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Featured Are You Listening to What is within You?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Fool, Jun 16, 2018.

  1. Unveiled Artist

    Unveiled Artist Veteran Member

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    How does this relate to my comment on consciousness come from the brain and holy spirit comes from god?
     
  2. Fool

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    being compassionate comes from love. being inconsiderate comes from the lack of compassion.
     
  3. Earthling

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    Then how come it much more often is demonstrable in how they hate?
     
  4. sojourner

    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    No, merely reminding you of the facet of God that is transcendent, rather than imminent. We have to deal with both in order to present a broader theological picture.
     
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    Earthling David Henson

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    i do, but I don't always trust it.
     
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    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    Because more often than not the hatred is nothing more than projection.
     
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    Earthling David Henson

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    The real question is can one be mistaken for the other?
     
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    No it isn't. The Holy spirit has nothing to do with the self.

    Blasphemy is an anglicized version of the Greek word blasphemia which in Greek meant any injurious, abusive or defamatory speech towards God or men. The English version of the word though, usually applies only to such speech directed to God or sacred things. Blasphemy was only punishable by death under the Mosaic Law.

    Satan was the first and remains the primary instigator of blasphemy (Genesis 3:1-5 / John 8:44-49) for suggesting that God was untruthful. Calling upon the name of God, as mentioned at Genesis 4:26 was apparently not done in an appropriate way, as is indicated by the Jerusalem Targum, which says: "That was the generation in whose days they began to err, and to make themselves idols, and surnamed their idols by the name of the Word of the Lord." It is believed that men began applying the name of God to men, and/or to idols of worship.
    The first three of the Ten Commandments dealt with Jehovah God's sovereignty and exclusive right deserving worship.

    Calling down evil upon God or cursing a chieftain was also blasphemy deserving death. The first case of this happening after the Ten Words were given was when a son of an Israelite woman and an Egyptian man was stoned for abusing the name of God and calling down evil upon it. From then on the offense was punishable by stoning to death. (Exodus 20:1-7 / Leviticus 24:10-16)

    Blasphemy didn't need to be expressed vocally in the Hebrew Scriptures to be considered as blasphemy. A blatant disrespect for Jehovah God's laws was also considered blasphemy, though the unintentional lawbreaker was given mercy. (Numbers 15:27-31 / Nehemiah 9:18) It didn't always result in death.

    Some examples of blasphemy in the Hebrew Scriptures are Eli's sons (1 Samuel 3:12-13), the Assyrian official Rabshakeh, (2 Kings 19:4-6, 22-23) and that of false prophets (Jeremiah 23:16-17). Naboth, though innocent, was convicted of blasphemy and was stoned to death based upon the testimony of false witnesses.

    The incorrect view began to take effect that the pronunciation of God's name was a blasphemous act based upon a misapplication of Leviticus 24:10-16. Talmudic tradition also indicates that upon hearing the testimony of blasphemous words of the accused, religious judges should tear their garments; this is based upon 2 Kings 18:37; 19:1-4. (Jewish Encyclopedia, 1976, Vol. III, p. 237)

    The importance of the name in the Hebrew Scriptures and among Semitic people should not be overlooked. According to Professor G.T. Manely: "A study of the word 'name' in the OT reveals how much it means in Hebrew. The name is no mere label, but is significant of the real personality of him to whom it belongs. . . . When a person puts his 'name' upon a thing or another person the latter comes under his influence and protection." (New Bible Dictionary, edited by J. D. Douglas, 1985, p. 430.)

    Deuteronomy 23:2 forbids illegitimate children from coming into the congregation. Adultery, punishable by the death of the unborn child along with the mother and father, (Leviticus 20:10 / Deuteronomy 22:22) was forbidden due to the breakdown of the family arrangement and would result in the child having no inheritance. All of this would have a devastating effect upon society. For this reason the illegitimate child of David was taken. (2 Samuel 12:14) Since Jehovah had a Kingdom covenant with David he wasn't put to death. (2 Samuel 7:11-16)

    Paul used the Greek verb blasphemeo at Romans 2:24 in reference to Ezekiel 36:20-21 which demonstrates the harmony of the basic meaning of the word from Hebrew to Greek. Herod committed blasphemy when he claimed the prerogative of God (Acts 12:21-22)
    Jesus was accused of blasphemy when he forgave sins, (Matthew 9:2-3) when he claimed to be God's son, (John 10:33-36) and for telling the Sanhedrin that he would sit at the right hand of God, to which they proclaimed him worthy of death. (Mark 14:61-64) They had no authority from the Romans, however, so they shrewdly changed the charge to sedition. (John 18:29 - 19:16)

    Blasphemy against the holy spirit is the only unforgivable sin (Luke 12:10) Blasphemy comes from the heart and must be a willful and deliberate act, not merely a result of imperfection or human weakness.
     
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    To say Christ wasn't a Christian is like saying Buddha wasn't a Buddhist.
     
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    No, Holy Spirit is two words, holy meaning belonging to God and spirit means invisible active force. Holy Spirit is God's invisible active force, the means of him accomplishing things, like the creation of the universe and instruction of two or more people gathered together to learn from him.
     
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    Yeah. I don't think so. The Inquisition, the Crusades, even world wars 1 and 2 where Christians were killing Christians.
     
  12. sojourner

    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    Jesus was a Jew.
     
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    None of that was projection? Srrsly? We often hate in others what we hate within ourselves, but can’t face.
     
  14. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    Buddha wasn't. Buddhism came up around after and it wasn't even called Buddhism at first.
     
  15. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    It's the same thing as it's just a personification of the inner voice that occurs in pretty much everybody's head.

    There's no difference between that, or calling it Jiminy Cricket, or simply having a conversation with yourself.
     
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  16. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    Hmmm..... I wonder how that was arrived at?
     
  17. WalterTrull

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    Nope.
    Yup, They do.
     
  18. Unveiled Artist

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    Thats creepy. We think of the weirdest definitions of the brain processes just to fit everyone in a made up box through vague and generalize religious language. If you call god thoughts, everyone would be talking to god. Think definitions are going a bit overboard. :confused: ya think? o_O
     
  19. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    I can understand why you disagree.

    That voice you hear however, is essentially no different than anybody else's. Just under a different theme and wrapping and personalized to your taste.
     
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  20. Unveiled Artist

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    Christ was a jew
    Siddhartha was from Lumbini (modern Nepal)

    Christ wasnt a christian, his disciples were
    The Buddha wasnt a Buddhist, his disciples were

    Christ followed judaism
    The Siddhartha followed no one
     
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