Are Muslims disobeying the Qur'an by participating in this forum?

[firedragon]

Do you deny that Mohamed and his Merry Men raped female captives?

Yes. I am not obsessed in interpreting everything as rape like you mate. And you have to provide primary evidence.

 

[KWED]

No where does it say "rape". And it says clearly Taqwa, fear God, etc etc. So your rape understanding is your personal imposition.

There is no concept of "rape" (sex without consent) in the Quran or sunnah. The right of sexual access is granted by marriage or ownership. Consent is irrelevant.

 

[KWED]

Heads up. You forgot to chastise @stanberger for “cherrypicking” good old 2:256.

Behave! We all know that "cherry-picking" and "But Context!" only apply to criticism of Islam. If you are defending it, you can cherry-pick as many out-of-context one liners as you like.

 

[KWED]

Just out of curiosity, would you mind telling me if you’re a convert/revert.

I would guess revert, by their delivery and patchy knowledge of Islam.

 

[stevecanuck]

I would guess revert, by their delivery and patchy knowledge of Islam.

Yes, it’s as though you can recognize the talking points, and as you say, the delivery. Another clue is that when they spout one of the standard lies they’ve been fed (in this case that the Qur’an explicitly forbids the killing of women and children in war), they disappear when challenged to provide the verse number.

My unflattering opinion of Western converts is that they’re desperately searching for an anchor in life and have chosen it to be Islam. They reason that the best way to learn about it is to ask an Imam. What they don’t realize is that they’re going to get the white-washed version, and then they jump in with both feet without properly investigating it themselves. By then they’re too committed to back away. This all IMO.

 

[KWED]

Yes, it’s as though you can recognize the talking points, and as you say, the delivery. Another clue is that when they spout one of the standard lies they’ve been fed (in this case that the Qur’an explicitly forbids the killing of women and children in war), they disappear when challenged to provide the verse number.

My unflattering opinion of Western converts is that they’re desperately searching for an anchor in life and have chosen it to be Islam. They reason that the best way to learn about it is to ask an Imam. What they don’t realize is that they’re going to get the white-washed version, and then they jump in with both feet without properly investigating it themselves. By then they’re too committed to back away. This all IMO.

Yep..."leaving the church was the best thing I ever did", from another thread.