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Discussion in 'Evolution Vs. Creationism' started by YoursTrue, Apr 26, 2021.

  1. YoursTrue

    YoursTrue We know gravity by happenstance. (Newton)

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    Are scientists any closer to figuring out, since Darwin's theory was expounded, what is that proposed unknown common ancestor of gorillas, chimpanzees and humans? With all those bones and dna findings, still no certain common ancestor?
     
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  2. Altfish

    Altfish Veteran Member

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    Yes, of course they have ... google "Evolutionary tree of life" and follow it backwards
     
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  3. Secret Chief

    Secret Chief Meghalayan Ape

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    What about some googling? Or do you really just mean "I don't accept evolution as it goes against my religious beliefs."

    Timeline of human evolution - Wikipedia
     
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  4. YoursTrue

    YoursTrue We know gravity by happenstance. (Newton)

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    Right. So you're saying the common ancestor is??? Dirt? Clay? Bacteria? Help out here, please, in a few words. Thanks. Don't be shy, say what you think about the now known as you indicate, or perhaps unknown common ancestor between specifically gorillas and humans...you know, what scientists have found out.
     
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  5. questfortruth

    questfortruth Well-Known Member

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    God is the father of all. Thus, He is the common ancestor.
     
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    epronovost Well-Known Member

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    It would be an animal of the same familly as Sahelanthropus tchadensis if not that very specimen itself. That's not possible to know for sure since we don't have DNA of that specific animal though it would be a close match due to its anatomical feature and the timeline. There are probably dozens of species of hominini and hybrids that lived over hundreds of thousands of years that are common ancestors/cousins of both gorillas and humans.
     
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  7. Altfish

    Altfish Veteran Member

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    No, I thought 'dirt' was the Bible's explanation.

    Are you incapable of googling?
    First hit for me said "We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor. All apes and monkeys share a more distant relative, which lived about 25 million years ago."

    Look if you can't accept evolution, that's ok, it is your loss.
    BUT don't try to mock something that you obviously don't understaand and know nothing about
     
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  8. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Pan

    Look it up
     
  9. ratiocinator

    ratiocinator Lightly seared on the reality grill.

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    Here (yet again) is a good article about the genetic evidence (that you've already totally ignored at least twice): Genesis and the Genome (pdf).

    Yet again - it's pointless asking questions if you just ignore the answers and refuse to learn anything.
     
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  10. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    as soon as they find.......the rib
    the one that Eve was made from
     
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  11. HonestJoe

    HonestJoe Well-Known Member

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    You know you're on a religion forum? And in the "Same Faith Debates" section for some reason too. If you have a science question, wouldn't it make sense to ask it on on a science forum?
     
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  12. metis

    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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  13. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    ok.....call me stupid.....if you must
    BUT

    Genesis indicates a sudden change in the direction of Man

    and you want to disagree?
     
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  15. SkepticThinker

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    You didn't Google it, did you?
     
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  16. SigurdReginson

    SigurdReginson Well-Known Member
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    Maybe you could expound on your ideas more. What indication is there in genesis for the sudden change of man? How does this relate to archaeology and the fossil records?
     
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    Wild Fox Well-Known Member

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    Pan as in peter pan (you know the one that can fly) or pan as in the god pan ( the one with the horns) or the ape pan as in I am an ape man?
     
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  18. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Last one
     
  19. Dan From Smithville

    Dan From Smithville Veteran Member
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    Does not knowing it mean that it doesn't exist? Does it mean that theory falls apart?
     
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  20. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    It seems every fossil is transitional
     
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