (subject to change) or immutable (unchanging in nature; constant)?

How do you know this?

I am i but i change every day, new experience forges a new, often, but not always, improved i. Yes mutable

 

[Secret Chief]

Mutable. The universe is not set in amber. All things constantly change, including therefore, of course, those brief little processes called people.

 

[Spirit of Light]

So for you, the "I" is the same as ego? When it is removed, you cease to experience? You cease to be?

The notion of a self/ego/I, do end when the ego has been let go of yes.
Experiences is still there, highen even in senses, but there is no clinging to it.
Example from the past when someone ridicule ideas, belief, views and opinion held by Amanaki, the response with anger, frustration and so on is no longer a part of it.
Selfless (can of course be fragments of self in form left) means that yes the message is read, observed then either a friendly response will come, or the comment is left alone. No need to cling to some negativity written or said by someone else. The message is their views, opinion or ego.

 

[Secret Chief]

I am i but i change every day, new experience forges a new, often, but not always, improved i. Yes mutable

I preferred the yesterday me.

 

[SalixIncendium]

I am i but i change every day, new experience forges a new, often, but not always, improved i. Yes mutable

What is it in your "I" that changes?

 

[SalixIncendium]

Mutable. The universe is not set in amber. All things constantly change, including therefore, of course, those brief little processes called people.

What is it in your person that changes?

 

[SalixIncendium]

Experiences is still there, highen even in senes, but there is no clinging to it.

If there is no "I" to experience these experiences, how do you know that the experiences are still there?

 

[Secret Chief]

What is it in your person that changes?

The truest answer I can think of is simply everything, although moment to moment it is usually not perceptible by myself or others. But to somewhat reiterate - what we call "I" is a useful label to refer to this swirling energy/matter episode.

 

[crossfire]

Mutable. Observation is not an energetically passive process. Observing or being observed causes change.

 

[Secret Chief]

@SalixIncendium

What do you think? (Currently )

 

[SalixIncendium]

Mutable. Observation is not an energetically passive process. Observing or being observed causes change.

What is it specifically that changes?

 

[ChristineM]

What is it in your "I" that changes?

Oh, an easy one...

Trivial things that accumulate, one example, associated with RF.
Yesterday i had no idea if @popeadope was alive and kicking or languishing on death row. Today i know he's safe under the name of @Spiderman. That eases my mind a little.

 

[Spirit of Light]

If there is no "I" to experience these experiences, how do you know that the experiences are still there?

The being who in the past identified as Amanaki ( the living being in body) still live but do not cling to a certain identity. So consciously knowing that a message is revieved is there. The experience of reading/hearing the message is there.
But no matter what the message is, there is no feeling of " oh that is making "me" feel good or bad angry or sad. It is just an opinion send by an other being.

Can the feeling of happy be felt? As compassion for others yes.
Can the feeling of Sadness be felt? As compassion for those who suffer yes.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Oh, an easy one...

Trivial things that accumulate, one example, associated with RF.
Yesterday i had no idea if @popeadope was alive and kicking or languishing on death row. Today i know he's safe under the name of @Spiderman. That eases my mind a little.

Very good example of compassion for someone who has been missing

 

[SalixIncendium]

@SalixIncendium

What do you think? (Currently )

If you don't mind, I'd like to hold off on answering for a couple of reasons:

I don't want it to be assumed I started this thread so I can impose my own views.

I kind of want to hear others thoughts without any influence of my personal perspective so members' posts are not influenced by what they think I want to hear.

If you want a preview, I can drop you a PM...

 

[SalixIncendium]

Oh, an easy one...

Trivial things that accumulate, one example, associated with RF.
Yesterday i had no idea if @popeadope was alive and kicking or languishing on death row. Today i know he's safe under the name of @Spiderman. That eases my mind a little.

So to you, knowledge is "I"? If you didn't have this knowledge, does the "I" cease to be?

 

[crossfire]

What is it specifically that changes?

You said include anything intrinsic to experience or perception. You have heard of the double slit experiment? Observation causes change.