Are LGBT people happier now than they were a hundred years ago?

[Piculet]

I've often wondered do white racist hate black babies? Or vice versa? Surely there's some babies on earth now who will grow up to be gay. So if someone hates gays do they hate those babies?

HOLY MACARONI!!!!

Please don't confuse hating an act with hating an individual.

but the whole world knows its a better place for gay people

It is better because the more freedom they have, the happier they are? But people in general have more freedom these days. Has any professional in the field of psychology claimed, people are, in general, happier now than they were a hundred years ago?

Just because you see an advertisement does NOT mean that you're forced to look at it.

That's false. You said see and then you said look.

I simply ignore them because they have no interest to me.

Or because you don't care about the wellbeing of the society you live in..

Except from your OP you clearly ARE blaming them.

I meant the example about the porn. It was an unrelated example of corruption and immorality.

You DO realize that the vast majority of porn out there is HETEROSEXUAL porn, right?

Any kind of porn is disgusting to me.

 

[King Phenomenon]

The reasoning behind the OP was the assumption that the Bible refers to the LGBT community in certain Old and New Testament scriptures.
This is a result of centuries of false teaching. It painted this community in a very bad light and resulted in the elevation of the Christian’s negative pride.

Therefore, to declare that it is ok to pass laws making the lgbt community a protected class, is to give moral evil the green light to open the floodgates.

The flood gates are wide open. I think the doors may have even fallen off. Take a look at the nuclear power around the world. I think our problems run a little bit deeper than Joe and Bill holding hands unfortunately

Oh see post 62 as well

 

[Piculet]

Self reported higher level of happiness, higher level of social participation, normalisation of the level of depression and suicide amongst homosexuals and bisexuals compared to heterosexuals.

Really? Did you have a link for all that or something?

 

[Piculet]

any more than it would be "logical" for a person to stop having sex with a person of another race simply because their society declares that to be a capital crime.

Pretty sure, in such a case a lot of people would disagree with you.

 

[Piculet]

Wouldn't you be happier if you couldn't have sex with the person you love without fear of being killed, and then that threat went away?

To be honest, I doubt it. What is more important is, would I be committing a sin?

 

[Piculet]

I am just trying to make you see this from the perspective of a gay person.

From the perspective of a homosexual non-Muslim.

 

[King Phenomenon]

Please don't confuse hating an act with hating an individual.

It is better because the more freedom they have, the happier they are? But people in general have more freedom these days. Has any professional in the field of psychology claimed, people are, in general, happier now than they were a hundred years ago?

That's false. You said see and then you said look.

Or because you don't care about the wellbeing of the society you live in..

I meant the example about the porn. It was an unrelated example of corruption and immorality.

Any kind of porn is disgusting to me.

If you were to say you hate the act for yourself then I could accept it but if you are saying that you hate the act for someone else then you are essentially saying you hate that individual.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Pretty sure, in such a case a lot of people would disagree with you.

A lot of people cower before unjust laws because they feel social or religious reprisal. That isn't logic, that's fear. Giving into a bully is in no way better than stopping the bully.

 

[Rival]

From the perspective of a homosexual non-Muslim.

There are gay Muslims.

Being a Muslim doesn't make sexual urges for people of the same sex magically go away.

 

[Piculet]

There are gay Muslims.

Being a Muslim doesn't make sexual urges for people of the same sex magically go away.

So I've heard, but my point is you're trying to get me to see the pov of a homosexual non-Muslim because there are good practicing Muslims who feel attracted to the same sex, but who do not let their desires corrupt themselves by acting on those desires.

 

[Piculet]

If you were to say you hate the act for yourself then I could except it but if you are saying that you hate the act for someone else then you are essentially saying you hate that individual.

No, that isn't logical.

 

[Rival]

So I've heard, but my point is you're trying to get me to see the pov of a homosexual non-Muslim because there are good practicing Muslims who feel attracted to the same sex, but who do not let their desires corrupt themselves by acting on those desires.

And they are likely miserable, fearful and some suicidal.

 

[QuestioningMind]

Please don't confuse hating an act with hating an individual.

It is better because the more freedom they have, the happier they are? But people in general have more freedom these days. Has any professional in the field of psychology claimed, people are, in general, happier now than they were a hundred years ago?

That's false. You said see and then you said look.

Or because you don't care about the wellbeing of the society you live in..

I meant the example about the porn. It was an unrelated example of corruption and immorality.

Any kind of porn is disgusting to me.

That's false. You said see and then you said look.

Yes, I said SEE and then I said LOOK. When you SEE that it's an ad for porn then you don't LOOK. Why is that so hard for you to grasp?

Or because you don't care about the wellbeing of the society you live in..

Because I choose not to look at ads that don't interest me that means I don't care about the well being of society? What bizarre reasoning. Is that why you feel like you're FORCED to look at porn ads every time you see one?

Any kind of porn is disgusting to me

That's fine... then don't look at it.

With all the corruption and immorality that has been spread for their sake

I'm still waiting to hear what you think corruption and immortality has been spread for the sake of LGBT people.

 

[Left Coast]

Pretty sure, in such a case a lot of people would disagree with you.

Really? A lot of people would agree that it would be more logical for societies to kill people for sleeping with people of a different race, and for people to therefore stop doing so, then for societies to...allow people of different races to sleep together?

Really?

Where in the world do you live?

 

[Left Coast]

To be honest, I doubt it. What is more important is, would I be committing a sin?

When a deity shows up to inform me what she thinks is a sin, I'll evaluate that commandment accordingly. Till then, it's pretty universal among us gays that we'd rather not be killed for our sex life.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I've often wondered do white racist hate black babies? Or vice versa? Surely there's some babies on earth now who will grow up to be gay. So if someone hates gays do they hate those babies?

HOLY MACARONI!!!!

They often don't (they're just a kid still and havent done any wrong yet). They often do (their skin color still makes them guilty).
Their world is more often not logical or consistent.

 

[King Phenomenon]

No, that isn't logical.

Well maybe you got me there because when somebody murders someone I don't hate that individual I hate the act and I do believe in forgiveness. But Bill and Joe holding hands I don't hate.

 

[ClimbingTheLadder]

With all the corruption and immorality that has been spread for their sake, apparently, you'd think they had gained some advantage. What is the advantage though? Are they better off now?

Yes

 

[epronovost]

Really? Did you have a link for all that or something?

Sure.

Suicide among LGBT youth - Wikipedia

Start with good old wikipedia.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Grow up.

Does anyone want to answer the question seriously? I don't suppose I need to say that I'm looking for reasoning. If you had it, you would probably have given it, but just in case — I'm waiting.

Which question? The completely loaded one in the OP? I addressed it from my point of view.
Do you have a reason to segregate a portion of society and apply specific rules controlling their behaviour?