Are You A Feminist, But Not a "Feminist"?

[Debater Slayer]

I found many of the questions overly simplistic and agenda-laden--especially in trying to portray men and women as having a conflict of interest rather than common goals and rights.

I believe women have as much right to be traditionalists as they do to be feminists. It seems inherently contradictory to me to support freedom of thought for women but not when they adopt a conservative or traditionalist worldview.

 

[Orbit]

 

[Debater Slayer]

86% Liberal Feminist.

Many questions I couldn't answer one way or the other. Like "White men do X"
How the hell am I supposed to know what White men do?

Those ones were so ignorant and simplistic. As an Arab living in the Middle East and witnessing sexism very frequently, the idea that "white men" are the primary perpetuators of sexism and the patriarchy strikes me as misinformed and sometimes indicative of racism.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

77% Liberal Feminist

 

[Subduction Zone]

I got "Where's mah beer?"

 

[Revoltingest]

Wait...but if you don't know what my label means, how would that help you?

It's easier to stereotype you if I don't know what it means.
I need only guess, & then proclaim it the truth.

 

[SomeRandom]

Those ones were so ignorant and simplistic. As an Arab living in the Middle East and witnessing sexism very frequently, the idea that "white men" are the primary perpetuators of sexism and the patriarchy strikes me as misinformed and sometimes indicative of racism.

To be fair, in the West that may hold true. Since that also happens to be one of the largest demographics. Not that I agree with the sentiment, mind you.
I think as a society each of us has a greater responsibility to try to stop any sort of ism we see take place

 

[SomeRandom]

I’m a Marxist feminist! 72%
Knew it!

 

[Earthtank]

While i took the test for fun i do think its inherently biased with its loaded questions. With that said, see my results below

 

[Revoltingest]

While i took the test for fun i do think its inherently biased with its loaded questions. With that said, see my results below

All such tests are imperfect....laden with cultural bias,
ill defined terms, & less than perfect design.
Still, they can be fun, & offer a little insight.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I got 61% Traditionalist and 68% Liberal Feminist. I feel that sums up my views well. I accept that there's real biological differences between men and women but that there's exceptions to the rule, and we should look at what is best for the individual over just pigeon-holing them by a group they belong to.

Traditionalism
Traditionalism refers to illiberal strands of philosophy which seek to preserve what they see as the “natural” and “traditional” order of things. In the past, this standpoint was chiefly represented by early 20th century thinkers such as Julius Evola and Rene Guenon. After a hiatus following World War II, Traditionalism has resurfaced as a new type of “conservatism to the right of mainstream conservatism.” It is chiefly popular among younger voters who are skeptical of the liberal enlightenment principles that mainstream conservatives accept, uniting instead behind national pride, a critical stance towards feminism and Islam, and resistance to globalism.

Liberal Feminism
Liberal Feminism refers to feminist philosophy rooted in enlightenment principles. Its classical works were penned by thinkers such as Mary Wollstonecraft and John Stuart Mill. This type of feminism holds that men and women are each other’s equals and as such deserve equal rights. It is this type of feminism that people allude to when they say “feminism just means equal rights.”

As opposed to other forms of feminism, Liberal Feminism is individualistic (rather than group-based): Men and women deserve equal rights because both are individuals. Rights are granted to individuals, not genders or groups.

Liberal Feminism believes in equality of rights, not in equality of outcomes. For example, if a profession is dominated by only one gender, that does not necessarily mean that something is wrong: It could be the result of individuals making different decisions in life.

(My worldview is more akin to traditionalism as defined here.)

 

[Stevicus]

This forum has been sleeping for a long while.
Time to wake it. This strikes me as a men's issue
primarily, but of course it's open to all genders.
And let's all be kind, & seek common ground.

I took a test, & discovered I'm 86% liberal feminist.
It appears that I'm a feminist, either "liberal feminist" or
"libertarian feminist" But I don't identify as an un-prefixed
"feminist" because it's a clique whose culture & values
are foreign to me. I'm a big fan of equal rights, often
called "egalitarian".
Anyone else in this boat?

You can take it here....
Feminism Test (5 Scale)

The test says this of my result...
Liberal Feminism
Liberal Feminism refers to feminist philosophy rooted in enlightenment principles. Its classical works were penned by thinkers such as Mary Wollstonecraft and John Stuart Mill. This type of feminism holds that men and women are each other’s equals and as such deserve equal rights. It is this type of feminism that people allude to when they say “feminism just means equal rights.”

As opposed to other forms of feminism, Liberal Feminism is individualistic (rather than group-based): Men and women deserve equal rights because both are individuals. Rights are granted to individuals, not genders or groups.

Liberal Feminism believes in equality of rights, not in equality of outcomes. For example, if a profession is dominated by only one gender, that does not necessarily mean that something is wrong: It could be the result of individuals making different decisions in life.

I've heard it said that feminism is the radical notion that women are people, too. I believe that women are people, so therefore I am a feminist.

 

[Revoltingest]

I've heard it said that feminism is the radical notion that women are people, too. I believe that women are people, so therefore I am a feminist.

That's slightly broader than RF's defintion....

Feminist: Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, cultural, and social rights for women. This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment.

 

[Stevicus]

That's slightly broader than RF's defintion....

Feminist: Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, cultural, and social rights for women. This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment.

It was a lot simpler back when they called it "women's lib." Now, one has to have an advanced degree in gender studies to even be able to understand it.

 

[icehorse]

Liberal Feminism believes in equality of rights, not in equality of outcomes

This is me. My wife argues that it's not so simple, but this is still how I look at it.

Put another way, I think of myself as a "2nd wave" feminist and I grow increasingly leery of the 3rd and 4th waves.

 

[Left Coast]

Fascinating quiz. I'm a near-tie between Liberal and Marxist Feminism. Arguments for women's equality appeal to me both on the basis of individual rights and through the paradigm that capitalism and patriarchy are intertwined.

 

[Amandi]