The Bible says the son of God is God's Word but many people say the Bible is God 's word.
Are they both God's word?
Are they both God's word?
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Are there two God's words?
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Unveiled Artist
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From how I understand it is:
The Bible speaks about the Word (Christ/Messanger) and the Word speaks about God (Source/The Message itself).
The Bible isn't the Word. It's about the Word and the Word is about the Father.
I would be more specific and say the Word if FROM the Father.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Those prepositions can get ya. Yes, from sounds more accurate. Like Father, Like Son.
There is one Word of God.
Jesus is God's Word embodied in human form (John 1:14, Colossians 2:9).
Every word that God speaks represents something of his will, his intention, his heart, and his truth. Jesus is the perfect representation of God to us in this way.
I should also point out that in the Aramiac targums of the Bible (Jewish paraphrase and commentaries of the Bible), they often refer to God himself as "the Word of God". Such as when they refer to the "Angel of the Lord" (which is known by them to be God himself) as "The Word". This actually makes a lot more sense to us then why John would use this terminology of "The Word". It is a concept the 1st century Jews would have already been familiar with.
The Bible is a record of God's Word as given to us through the prophets and apostles. Nothing in there goes against what Jesus reveals to us as the Word made flesh. Nothing in either Jesus or the Bible goes against God's word as it existed before creation and will eternally exist (Matthew 24:35) because they are all the same Word of God revealed in different ways to us.
Jesus refers to scripture as the Word of God: Mark 7:13
The Word God reveals to us is always true and representative of God, needing no editing or changing. The Word of God as spoken to Abraham is still the Word of God today.
The Jesus we read about in Jerusalem is still the same Jesus alive today in Heaven seated at the right hand of the Father.
God doesn't change, and neither does his Word.
So in the sense that the Bible is an accurate record of God's Word to us it is accurate to call it the Word of God; because it will never stop being God's Word.
However, it would be wrong to conclude that there is more than one of God's Word simply because it is revealed and made manifest to us in different ways.
Jesus is God's Word embodied in human form (John 1:14, Colossians 2:9).
Every word that God speaks represents something of his will, his intention, his heart, and his truth. Jesus is the perfect representation of God to us in this way.
I should also point out that in the Aramiac targums of the Bible (Jewish paraphrase and commentaries of the Bible), they often refer to God himself as "the Word of God". Such as when they refer to the "Angel of the Lord" (which is known by them to be God himself) as "The Word". This actually makes a lot more sense to us then why John would use this terminology of "The Word". It is a concept the 1st century Jews would have already been familiar with.
The Bible is a record of God's Word as given to us through the prophets and apostles. Nothing in there goes against what Jesus reveals to us as the Word made flesh. Nothing in either Jesus or the Bible goes against God's word as it existed before creation and will eternally exist (Matthew 24:35) because they are all the same Word of God revealed in different ways to us.
Jesus refers to scripture as the Word of God: Mark 7:13
The Word God reveals to us is always true and representative of God, needing no editing or changing. The Word of God as spoken to Abraham is still the Word of God today.
The Jesus we read about in Jerusalem is still the same Jesus alive today in Heaven seated at the right hand of the Father.
God doesn't change, and neither does his Word.
So in the sense that the Bible is an accurate record of God's Word to us it is accurate to call it the Word of God; because it will never stop being God's Word.
However, it would be wrong to conclude that there is more than one of God's Word simply because it is revealed and made manifest to us in different ways.
Tell me how you know Mark 7:13 is about the written word.
Open up Mark 7 and look at the context. Jesus is telling them that they violate the commandments of God by following the traditions of men, and specifically uses an example from one of the ten commandments - which is found in scripture.
So if I put something good in something which is not good that which is not good becomes good according to you?
What I mean is the ten commandments are found in the book so according to you that makes the whole book the same as the ten commandments. True?
Do you wish me to remind you of the Law which is found in the Bible?
Must be an uh .....I do not want to say it
Tumah
Veteran Member
No. That's just nonsense. Only the Bible is G-d's Word.
Anything that says differently is not G-d's Word.
Is the Bible as is G-d's Word, according to you? THEY say God will not let it be changed. But it has been changed. Can you explain this?
Tumah
Veteran Member
You've left out enough information in your response as to make it difficult to parse what you're trying to ask me. So I'm just going to pretend I know and answer accordingly.
The Bible as it is, is G-d's Word. Only some people have added extra books to the Bible. That's where the problem starts. The Bible itself hasn't changed, only some people's perception of what constitutes the Bible.
Mark 7 shows us that Jesus is talking about a commandment clearly found in the Bible (One of the 10 commandments, to be exact).
So Jesus does refer to the contents of scripture as God's Word, which answers your original question.
Whether or not God can command you something not found in the Bible is irrelevent to whether or not the Bible is God's Word.
Having said that, I can go on to answer your question anyway: God can command you specifically to do something that the Bible doesn't already tell you (such as telling you to go to a specific place, do a specific task, etc), but what He commands you to do will never violate what He has already revealed in His Word. God does not contradict Himself.
Is what we have what was written originally? All of it? Every word, according to you, is what the men wrote and communicated accurately. True?
SOME contents of scripture is God's word. I believe that. But you believe because some of it is God's word then all of it is God's word. I am asking you to give me convincing evidence of it.
OK. I can't complain.
I believe this statement is true.
Tumah
Veteran Member
Definitely the Pentatuech. The rest doesn't matter as much, but its definitely accurate enough.
I believe that it is "sufficient enough". You might look up the word "accurate". I did.
